12 mins of in-game play for Stucky and Afflalo is lot more than anyone else has gotten around here for a while. True its down from what it has been and lower than one would like but also Sacramento's bench is not a bench. Artest, Bibby and Martin is a joke comming off the bench. That kind of talent is hard to match up with. I know they are just trying to bring them along slowly but it was a dagger tonight for us.

Yes Maxiel has come to the point where I would not consider him a player in development anymore. He will get better of course but you don't need to hold his hand anymore.

What Rookie plan are you talking about? The only Rookie who played was Stuckey who played 10 minutes. Rip and CB played over 40 minutes each. Does this look like Rookie development? It was obvious that Flip was chasing the win and did not care about any development of any Rookie.

Alfllolo took two bad shots in his 2+ mins and was yanked. He needs more PT to be affective. I think driving to the hoop his next time out and getting his confidence back is what is needed. Hopefully with Billups playing 40 tonight and Rip almost 43, AA gets more burn tomorrow.

Stuckey's indecisiveness is turning him into another Arroyo as he is dribbling it to much and thinking to long about who to pass it to. Or he is picking up the dribble to fast and then is forced to make a bad pass. No TO's in his 10 minutes so one positive there.

Two things learned in the past week, we got beat by a team with a scorer off the bench in J Terry and tonight, lil Kmart and Bibby. I think it is time to move one of our scorers to the bench..Dice or Tyra, I mean Tay so that we can compete for 48 mins and not 38.

Only the third time this season the Pistons have lost a game when leading at the end of 3. (26-3 now)

The announced plan was 20 to 25 minutes. For Stuckey. Half is not meeting a goal very well. Playing Stuckey 10 minutes is no reason to hold Afflalo to 2 minutes. I consider this all a joke, perpetrated on us fans.

Now, this was all announced with loud trumpets, and not delivered on. It was a bad idea anyway.

Here is a much better plan: Have Stuckey just learn to play point guard, and have Afflalo just learn to be a shooting guard. Pair them up together, and make sure Rip and Billups get good long rests (preferrably the whole 2nd quarter) in the 2nd quarter.

blame the loss on my friend's mom - she's gone to 2 games this year and both were losses. the crowd was there tonight - actually showed up, it was mostly a sellout, and maintained excitement throughout the game.

unfortunately, the pistons had other plans. we lost this game because we didn't play defense, and the explanation is no simpler than that. complacency and laziness have set in - the pistons could have won this game if they played hard the entire 48 and they know it. but the problem is, they DO know that, and slacked off thinking they could turn it on. they're no longer wanting to kill teams like they did during the big win streak. if this continues, dumars has to step in.

sure stuckey's defense was bad, but it wasn't a matter of individual skill, it was a matter of not knowing how to defend the pick-and-roll with dyess. they were not on the same page, but it's correctable. but still, stuckey needs to be more selfish - he's there to be a game-changer, not a playbook-follower. hopefully saunders isn't trying to get him to play like the rest of the starters, because that's not going to fly.

With RonRon blowing kisses we had no chance.
Let's find some guys we can pick on. Like SanAntone.

We scored 16 points in the 4th against Sacramento. The offense is still vulnerable under the coaching staff and this is a more important issue and longer term issue than the loss.

Sheed is not the right guy to be on Artest outside at the end of the game. Maxiel should have been in from about the 6 minute mark for defense for Dyss.

This coaching staff is usually stymied when things don't go well--very slow to react. Again, a long term concern not just for this game.

The starters played way too many minutes and the defense was poor.

I wasn't able to watch this game, but looking a the box score, a couple of stats jumped out at me (unfortunately, not in a good way):

Stuckey, 10 mins, minus 17
J-Max, 20 mins, minus 14
Hayes, 10 mins, minues 18

The Pistons' starters playing 40+ minutes on the front end of a back to back =
I have a hard time believing anything Flip says anymore. If you're going to use Stuckey as an excuse to play your starters into the ground, at least make it look credible by playing him more than 10 minutes. The bench has very little confidence right now; they're forcing things too much at times, and being too tentative at times. Regular season wins mean crap if your starters are dead tired when it counts. I bet the announcement of a shortened rotation was met with a lot of groans.

Second straight game where the two starting guards score 52+points to make up for an anemic bench and at least one front court man who barely shows up.

With two losses already to the Bulls, Flip will consider it a must win game so look for the starters to play another 38+ mins unless a couple of them get in foul trouble.

Pistons need to get some easy wins, when do we play the Sonics, Twolves, Heat and Clippers again