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**max** · #61 (**permalink**) 01-24-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by buddahfan

I really don't don't know what people expected from Hayes. He was dumped by the Wiz and replaced by a rookie.

His pay is at about the bottom of the NBA totem pole for a player with 4 or more years in the league.

He is actually shooting better this year than he has for his career.

You get what you pay for.

Maybe he just isn't the same player that he was before the injuries or maybe his college game didn't translate into an NBA game. He wouldn't be the first nor the last guy that that has happened to.

True but he was really hyped by the Pistons. I don't know why they always feel as though they have to hype new players so much because it builds up expectations too high but they always do.

NYPistonFan729 · #62 (**permalink**) 01-25-2008, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by buddahfan

He is a better scorer than Hayes.

flip will play amir because he doesn't want any part of webber

buddahfan · #63 (**permalink**) 01-25-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NYPistonFan729

flip will play amir because he doesn't want any part of webber

Interesting theory.

KGREG · #64 (**permalink**) 01-25-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernie the Slow Adult

If Flip Murray took some of the shots that Stuckey did, this place would be burning.

I agree. Flip Murray right now is a better option than Stuckey. Lindsey has actually PROVEN that the 2nd unit is better with Lindsey on the floor. Stuckey needs soem time, he's struggling big time with the transistion of position and leagues.

mikhail1973 · #65 (**permalink**) 01-25-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KGREG

I agree. Flip Murray right now is a better option than Stuckey. Lindsey has actually PROVEN that the 2nd unit is better with Lindsey on the floor. Stuckey needs soem time, he's struggling big time with the transistion of position and leagues.

Stuckey needs to get the playing time. We get no advantage by playing Murray. Stuckey is way better defender than Flip could ever dream of being. Pistons need to get Stuckey ready for the playoffs.

KGREG · #66 (**permalink**) 01-25-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mikhail1973

Stuckey needs to get the playing time. We get no advantage by playing Murray. Stuckey is way better defender than Flip could ever dream of being. Pistons need to get Stuckey ready for the playoffs.

the contrast between how well the 2nd unit plays with hunter as the backup compared to Stuckey is glaring to say the least. now flipM...well....sometimes his dribble penetration is refreshing, he can finish rather well, when the ball doesn't grow wings and fly out of his hands from time to time.

mikhail1973 · #67 (**permalink**) 01-25-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KGREG

the contrast between how well the 2nd unit plays with hunter as the backup compared to Stuckey is glaring to say the least. now flipM...well....sometimes his dribble penetration is refreshing, he can finish rather well, when the ball doesn't grow wings and fly out of his hands from time to time.

But what does Murray give to Pistons that makes him better than Stuckey? Yeah, he had a few nice drives. But he also has turnovers, and was constantly abused on defense. And his jump shot is not any better than Stuckey's.

KGREG · #68 (**permalink**) 01-25-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mikhail1973

But what does Murray give to Pistons that makes him better than Stuckey? Yeah, he had a few nice drives. But he also has turnovers, and was constantly abused on defense. And his jump shot is not any better than Stuckey's.

I TOLD YOU, THE BALL GROWS WINGS AND FLIES OUT OF HIS HAND!!!! Go watch the tape 3x's - backwards - in ultra slow motion and then come back and we can discuss this

mikhail1973 · #69 (**permalink**) 01-25-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KGREG

I TOLD YOU, THE BALL GROWS WINGS AND FLIES OUT OF HIS HAND!!!! Go watch the tape 3x's - backwards - in ultra slow motion and then come back and we can discuss this

Actually, if I do that, I'll see him catching a lot of offensive rebounds and then passing the ball.

KGREG · #70 (**permalink**) 01-25-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikhail1973

Actually, if I do that, I'll see him catching a lot of offensive rebounds and then passing the ball.

Check-Mate, I'm done....I know when I'm beaten'