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Old 10-08-2008, 05:12 PM
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Hollinger's player rating/ profile on Amir Johnson:

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2007-08 season: Remind me again why this guy didn't play more? Johnson shot 55.8 percent, had the second-best rate of blocks in basketball, ranked in the top third of centers in rebound rate, and lost his minutes in the postseason to Theo Ratliff. Really.

Sure, he's a bit raw. Johnson was mistake-prone, with 10 offensive fouls and six illegal defense violations in just 769 minutes, and he wasn't always in the right spots on D. But he was also devastatingly effective, ranking 14th among centers in PER. There is absolutely nothing in his track record to suggest this was a fluke either -- his numbers from his previous two D-League seasons and his scraps of NBA time have all been outstanding.

Scouting report: Johnson is listed at 6-9 because that was his height when he turned pro out of high school, but he now appears to be 6-11 or even seven feet. He has a thin frame and still needs to add muscle, and he has no perimeter game to speak of -- last year he was 5-for-26 on shots outside the immediate basket area.

However, he's a freak of an athlete. Johnson has made at least one crowd-wowing play every time I've seen him perform, whether it be a flying swat or a soaring follow dunk, and despite his slender frame he's a superb rebounder. Right now his biggest issue is his propensity for turnovers, but otherwise he appears to be one of the game's top big man prospects, a Marcus Camby in the making.

2008-09 outlook: Johnson unquestionably needs to play more, but it's hard to see how he'll crack a rotation that includes Antonio McDyess, Rasheed Wallace, Jason Maxiell, and Kwame Brown. OK, scratch that last part, but the first three guys will be difficult to displace. Somehow, the Pistons need to get this kid (he's still only 21) at least 20 minutes a night to let him develop, because game experience is probably his biggest need and he's shown he can run with the big boys.
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2007-08 season: Remind me again why this guy didn't play more? (Flip Saunders) Johnson shot 55.8 percent, had the second-best rate of blocks in basketball, ranked in the top third of centers in rebound rate, and lost his minutes in the postseason to Theo Ratliff. Really.

Sure, he's a bit raw. Johnson was mistake-prone, with 10 offensive fouls and six illegal defense violations in just 769 minutes, and he wasn't always in the right spots on D. But he was also devastatingly effective, ranking 14th among centers in PER. (...and #1 in Fouls!) There is absolutely nothing in his track record to suggest this was a fluke either -- his numbers from his previous two D-League seasons and his scraps of NBA time have all been outstanding.

Scouting report: Johnson is listed at 6-9 because that was his height when he turned pro out of high school, but he now appears to be 6-11 or even seven feet. (this article is WAY out of date. AJ is at least 7'4'' by now!) He has a thin frame and still needs to add muscle, and he has no perimeter game to speak of -- last year he was 5-for-26 on shots outside the immediate basket area.

However, he's a freak of an athlete. Johnson has made at least one crowd-wowing play every time I've seen him perform, whether it be a flying swat or a soaring follow dunk, and despite his slender frame he's a superb rebounder. Right now his biggest issue is his propensity for turnovers (actually, FOULS), but otherwise he appears to be one of the game's top big man prospects, a Marcus Camby in the making. (I'd LOVE it if he could ascend from the #9 spot to be the next Marcus Camby!)

2008-09 outlook: Johnson unquestionably needs to play more (should happen unless Joe decides to bring Flip back), but it's hard to see how he'll crack a rotation that includes Antonio McDyess, Rasheed Wallace, Jason Maxiell, and Kwame Brown (actually, I's AJ's job to lose). OK, scratch that last part (Giant Turd), but the first three guys will be difficult to displace. Somehow, the Pistons need to get this kid (he's still only 21) at least 20 minutes a night to let him develop, because game experience is probably his biggest need (I agree!) and he's shown he can run with the big boys.
It sounds like I rip on Amir a lot but I'm actually in his corner. I like the part about him developing in to the next Marcus Camby! - That would be RAD!
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If Amir is 7' then Sheed must be 7'3............
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If Amir is 7' then Sheed must be 7'3............
Then we should have kept Nazr...he must be about 7'6.
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Flip Saunders, February 28, 2008:

"You have to give Amir credit for keeping on fighting. He didn't give up on things even though Maxie was playing well, getting lots of accolades. Amir just kept on fighting through things, and when he got an opportunity, he's taken advantage of it."

Um, that's actually good to hear. When Amir plays, good things happen -- keep giving this guy some burn!

Flip Saunders, two days later, following a loss in Utah in which Amir didn't play:

“But we made a mistake — we should have played him. We got in a situation where they were making such a run, and we thought at that point it was too late. First thing I said afterwards was, ‘We should have played Amir, and we didn’t.’"

Considering you just admitted how well Amir has played, yeah, giving him a DNP was a head-scratcher. But at least you realize your mistake, right?

Flip Saunders in the same article:

“We have people who are saying, ‘Start Amir.’ But they don’t know that Antonio McDyess has been one of the leading rebounders in minutes played in the NBA over the last month. You can’t always look at superficial things.”
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I always found Flip to be illogical. His thoughts seemed scattered.
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Charlie V is listed at 6'11" and Amir is at least one if not two inches shorter than him. Either way he was definitely shorter than Villanueva.
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Re: Amir will start at PF

Why's it so quiet around here ... ?

Amir did everything I expected last night. He ran the floor well, made a few solid defensive plays, blew some defensive assignments ... pretty much what I expected.
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Why's it so quiet around here ... ?

Amir did everything I expected last night. He ran the floor well, made a few solid defensive plays, blew some defensive assignments ... pretty much what I expected.
It's impossible to comment on the things off the stat sheet when you only hear it on the radio.

I'm really starting to appreciate my low-def TV.
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Re: Amir will start at PF

Amir looked to me like a player that is trying to hard to make a play to solidify his position in the starting role. It is almost like he feels he needs to make every possible play which is putting him out of position and in a hurry. Almost like a puppy that has been staring out the window on the back door for months and finally gets let outside without a leash. He is running all over the place not sure what to do first.

I guess with his recent history he may feel that if he doesn't make a huge impact immediately he will be relegated back to the pine for another season. I think it is imperative for MC to reiterate to him that he needs to slow down and try not to be a "superstar" right away. He can excel with the first unit but he needs to play under more control.
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