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Originally Posted by lapiston Abe, we played SA last year virtually refusing to take the open look or go after ...

 
 
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

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Abe, we played SA last year virtually refusing to take the open look or go after cheap baskets. Now we play like every other team in this era of offense and guess what: our offense is near championship level. And you saw what our defense can do. If we score, it is very hard for even Miami or SA to beat us. In fact, Miami has played us tougher than SA. We dismantled them in the first quarter. Pretty impressive Piston team. Flip for coach of the year.
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Old 01-13-2006, 04:14 PM
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

Kpaav, I will look for your analysis on the extra screen on the tape. If we can indeed get Rip open consistently against SA, then much of our offensive problems with them in the past will go away. To me the key over last year is that they don't know where we will go on offense. Last year, we obliged them by trying to pound it down low. That defense is geared for that. Now,they can not focus in on what we will do. We ran the break and took the open look. We passed. We let Sheed have so many touches. Their bigs are not that mobile. They don't want to stray from the basket as it messes up their defensive sheme. Sheed drifting out puts a big strain on that defense. We played Detroit baskeball defensively last night. But it wasn't enough last year without the offense. Our offense is getting good, really good. We have always had the players just not a superstar. But look at our range with Billips and Sheed and even Rip. The bench wasn't the story at all. The first quarter was. We absolutely dominated them. I was stunned. What a great time to be a Piston fan.
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

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Lee's Evans obsession ~ Evans was hardly the story of this game. I have never seen so much biased criticism focused toward a player in my life. In my opinion, Delfino clearly outperforms Evans every night...but that does not mean that Evans is the source of every scoring drought or defensive lapse. Give it a rest dude.
That's the problem, he's clearly being outplayed, but keeps his minutes. In the scheme of things does it affect the pistons season? No. Does it cost us any games? Maybe a loss or 2. Are us Evans haters overreacting, probably. But it is frustrating to watching, kinda like nails on the black board.
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

I don't really mind evans' play. He has high energy and keeps a lot of balls alive on the offensive boards.

He would be best in a fast breaking game.

Delfino is not really lighting the world on fire when he is in there either.
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Old 01-13-2006, 06:31 PM
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Re: Detroit at San Antonio - Jan 12th, 2006

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Delfino is not really lighting the world on fire when he is in there either.
he has not been in enough to find a rythem. here is a qoute from chauncey in todays detnews

"I personally wanted to get Rasheed going early," said Chauncey Billups, who had 14 assists. "When our big guys get going and they are scoring in the paint, we are difficult to play."
Wallace hit 12 of 20 shots, mostly playing in the paint. He made 3 of 5 three-pointers.
"He is one of the great ones," Billups said. "The great ones make it easier for everybody else. When he's rolling, everybody gets easy shots. They are set to stop me and Rip (Richard Hamilton). When Rasheed gets going, they have to shift their whole focus."

when is the last time someone got delfino "going" to me imo it seems as if they will try and get dyess involved in the flow but the rest of the guys have to "create for themselves" or just make hustle plays to get the ball. if you want better production from your bench try running plays for guys so they can get "going"
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[Rasheed's] jump from last year to this year on 3's is real simple. Last year, he was given a guilt trip every time he shot one.
Well put.
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Great quote

Maybe Acker can become a mini-Sheed:

"I got the feeling I would dress as soon as I saw Carlos (Arroyo ) head butt the ref," Acker said. "I knew it was just a matter of time."
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Old 01-13-2006, 09:51 PM
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review of game

In my opinion, Ginobili intentionally struck Rip across the face. He did swipe at the ball, but it seemed to me he then changed directions in his down swing to catch Rip real hard. This kind of goes along with Horry flat out throwing Rip onto the floor. SA fans out there, please let the SA team know this type of dirty play degrades your team and the sport of basketball. Clean up your act.

Concerning Evans play in the 2nd half. We did get an assist out of a time out, when Evans first came into the game. And we got an assist immediately out of the end of quarter break. But other than that, we did not even smell an assist while Evans was in the game. We only scored one time in the first 6 minutes of the 4th quarter, and that was again, rigth out of the end of quarter break. This is not to slam Evans. Detroit was using that time to try to get Evans involved in our offense. Maybe he is a slow learner. Whatever, but that was what was going on. In the first half, we managed to get assists while Evans was in the game, by completely leaving Evans out of the plays.

Probably the most impressive play of the game was when Tay got the rebound, dribbled all the way down, thru traffic, and layed it in using all that length. I guess the 12 rebounds was a career high for Tay.

Delfino was fouled by Duncan on that drive. It looked clean around the ball, but Duncan shoved Delfino in his side or that would have been two points for us, and a spectacular play by Delfino. Instead, we got yet another blown call by the officials and Flip took Delfino out of the game after that.

That 2 from the corner off the feed from Dyess after an offensive rebound was a high archer. Looked good. Delfino's one longer range try missed well long. It was from a foot or two inside the line. Note, thats one shot such shot for the game, about all Delfino ever gets. Sure would like to see him get a chance to heat up in a game.

In one sequence, it seemed we got about 5 offensive rebounds. But could not score. Evans got one of those. I guess my question is, what good is getting the rebound if you can't score. Well, if you are way up in the score, it certainly kills a lot of clock. That fourth quarter started with both Evans and Ben Wallace on the floor. Maybe this is a bad combo. One guy who can't handle the ball, and so you would not want to pass to. And one guy who can't shoot the ball, Ben, who again, you really don't want to pass the ball to. Kind of limits the options in an offensive set.

No, I did not count Rip's picks. Probably next time thru. One of Sheed's threes was from a few feet back of the line.

CB did take a lot of shots. Shots he can make, but yes, a little forced too. Here is what I got to say about that. Same as always pretty much. CB is a scorer. To some extent, a shooter. Shooters shoot. It is what keeps their shot healthy. Someday, some defense is going to really tighten up on us, and Billups is going to have take those very same shots. So keep on shooting CB. As long as it is within reason, keep on honing that great weopon you have, your outside shot. All shooters have bad games. But they keep on shooting. Maybe you say Billups is not that great a shooter, and so this does not apply to him. But who is to say Billups can't become that kind of great shooter if he keeps practicing to become one.
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Old 01-13-2006, 10:02 PM
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Evans in this game

In my review of the game, I did not look at Evans defense too closely. Still no sign though that he is capable of guarding anyone adequately. We had him in there against Parker, VanExcel, and Ginobili as they were going small, and Evans for sure can't guard any if them.

As Evans again took no threes, it has been about 6 games now since he made a three.

Early on in the season, we were all quite intrigued by Evans. He was nailing triples, getting some steals, offensive rebounds. And he had a rep as a good defender.

Since then, the triples have seemingly dried up. The defense turned out to be hype. Steals? Mostly from someone else knocking the ball away and Evans picking the ball up. Very few knock-a-ways by Evans himself. And meanwhile, we have fully realized that Evans is absolutely not a guard, as he has precious little ball handling skill.

Whats left is offensive rebounding, and that is the only thing we saw good from Evans in this game. I would welcome anyone else's comments on what they saw from Evans in this game. Specifically, what agreement or disagreement about his defense, ball handling and shots (did he pass up some he should have taken-did he get in position-was the other team guarding him-any observations from this game.

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Re: review of game

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In my opinion, Ginobili intentionally struck Rip across the face. He did swipe at the ball, but it seemed to me he then changed directions in his down swing to catch Rip real hard. This kind of goes along with Horry flat out throwing Rip onto the floor. SA fans out there, please let the SA team know this type of dirty play degrades your team and the sport of basketball. Clean up your act.
And this is different from what Laimbeer and Mahorn did how?

I know folks don't like Ginobili. He's like Sheed, Claude Lemieux, Rodney Harrison. You hate him if you play him, you love him if he is on your team.

I don't mind the Spurs roughing up the Pistons as long as no one gets hurt. What I don't like is that no one plants Tony Parker on his keister when he drives the lane.

Sorry, but as a Badboys era fan, it would be entirely hypocritical of me to condemn Ginobili for fighting when his team had given up, and playing physical/hard/dirty. Nothing he did was worthy of a flagrant foul.

Personally, I'd love to see Manu and his flopping, crazy passing, big play-making in a Detroit uniform.
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