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Old 01-02-2006, 04:43 PM
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Delfino or Evans... make your case

Sometimes we become influenced by the amount of times we hear things.
We hear how badly Evans is playing by his +/- for the game.
So there must be some validity to Delfino taking over his minutes.

Certainly Delfino is better at:
  • Shooting
  • Rebounding
  • setup man
  • turns it over less
  • FT's
Based on what evidence?

Well that doesn't take into account the +/- stats of Evans vs Delfino

Here's the proof

Ok but Evans plays more minutes... you have to take into account the 48 minutes stats (most overused useless stat)

48 minutes will prove it right?

So why do we keep hearing over and over that Evans can't hold Delfino's jock?... where is this proof?
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Very interesting glad your not as lazy as I'am. Thanks for the info on the team.
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Re: Delfino or Evans... make your case

I like both players. Evans for his offensive rebounding and 3-pt shooting and Delfino for his height and slashing ability.

Delfino has a better upside and Evans is the more polished player. Striking difference for me is in their heights. Evans is too short to play backup SF most nights.

I actually can see Delfino eventually taking most of the mins but for now Evans is the better choice in many circumstances.
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Re: Delfino or Evans... make your case

Or could it be neither of them is the answer?

Here's a recent quote from Joe to ESPN.

"Maybe adding one more guy off the bench, adding one more piece to the bench that would have impact," he told ESPN.com.
The boss says: "Obviously we're happy with the record, but we're pushing our guys as hard as ever because you want to fight any complacency whatsoever. For us, it's not so much about the record. It's about playing for the playoffs."
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Or could it be neither of them is the answer?

Here's a recent quote from Joe to ESPN.

"Maybe adding one more guy off the bench, adding one more piece to the bench that would have impact," he told ESPN.com.
The boss says: "Obviously we're happy with the record, but we're pushing our guys as hard as ever because you want to fight any complacency whatsoever. For us, it's not so much about the record. It's about playing for the playoffs."
Could he have been referring to getting a 4th big that the coach would actually play?
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Re: Delfino or Evans... make your case

I like Delfino, but I am not seeing much more from him than we saw prior to his knee injury. He's got skills. We know he can play ball from his Euroleague experience. He's not a conventional rookie. Adapating to the N-A game perhaps, but something is missing...

Mo is a scrub. He's a young Darvin Ham with range. I was excited about him, but he's really looked like a rookie in sets on either end of the floor. Hustle can only make up for so much when you don't command rebounding position, lack good handles and cannot create your own shot. He's really not that much of an upgrade over Dupree.

I'm not sure either is the answer. I'd like to think that Joe is cooking something up.

Here is a curveball. How much of our poor bench play outside of Arroyo and Dice can be attributed to the fact that our starting five is simply too comfortable with one another? It's like Larry forged this elite unit of guys that are amazing as a whole, but don't integrate well with others. Just throwing it out there for discussion.

I know it sounds a little simple, but man would I like to see what JMax has got. There is no reason in my mind to think that he can't have a "Prince-like" impact in his rookie year.

And one more...

Is this chase for the best regular season record compromising our development of a deeper roster? I'm not talking about Darko, but specifically Evans and Delfino, two guys who should be seeing regular and consistent minutes as the primary backups for Tay and Rip.
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Re: Delfino or Evans... make your case

Funny stuff. As most of the league knows by now, Delfino is just a step above milicic. That would mean he gets the garbage time and milicic gets the pine time. Evans can at least play.
The title of this thread could be Delfino or milicic:state your case!
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Funny stuff. As most of the league knows by now, Delfino is just a step above milicic. That would mean he gets the garbage time and milicic gets the pine time. Evans can at least play.
The title of this thread could be Delfino or milicic:state your case!
Ski, you are such an instigator.
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Ski, you are such an instigator.
Everything I've seen from Delfino indicates it. No instigation intended, I stand by my post.
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I like Delfino, but I am not seeing much more from him than we saw prior to his knee injury. He's got skills. We know he can play ball from his Euroleague experience. He's not a conventional rookie. Adapating to the N-A game perhaps, but something is missing...

Mo is a scrub. He's a young Darvin Ham with range. I was excited about him, but he's really looked like a rookie in sets on either end of the floor. Hustle can only make up for so much when you don't command rebounding position, lack good handles and cannot create your own shot. He's really not that much of an upgrade over Dupree.

I'm not sure either is the answer. I'd like to think that Joe is cooking something up.

Here is a curveball. How much of our poor bench play outside of Arroyo and Dice can be attributed to the fact that our starting five is simply too comfortable with one another? It's like Larry forged this elite unit of guys that are amazing as a whole, but don't integrate well with others. Just throwing it out there for discussion.

I know it sounds a little simple, but man would I like to see what JMax has got. There is no reason in my mind to think that he can't have a "Prince-like" impact in his rookie year.

And one more...

Is this chase for the best regular season record compromising our development of a deeper roster? I'm not talking about Darko, but specifically Evans and Delfino, two guys who should be seeing regular and consistent minutes as the primary backups for Tay and Rip.
About your curveball not far off the only one that really fits in outside of the 5 is the sixth starter Dice.Not saying others don't come in and do good but the 5 as a whole play much better with themselves.We talked about this before the 5 are so good when they push to be.With homecourt do we take it last year?Is that the thinking this year without injury and with homecourt do we take it with a short bench relying heavily on the 5.They are focusing really badly on homecourt to overlook them thinking they can do it with little bench play except with Shaq foul rules.

I'm not saying I wouldn't like more development from the bench I think it's insurance.But we know how confident this group thinks they are and except for a 4th quarter stretch in game 7 we did make a hell of a run without homecourt advantage.Not many thought we'd take Miami or San An to 7 in either series.

As far as this threads main topic everyone said Flip coming in he liked to play the mismatches that he never really had a set rotation it could change at anytime depending on what the other team's weakness was.Is he trying to see what he can do with Del and Evans what and who they are good against?Unless we make a move run Arroyo,Dice,Del and Evans off bench for playoffs?They both depending on what you need have good games.How much longer and how deep are we gonna experiment if at all?Homecourt throughout isn't in the bag yet.
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