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Originally Posted by themicrowave the only folks worrying about earning minutes are DMC fans. Evans was +5 until Arroyo came ...

 
 
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:08 AM
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the only folks worrying about earning minutes are DMC fans. Evans was +5 until Arroyo came in and stagnated the offense.
I think the reason for that is that DMC seems to be the only one who HAS to earn his minutes and loses them so easily.

I think we need to get used to having discarded Pistons coming back and playing well against us. Soon, we can add DMC to that list .
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:15 AM
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I think the reason for that is that DMC seems to be the only one who HAS to earn his minutes and loses them so easily.

I think we need to get used to having discarded Pistons coming back and playing well against us. Soon, we can add DMC to that list .
'berbs, DMC is de-activated for all intensive purposes right now.

When Darko comes back and plays well against Ben and Sheed, we will have finally arrived in Bizarro world.
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:31 AM
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'berbs, DMC is de-activated for all intensive purposes right now.

When Darko comes back and plays well against Ben and Sheed, we will have finally arrived in Bizarro world.
Micro, is this the official word coming out of team sources (it seems like it is) or has there been some announcement or what? I have been holding a little hope that after the rest are assimilated into the system, we might spend some time in the second half getting DMC involved.

I just cannot see Davis as a Shaq stopper. And I cannot see the Pistons thinking about a trade of DMC without showcasing him.

No hope?

Sorry if this is the wrong thread but I am just answering your post.
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:47 AM
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ohh please, don't blame Flip for every freaking loss on the schedule. Hindsight is 20/20. You can't predict that we are going to go on a huge drought after going on an offensive tear in the first quarter. And you say that Flip should have kept the bench in longer in the 2nd quarter, but the fact is that the bench was in when our 14 point lead dropped to about 2 points. Arroyo is not capable of running the offense, and he brings down the entire team with him. It's not Flip's fault that Arroyo HAS to play at least SOME time (unless you want Chauncey play 48 minutes, or 53 in this case). You know Flip sees it because he has made a habit of playing Chauncey they entire 2nd half. And frankly, I don't blame him. If he puts in Arroyo and we blow the lead he gets blamed for it anyways, so he has to take the chance on keeping Chauncey in.

Flip also didn't force Sheed to get absolutely dominated on the boards by Memo. The offensive glass was where this game ended. That's an effort thing from the entire team.
That scoring drought was Evans not knowing how to play the game, and Flip trying his best to change that. He tried to get Evans involved in the ball handling, and all it did was use up clock, giving us bad shots. No way was that Arroyo's decision. It was the coach putting in plays involving Evans.

We lost 4 points of our lead with Evans in. But worse, we went from the ball flying all over the place, and players moving well without the ball, to no offensive flow at all with Evans in. Evans killed a good thing.

Coach took Evans out, and Arroyo, Delfino, and Dyess then held their own for a few minutes. The lead did not change while these three played without Evans. And the offense was clicking just fine too. Why coach took Delfino out at that point I just don't know. Why mess with a bench that is working for you.

After Delfino went out, the lead went back up to 9. Six minutes to go in the 2nd quarter, and we had a nine point lead. Which means that from the time Evans came in, with us having an 11 point lead, until that point, we had lost 2 points from the play of the bench.

At that time, Kirilenko made a couple of outstanding long range shots. In a minute, one stinking minute, the lead dropped from 9 to 2. So basically, by your argument above, about losing the lead, you can't say the bench did bad at all except for that one minute of play.

And that one minute my friend, had nothing to do with Arroyo's play. Arroyo does not guard Kirilenko last I checked, and Arroyo did absolutely nothing wrong during that one minute.
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Re: Get used to it

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'berbs, DMC is de-activated for all intensive purposes right now.

When Darko comes back and plays well against Ben and Sheed, we will have finally arrived in Bizarro world.
yes. darko does seem to be in the doghouse. i've gotten to the point where i want him to get traded just to show people that hated on him all these years what they missed. i cheered for memo last night as he rebounded and hit a big 3 on us. but hey everybody is happy memo is gone right. he couldn't earn minutes behind sheed.

anyway darko has nothing to do with evans. he comes in and messes up on the regular and should not be getting minutes over delfino. delfino is coming along nicely he's progressing. why do you try to justify evans getting minutes over delfino by taking a shot at darko??? darko earning minutes is just a way of saying we aren't going to play the guy over 3 former all stars.

seems like bizarro world will be here in about 3 years. ben and sheed will be aging. darko will be just flirting with all star status on another team. we will be entering another teal era.
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Old 01-08-2006, 01:11 PM
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how about we use dale davis. the pistons lose to all these bad teams because most of them for some reason are very big. we get outrebounded because the opponent keeps grabbing a fistful of ben's jersey, and they get away with it. dale davis can help us in the paint. darko gives us shotblocking, but not boards. spurs lost to suns so pistons are still 1.5 games ahead.
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Old 01-08-2006, 01:37 PM
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let's go on to oklahoma. pistons have to win chris paul will be out.
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yes. darko does seem to be in the doghouse. i've gotten to the point where i want him to get traded just to show people that hated on him all these years what they missed. i cheered for memo last night as he rebounded and hit a big 3 on us. but hey everybody is happy memo is gone right. he couldn't earn minutes behind sheed.
Sure you do/did. You're a fan of the players, not the team. You'll be cheering for Darko when he beats the Pistons (hahahaha) one day, because you put the player before the jersey. Which is fine and dandy, so long as we're honest about what your motivations are.

Which is really regretful because I have seen you post insightful things on the game, you just seemed doomed to forever be running in circles obsessing over each player who might get away.

It's too bad you don't trust Joe. Because for as much as I criticize him, he's made many great moves and has a solid plan for the future. Memo may have big nights in Utah, but we weren't winning a title without Sheed. So now Memo can collect his big money and play for a .500 squad. Maybe Darko can text message him from the Finals...
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There's nothing wrong with being a fan of the player:re: Rodney White or Cheeser or Memo. But it is team first. "Don't ever go against the Family, ever". And don't be all over the place.
Still we are supposed to buy LBs power play for Sheed. [he wanted more D] But what about JDs hand picked players? Don't F with JDs plan! Memo was a big piece that LB couldn't handle. Last nite he gets 17 boards---WTF!!! Was this a Unibrow lovefest?
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Re: Get used to it

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yes. darko does seem to be in the doghouse. i've gotten to the point where i want him to get traded just to show people that hated on him all these years what they missed. i cheered for memo last night as he rebounded and hit a big 3 on us. but hey everybody is happy memo is gone right. he couldn't earn minutes behind sheed.
It's sad, but Micro does have a point. Anytime you are cheering for the opposition to score against us and they're not even a friend/family member...you've taken it a little far. It appears that your loyalty is a bit misdirected.
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