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Quote from Sheed on the volume of trash talking he was doing last night and the response from Indy...

"It don't matter,'' he said. "They can say whatever they want back, if they say anything. They ain't going to talk more junk than me.''
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While I'm not a big fan of calling players (or coaches for that matter) out in the media, I think this is 1 part Flip's not so subtle way of trying to motivate Sheed to perform this way more often and 1 part frustration that he knows how good/dominent Sheed can be, he just doesn't do it consistently enough.

CB has made several similar comments in the media recently as well.

I know that as a fan (and owner of Sheed in my fantasy league), I get frustrated as well.

I don't think this was a big deal at all.
Different theory. Flip is still trying to belittle the argument that Sheed, and Dyess, and even Maxiell, have been overplayed. Well,they have been. Overall, and within games. In this game, Sheed was not overplayed, and so he could do well thru the whole game, right down to the finish. Sheed does not take games off. He does not take plays off. There is no switch. Sheed gives everything he can, always. There just is not always that much to give. Flip is playing Amir now, but he still refuses to admit the need to do so, in the face of all logic.
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Sheed does not take games off. He does not take plays off. There is no switch. Sheed gives everything he can, always.
Are you talking about Sheed or Chuck Norris???
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I usually wouldn't see it as a big deal, but it's known that they already have an extremely shaky relationship. There's no need to say it, coupled with his chastising of Sheed not wanting to be an All-Star. Just let it go. Sheed is who he is. You're not going to change him now.
There has been a change recently on how they view Sheed and I am not sure what to make of it. He used to be praised for being a team player and not caring about stats. Now its he should be doing so much more.
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There has been a change recently on how they view Sheed and I am not sure what to make of it. He used to be praised for being a team player and not caring about stats. Now its he should be doing so much more.
You're right. The perception of Sheed has changed while his performance seems similar to when he got here. I remember when he signed his contract (CTC) a lot of people predicted that his skills would fade. That hasn't happened.
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There has been a change recently on how they view Sheed and I am not sure what to make of it. He used to be praised for being a team player and not caring about stats. Now its he should be doing so much more.
Just my 2 cents. Here's what we know for sure:
  1. Rip and Chauncey are not good enough to carry us to a title.
  2. Tayshaun is a marginal Glue Guy, he's going to fade in the conf finals.
  3. Ben's intangibles that made us great are gone, and while stat wise Dyess is doing pretty good, he still does not do what Ben used to do to make us great.
In order for us to get a title Rasheed has to be and play like the best big man on the floor for us to win. He's going to have murder Big Z and Andy if we play Clev, and he at least has to play KG even when we play Boston. We need Sheed playing at an all-star level to win another title.
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Sheed has changed a lot from his days at Portland.

I'm more talking about the fact that he doesn't want to be a superstar, and he doesn't want to carry the team. He was like that in POR, and here as well (although he always steps up in the PO's).

I don't think pushing him will make him do that. In fact, it might just make it worse.

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I don't think Flip Saunders pushing will make him do that. LB, on the other hand could probably get away with it.

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Are you talking about Sheed or Chuck Norris???
I review each game pretty carefully. When asked, I take a good long look at Sheed and how he is doing. Never yet have I seen him take a play off. Yes, he does choose to shoot 3's sometimes when many people, including myself, feel he should be going inside more. But that is not taking a play off. He hits a lot of those 3's.

So I will ask you, just like I have asked many, the next game you feel Sheed took some plays off, let me know. I will be glad to tell you what I saw upon reviewing the tape.
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I'm more talking about the fact that he doesn't want to be a superstar, and he doesn't want to carry the team. He was like that in POR, and here as well (although he always steps up in the PO's).

I don't think pushing him will make him do that. In fact, it might just make it worse.

edited to add;

I don't think Flip Saunders pushing will make him do that. LB, on the other hand could probably get away with it.
It seems to me that Sheed was definitely considered a superstar when he played for Portland.

Now whether he wanted to be or not, I don't know.

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Re: At Indiana Jan 29 7PM

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I review each game pretty carefully. When asked, I take a good long look at Sheed and how he is doing. Never yet have I seen him take a play off. Yes, he does choose to shoot 3's sometimes when many people, including myself, feel he should be going inside more. But that is not taking a play off. He hits a lot of those 3's.

So I will ask you, just like I have asked many, the next game you feel Sheed took some plays off, let me know. I will be glad to tell you what I saw upon reviewing the tape.
Last week on the Jim Rome show, Chauncey Billups said that Sheed doesn't always plays his hardest. He said that Sheed could be the best player in the entire NBA if he gave it his all. Do you know something that CB doesn't?
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