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It started when he got some real full-contact practice time with the team. It's like Flip was keeping it simple at first, running pick and rolls, etc, and Stuckey was clicking right away. Then Stuckey got in a practice, and Flip started implementing his playbook. Now all he does is dribble the ball up the court and pass around the perimeter looking for an iso, or some idiotic high-post flex offense garbage. He only gets to his strength (breaking down the D off the dribble) in late clock situations.

I could write a book on what I don't like about Flip Saunders as a coach.
So So So true. Stuckey is thinking way to hard out there. Why wont Flip let the kid just play the drive and kick game. Put AJ on a high screen and roll and when the defense adjusts to AJ hit Max on the low post, swing the ball weakside to Hayes or AA, it ain't that deep.
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Re: At NewYork Jan 13 7PM

I had this great idea last night that I would chart each possession based on how many seconds there were on the shot clock when the Pistons got the ball across half court. Unforunately they didn't make enough shots to measure anything.

Stuckey does get the ball up faster than CB, by nearly two seconds, especially after CB has been on the floor for more than eight minutes. At least this game.

I'm already well on my way to forgetting this stinker.
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Re: At NewYork Jan 13 7PM

cats with their usual overreaction. The Knicks/Hawks/Sonics/Wolves will beat good teams 4 times a year. Could be anyone. Just happened to be us this time. Although I would like a change, it isn't based on one darn game.

I find the team to be too settled in--always believing they can get out of any situation and not trying terribly hard because they're so 'cool' - so in that regard, I've wanted a change for some time now. But we might win the east by default because Boston's the only good team to play.
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So So So true. Stuckey is thinking way to hard out there. Why wont Flip let the kid just play the drive and kick game. Put AJ on a high screen and roll and when the defense adjusts to AJ hit Max on the low post, swing the ball weakside to Hayes or AA, it ain't that deep.
I would LOVE to see Stuck, and Amir in the high screen and roll.

AA has shown a knack of being a great penetrator as well. Hopefully, Flip doesn't jump shot him to death. I've already noticed Stuckey taking more.
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I would LOVE to see Stuck, and Amir in the high screen and roll.

AA has shown a knack of being a great penetrator as well. Hopefully, Flip doesn't jump shot him to death. I've already noticed Stuckey taking more.
Stuckey and J-Max ran pick-and-roll very well in the first games after Stuckey came back from injury with a pretty high success rate. J-Max either dunked or went to the line. Where did that whole thing go? Flip seems to hate pick-and-roll chosing to do pick-and-pop instead. Jump shots all the way, baby.
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Where did that whole thing go? Flip seems to hate pick-and-roll chosing to do pick-and-pop instead. Jump shots all the way, baby.
When I played, I specialized in the wide open 3 point shot, the free throw and the post entry bounce pass. I was also good at running backwards.
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When I played, I specialized in the wide open 3 point shot................. I was also good at running backwards.
One would have to be when you only shoot .1000 from beyond the arc....BRICK CITY BABY!!!!!
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I would LOVE to see Stuck, and Amir in the high screen and roll.

AA has shown a knack of being a great penetrator as well. Hopefully, Flip doesn't jump shot him to death. I've already noticed Stuckey taking more.
I love watching AJ with Stuckey and AA on a fast break.

AJ blocks the shot. Stuckey grabs the lose ball throws it up court to AA who throws a allyoop to AJ for a throw down.

Now that is exciting.


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Maybe this is better than a win because of Amir's good game.
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Re: At NewYork Jan 13 7PM

Very interesting thoughts. And some dillusional ones. Here's the deal:

1. The pistons can only fire Flip if he loses the championship. True, we have a 29-10 record(which is pretty ludacris if you ask me), but the team development isn't there...or is it? I have to admit that we ALL can be some of the most selfish-spoiled fans in the NBA. We had LB gone 'during' the trophy presentation! Will there ever be ANY satisfaction? I hated the Knick loss as much as anyone (except Du4ev and Low), but as of tonight...I guess it WAS only one loss. But Flip aint goin nowhere, no time soon. The day of reckoning will come in only one way: if The Pistons end the season with a loss!

2. The rotation HAS to develop. BUT Brevic, Herrmann and Hayes will not be the answer. They play to dflip's gfailure to have a playbook that works to people's talents. His playbook only includes the starters strenghts and THAT"S why the bench cant run any plays for each other.
I hope practice isnt being wasted on developing THE STARTERS who dont need a coach to run their offense. They been together 5 freekin years. Give this team some life. Start someone else NOT just because of injury, for heaven's sake.

3. Maybe Rodney stuckey is a younger Flip murray(yeah I said his name).
He has truly regressed to the point where I see him doing exactly the same role #6 had. He's too eager to create his own shot and I 'know' he can pass the ball. It goes back to saunders.

4. And maybe this is all Joe D's fault. Where's his voice? Have the players tuned him out? Shouldnt they 'feared' the repercussions from a loss like that? If my kids did something to the equivalent of that effort, I would have(insert Flintstone's whistle here) !!! I need to here more from Joe, cuz right now , it's looking like we blew it on Nazr deal(again a sign of Flip's under-development).

5. Maybe BIG BEN saw the writing on the wall !?!

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