Dyess does not get Ben's numbers. Ben did a lot more than rebound. He was among the league leaders in both blocks and steals as well. Ben put fear into the hearts of anyone even thinking about driving the lane on us. Dyess sends out invitations with flowers, and everyone drops in, as invited and has a great time.

Given that we are second in points allowed and 3rd in defensive FG percentage it must be entirely due to Sheed and Prince, because we know it ain't primarily due to our guards and now we know that Dyess has nothing to do with it.

Based on this we can expect to see both Prince and Sheed make NBA all-defense 1st team this year. Thanks for the heads up, I can't wait to see Sheed's interview when he gets the award.

I'm pretty sure Chauncey has the best defensive #'s on the team with Dyess in 2nd place by a very narrow margin.

If Dyess got a little more respect from the refs, he'd truly be a defensive force.

You could be correct on C-Bill. I haven't checked the numbers, but I do know that he gets beat an awful lot on penetration plays but that may be by design of the defense, expecting one of the bigs to rotate over to stop the penetration.

We do defend the 3-point line very well, so that could be the case. Overplay the shooters and let our mobile bigs clean up the drives.

First off it's obvious that we were a better team with a 29 year old Ben Wallace. The things Ben used to do for us were extrordinary. I don't want to knock Ben, but I'm sick and tired for the lack of appreciation that some folk around here have for Antonio McDyess. The guy is a very consistent shooter (FG%= 49%), he battles inside, he gives 100% everynight, and BTW as of late he's been grabbing about 12 rebs/game. Go look at the NBA stats and see who else in the league is snagging 12 boards these days and see if they're also getting 8.4ppg on 49% FG shooting, AS THE 5TH OPTION!!!!!!!

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The best thing about the 29 year old Wallace, besides his enormous impact on the game, was that we weren't paying him anything close to his market value. We had a great deal.

The Bulls, well, they have the opposite situation going on. The one thing that they did right is that they made his contract reduce over time. Maybe it will be possible to unload it next year.

Depends on which Ben we are talking about. The guy from 4 years ago who lead the league in blocks and rebounds? Then yes I would agree. Dyess for Ben right now? Would anyone make that deal?

Yes it was a great game. I don't think teams know what to do with or expect from Stucky and Amir quit yet. In Laker game they were probably wondering who Amir Johnson was. Nice to see Maxiel with his hops back.

Dyss is a good player and has a role on this team. I like him in certain situations later in the game when defenses get tired. He can pop the jumper as he spreads the floor.

But he is not a center. Playing him at center creates a series of potential match up problems for us. In a long series, say against the Cavs, Dyss cannot match Z and he is not mobile enough to even bother Le Bron on the drive. Sheed, who is already overworked, has to take on a bigger role. Sheed may also get in foul trouble as a result.

If Dyss is scoring and spreading the opposition defense, his contribution can overcome defensive liabilities. But, if he cannot score, we would be better off with a big body in the middle getting major minutes. Anyway,I question how well Dyss would hold up in a long series as our primary center. I also question having Dyss in the last few minutes of a game--I prefer Maxiel for defense, a real big (that we don't have on the roster) or even the young Amir who will move to the driver.

Yes, Dyss rebounds but so would Amir. And I don't think Amir can handle the big centers which is why I am hoping Joe makes a move. Maxiel is short but plays big. Taken together, Maxiel and Dyss, we are undersized. This all leaves a lot for Sheed to do. Sheed is our only true big as Amir is still very young. That is worrisome for a playoffs situation where we can get worn down.

As far as Ben, I don't think he gets his due in the Piston nation. Ben made the Pistons early on when the team started to get good. He could create havoc as a one-man defensive roaming menace. He was incredible in his prime...

I totally agree. Ben was incredible, and a big, big part of the Pistons success. Contracts and money aside, having Ben and Rasheed Wallace was the Real twin towers.

I don't know how the Pistons could do it, but I would like to see them pick up Jeff Foster from the Pacers. That guy can grab a ton of rebounds against big centers, and step in when Dice can't get it done.