Most of us don't really have a burning need to hang out with Nuggets fans, or to follow how their team does, any more than we would follow the Celtics, Lakers or Knicks.

Most of us talk to Pistons fans. We're not particularly interested in what Chauncey Billups does now that he is gone (thankfully) or concern ourselves what Allen Iverson did last year.

AI is a Piston. Chauncey is not.

because Sixer's management are idiots?

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Dwyane started his career as a PG and then surprise, surprise, he was moved to SG, sort of like Allen and then he has gone back to PG in following years. Something about putting the ball in your best player's hands kind of nonsense.

Mario Chalmers starts at PG.

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Ha! Prior to winning a championship with a guy that I like to call Tim Duncan! Tony Parker was openly shopped around the League and wasthisclose to being traded for Jason Kidd. Tim won another championship and overnight, Tony Parker became an elite PG.

I never said Tony Parker was an elite PG. I said Tony Parker can effectively play the position.

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He's a completely different player because he doesn't have tattoos, cornrows and Larry Genius screaming from the rooftops that he can't play PG. Chris Paul would've been moved from the PG to SG right after the first high kick, dribble under the legs, fake out to the basket if Larry was his coach. Byron Scott played with Magic Johnson so he understands that the unorthodox PG is quite possibly the best one. Larry does not like any PG that can do something he couldn't do.

So now Chris Paul is only a PG because he doesn't have tatoos and he's not coached by Larry Brown? Makes sense.

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No, Joe Dumars told Larry to suck it up and that Chauncey wasn't leaving. Chauncey sucked up to Larry and gave him credit for his "new game" and Larry had another player that he could claim he coached up to be great. Once again, Chauncey was a journeyman that Larry "could mold" just like Haywoode and Eric.

Why are you saying no? LB tried to get CB traded but couldn't. Chauncey is not just sucking up to LB. He is a completely different player. Molded or not, he would never gotten to the point he is at today. He knows that. It's not empty flattery.

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Oh, and Allen as the PG with Detroit? Sacramento 30 and 9. Golden State 23 and 9. Los Angeles 25 and 4. Three wins. Shortly after that, the shackles went on and small ball went off.

What are you talking about? The line-up wasn't changed until the WAS game which was before two embarrassing losses, one to the Knicks, and the choke job against PHI. We played 14 games with AI at PG.

Talk to Denver fans. Those paragons of knowledge and insight!

lol

(BDL excepted)

It will be a disappointing day for me if the trade deadline passes and Hamilton is still here. It simply doesn't make sense anymore, and even if AI doesn't re-sign, and we can't attract anyone decent to play the 2 with $15 million dollars (HA!), I'd be interested to see AA play in the corner shooting treys off of Stuckey kicks, and 30 minutes of inspired perimeter defense.

Removing LB, Flip and Chauncey really exposes Hamilton as a guy who is a great 3rd option, but if you make him the 1st or second, your offense becomes really slow and stagnant.

We're a lousy team but the coach is only exacerbating the situation. I almost wonder, now that both guards say they will come off the bench, if Curry continues to play them both, because someone or someones are being showcased. That, I could understand. Barely.

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Some things about the actual game.

I thought Curry did some things right regarding the lineups, but some mistakes cost us the game.

SB wasn't working early when Tyson Chandler got the ball within 5 feet of the basket against Tay and scored easily. So he subbed out Rip for AJ. I commend him on that. Fine, Curry won't make a tough decision and will let the ego's continue to have their starter status, so I guess making a quick sub is the next best (realistic) thing we can ask for.

Afflalo needed more minutes. After watching some of the Cavs-Hornets game the night before, the Cavs did an excellent job of contesting nearly every shot or at least rush the shooter and get a hand up. Something Afflalo could have helped with with his quickness. Hornets had too many open jumpers in the 2nd half. David West is a jump-shooter. Someone needs to do more homework pre-game.

I was pleasantly surprised to see Sheed still on the bench with 4 minutes left in the game (he was mostly ineffective), and just as we got back into the game with Max's hustle and to a smaller extent McDyess, we took out Max and put in a slow ineffective chucker (Sheed). I love Sheed the person, and have loved Sheed the player, but now I'm pretty over him.

In chat I threw out some stats regarding Sheed's shooting this season. Here's a recap.

2PA - 220
3PA - 177
FTA - 46

The FTA are just sad to be honest. 1.3 FTA per game. 1 FTA for every 25 minutes of court time. He just doesn't get to the FT line. We all know it, but that just demonstrates a lack of discipline, desire, and to be honest laziness.
Kwame Brown, who has played 719 less minutes than Sheed, has 6 more FTA on the season. Nobody will ever praise Kwame for the qualities above, which just makes Sheed's numbers all the more embarrassing.

I've pretty much given up on this season. I'm excited to see what Joe will do to re-tool in the off-season. I'm not going to make anyone the escape-goat, but some things have got to change and I'm beginning to think it starts with Sheed.

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Actually, we have never given AI any kind of chance to be our point guard. None at all. You see, we went to the Kwame / Sheed pairing, which is a disaster for most of the time. (Although we beat the Lakers with it since it fit that game as well as two others.)

We have not tried this unit to start: AI, Rip, Tay, Amir, Sheed, except for three games. The first two, we lost, since Afflalo was taken out of the rotation. And of course, we can't win with our best perimeter defender sitting on the bench. (Like he did in the 2nd half tonight.) The 3rd game, we won - but then we went to the Sheed / Kwame version of too big.

Why did we not stick with the AI, Rip, Tay, Amir, Sheed to start games? It was said at the time that we need more size in our starting unit. But lately, of course, we are playing this very same unit only Stuckey in place of Amir, going way smaller. So, the reason given, while possibly valid, is in retrospect completely nuts.

But, bottom line, it does not matter which two guards we start, as long as AI or Stuckey is one of them so that we have some sort of point guard in the game.

And since it matters so little, you might as well do what will get the most fans watching and coming to the games, start AI.

AI, Stuckey, Tay, Amir, Sheed.

This leaves for a 2nd unit: Bynum (playing little actually as AI and Stuckey also play with the 2nd unit some), Rip, Afflalo, JMAX, Kwame.

Dyess as the 10th guy. (Kind of two tenth guys, he and Bynum.)

And the last guy dressed should be Sharpe, cause he looks like just what we need, someone who can learn to play decent backup minutes to Tay when we need someone with height there.

Allen is not a "Typical" PG; but he is a Playmaker, give him the rock, let him hoop and you dang near get 25+ppg & 7+apg by default. I didn't see the whole game only half of the 3rd and the 4th, so guess what........I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY (about the game), I wish some folks would do the same. It can be really 'irky' to have folk post adamant comments only to find out later, they've only seen about 3 games this season, alas - they are fans none the less.

I'm not defending Sheed because he's worn thin on me too, although his defense on big men is still elite. But instead of comparing him to Kwame (who likely gets fouled because he can't hit them), I'm wondering what his career per 25 minutes FTA is.

I have a feeling, Sheed has never been a guy to get to the line much. This jacking of 3s, avoiding the paint, no face to the basket game stuff has been going on a long time, and Sheed is starting to become a liability if he's not banging the tramp.

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Ok. I happen to actually like basketball so i follow alot of teams. I have LP which allows me to do that. You don't like Chauncey. Whatever.

I didn't bring up Chauncey. Someone else did. And people seem to be concerned with AI's previous career since every time anyone brings up anything negative about him, the responses range from.

"How could you? Don't you know AI is going to the Hall of Fame?"

or

"AI has been an elite player for (insert number of years). How can he not start? He's earned it."

or

my favorite

AI has won a scoring title, MVP, scored 28472 points, avg 34290 assists, played 4824829 games, is a 8317923 time All star, superstar, great person, teammate, friend, father, family member, etc, etc. as a response to why AI can't play defense

It's the most puzzling thing.

I usually follow 4 teams, but league pass is beyond my budget at the moment. I love NBA basketball. (But of course, I am first and foremost a Pistons fan.)

No, I do not like Chauncey. He is not a Piston, and personally I dislike his personality, and some of the things he has done in the past. I also got sick of his game in Detroit, which was like watching paint dry while someone gives me a lobotomy with a teaspoon. Watching Billups run a fastbreak is like having someone smash my toes with a sledgehammer.

Nonetheless, when he was here, I supported him because he wore the uniform. This is after all a forum community based around mostly, love of the Detroit Pistons, not a particular player.

You bring up Denver and Chauncey on this board as much as, if not more than everyone else combined.

Well, you accused him of not being a good person, when Billups was involved in some particularly sordid business in Boston. I think your non-stop critique and cheap shots are starting to wear on more people than just me (with the exception of Lee).

Billups is gone. Bye bye. See ya later, skater. Adios. Arrevaderchi. Sayonara. Auf Weidersehen. Ciao. Buenos Nochas.

And AI is going to be here all season. And hopefully, yeah, he gets it together in game 82, before we go into the playoffs so we can have a chance to erase the wasted opportunities of the last 3 years.