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Abe, we played SA last year virtually refusing to take the open look or go after cheap baskets. Now we ...

 
 
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Old 01-13-2006, 02:17 AM
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

Abe, we played SA last year virtually refusing to take the open look or go after cheap baskets. Now we play like every other team in this era of offense and guess what: our offense is near championship level. And you saw what our defense can do. If we score, it is very hard for even Miami or SA to beat us. In fact, Miami has played us tougher than SA. We dismantled them in the first quarter. Pretty impressive Piston team. Flip for coach of the year.
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Old 01-13-2006, 02:34 AM
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

Everyone complains about the bench, but let me ask a question? Do SA big men get rest because Pop loves his bench, or that he has a scrub named Nesterovic STARTING thus the bench is no worse. When you have 5 great players you play them. Iverson has always played 40 a night, so has Kobe, Garnett, Jordan etc etc. I don't want to discredit the bench guys, a minute more here or there for the starters doesn't cause that much extra fatigue.
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Old 01-13-2006, 08:34 AM
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

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I mentioned in chat that Doug Collins said something ive been saying for awhile (and I am paraphrasing here so don’t jump down my throaght if it is not word for word)
Chauncey came down and nailed a jumper on the break and Collins says" that is something the pistons are trying to do this year get off quicker shots because their is no sense banging for 82 games it is long season and it puts a lot of strain on your body to play that kind of basketball"

Now it could just be me but it is not this guy coached mj grant hill in his prime and other all-star players. His point and mine is if we can win games without standing toe to toe punch for punch with other teams then why should we. We can win games with our execution and with shots not just with our brawn. The pistons may not play the same game that many of you guys fell in love with but they are still winning games. Yes the truest of tests will come in the post season but this team is doing it the easy way right now.

I don’t agree with everything flip has done so far but I cant argue with wins right now flip has him team playing record breaking basketball for the franchise best start ever by a pistons team so yes we can sit here and nit pick about how much burn the bench is getting but how do you discredit the results.
Amen! and its not like they have forgotten how to play DETROIT BAAAAASKETBALL, they are just not having to do it every night for 48 mins... some nights they don't have to do it at all. I think though if you ask SA they would say we showed the defense we know how to play for 48 mins TWICE now. Our starters are playing a tad less minutes and you would think that as the season goes on the bench will get more burn, but the minutes they are getting are not as hard as minutes as they had to have last year to win.
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Old 01-13-2006, 08:38 AM
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

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Here's a summary of the last Pistons-Spurs game by Kevin Pelton, who predicts a Spurs victory in the rematch.

http://www.82games.com/pelton12.htm
The guy takes the reader through an microscopic statistical analysis of each team and its players, then in the end his three reasons for a San Antonio victory are basically from gut feel.

Unbelievable
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There's obviously a substantial drop off in our starters & the bench...
BBall, what are you complaining about Evans vs Delfino for... seriously.... was either a significant factor tonight or during the year for that matter... there's not a big difference in performance from either... just different skills (or lack of)
i think there is a big difference in performance but it isn't so evident with delfino getting limited minutes. delfino is a better defender right now. delfino is a better ball handler. delfino can create his own shot. delfino creates shots for other players. evans is just a better offensive rebounder.
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What this showed me is that we are not sunk without Arroyo... probably better defensively without him.
i don't think we are sunk without any of the pistons except chauncey.

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Oh yeah, Sheed critics (BBall & Jacktagg)... the ball told the truth in a big game.
yeah. sheed proved my point last night. he doesn't bring it every game. i know sheed is a great player but he has the talent to play like that every night. the only thing i get on sheed about it rebounding and not giving effort every night. these are things i don't have a problem with. the only reason i ever mention them is when someone dogs darko out for doing the same thing. i like sheed as a player.

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hah!! i called it in chat last night, lee found a way to blame the pistons 1-for-12 shooting to start the 4th quarter on evans. amazing. i'm not even sure why i read his game recaps anymore, as it is clear he is not watching the same game i am. in fact, lee recaps practically write themselves - i'll write saturday's lee recap before the game even takes place and then we'll compare after the game.

the story of the game is NOT evans, and since the game was practically the same as xmas, the game isn't the story either. the story was that we didn't need arroyo at all to pull out the road victory in SA. the tay/rip/delfino backcourt is a nifty idea, particularly against SA of whom we have a significant height advantage over...but that's not something we want to necessarily rely on.

but it does bring up the interesting question, that if lindsey comes back and adjusts just fine to the new offense, do we even need arroyo?

you know who i would really like to have as a backup point, is eric snow. after watching the cavs/lakers last night, he's a very smart player and an excellent defender.
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Cool Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

Last nights game was a feel good win but it goes away Saturday when the Pistons have to take care of Business and beat the Bobcats. I had picked Detroit to lose last nights game in San Ann, but I was thinking after they had lost to Utah last Saturday that Detroit had to win this game. The Pistons showed that this season is theirs to win and that they saw a team they know they have to beat to get back the trophy. January should be the month where the Pistons should take care of business and put more room between them and the rest of the leasgue.

January has two tough road games, and two trap games. THe two tough road games are Minny and New Jersey and these are not tough because the teams are real good its because the Pistons have a hard time playing games in these arenas. The fact that the Pistons spanked New Jersey earlier in the season will make that game tough and the Target Center never has been kind to Detroit. The two trap games this month(actually when I think about it there is 3 trap games) are Knicks, and the Bucks. I think Boston on Monday is a trap game also because Boston will fight hard not to get swept for the season in an afternoon game. These are trap games because these are 2nd games of a back to back nights. If you look at all of the Pistons loses they were energy games three of of them were back to backs. The Pistons can win the rest of their games this month if they come focus but look for another 13-2 finish for January. GO PISTONS GREAT WIN LAST NIGHT!!!!!!
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Old 01-13-2006, 11:36 AM
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

Motown's 10 point run
  1. Sheed takes charge ~ Rahseed set the tone of the game early showcasing his inside and outside game as well as proving why the Pistons frontline is so formidable defensively. Tim Duncan did not look comfortable on offense for practically the entire game. Tim's (and the entire Spurs's team) troubles at the line made it difficult for the Spurs to make any substantial run.
  2. Efficient Offense ~ Another big story of the game was ball movement. This is perhaps where we have visibly improved the most this year. Lots of open shots on offense. In contrast, Tony Parker finished with a dismal O assists for the night. The only negative marks on offense for us this game were Chauncey's bad shot selection, 4-14 from the field (some were down right ugly!) and Chauncey's poor decision making (6 uncharacteristic horrific turnovers). Most nights when Chauncey struggles this badly with his decision making we struggle, but C-Note still managed double digit assists and the rest of our starters had very solid games.
  3. No Carlos, No Problem ~ One of the subplots of the game was the absence of Chauncey's backup, Carlos Arroyo, due to Los's untimely suspension early this week. How did the Stones compensate? Quite well. We saw Tay take over some of the point guard responsibilites. Wow! Shades of the classic Orlando series. The end result was a big lineup that created severe matchup problems for our opposition. I wouldn't be suprised if Flip took advantage of this stragey again in the future as a nice change of pace. On defense, we saw Rip and Chauncey take turns on Parker to keep Chauncey out of foul trouble. Another smart move by the Flipster.
  4. Classic Going To Work Defense ~ The Pistons showed they can still play championship caliber team defense for 48 mins when they want to. Probably our best defensive showing to date. Detroit did an excellent job controlling dribble penetration and eliminating second chance opportunities all night. Although Detroit was not getting the whistle this game, they still played agressively and prevented the Spurs from getting into any type of offensive flow. Impressive, considering that the Spurs are a team that can normally score points with ease when they need to. Two games holding our best opposition for the crown down to 70 points is awesome and gives us a definite mental edge should we meet again during the playoffs.
  5. Rip shakes off Bowen ~ Lee hit it on the head with his analysis regarding Rip's play tonight against Bowen. Flip's offense appears to be one or two screens too many for the defensive specialist to handle. 22 fairly easy points by Rip tonight.
  6. Free Agent Hype ~ The Spurs' free agent acquistions, Finley and Van Excel, had virtually no impact on this game. A combined 3-11 from the field.
  7. Maybe next time ~ Looks like Acker had his mom set up the VCR for no reason tonight. Although the Pistons were winning by a large margin on numerous occasions, it still did not translate to an Acker appearance. This was perhaps his best opportunity to get some clock this season as Arroyo is only out for a game. Oh well, he's a gym rat so I'm sure his opportunity to step on the court will eventually arrive. I like this kid. Great attitude.
  8. Oh, my ankles ~ Rip..Rip...Rip. I'm surprised you can still walk. Tony Parker put a move on Rip that turned his legs into noodles and sent him to the floor. You know you got shook when the entire arena goes, "WOOOOAAAAAHHH". That's okay bro. You walk away with the win.
  9. Undisputed #1 ~ This last convincing victory makes it apparently obvious to even the staunchish critic that our Pistons are the team to beat this year. It will be interesting to see how the rest of the league adjusts to our style of play in the second half of the season. Hmmm....How much longer until talks of 70 wins begin to resurface?
  10. Lee's Evans obsession ~ Evans was hardly the story of this game. I have never seen so much biased criticism focused toward a player in my life. In my opinion, Delfino clearly outperforms Evans every night...but that does not mean that Evans is the source of every scoring drought or defensive lapse. Give it a rest dude.
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

Good work Motown...I'll add some others..

Manu slams his hand on the scorers table...this seemed to be a real crowd and announcer pleaser.

Chauncey draws blood but can't draw a foul...it would seem that 'blood don't lie' but in this case even a gash on Chauncey's head didn't get a call.

Manu??......Tony??....give these two credit for keepin the Spurs in the game.

The swagger...Pistons have it and the Spurs don't.
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

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hey brother hq i LUV the new avatar but i want to point out your link does not work
YEAH.....it was a pic of me and Rockets cheerleaders...didnt work though.....how da bear get there? I still like it...LOL
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