This is even worse then before. We couldn't even enjoy it over the off season before MM found a way to mess it up. Now ESPN reporting that talks are off.

MM gets better and better.

ford probably didn't want to pay him an extra $250,000 a year or something. gj lions.

why god why do I care about the lions

I just don't get it?!?!?!

According to ESPN, his asking price was pretty reasonable, 3 yrs @ just under 1.5 million a season. That isn't extreme given the salaries some Offensive Coordinators have been getting.

That's strange. It was all bad dream. Like you went to kiss a pretty lady and she turned into a skeleton.
Who's left out there?

still can't believe we loss him due to money. this will go down as one of the "bone-headed"-ish moves in Lions history. The NFL needs to step in and remove this sabotage artist. Fire Millen/the Fords...whoever was responsible for this snafu.

I agree 100%. Martz is one of the best offensive minds in the game and he also has head coaching experience, something that no one else on this staff has.

The Lions are blowing tens of millions of dollars on offensive "potential" every single season. Why not spend another 1.5 million a season on someone that can turn that potential into performance???

I just don't understand it at all. Hopefully there is more to the story that we don't know about. Maybe the difference in money was just an excuse and there are other reason that we don't know about. Otherwise Millen should just resign right now.

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I've been reading a couple of articles saying that it probably wasn't about money after all. Which only makes sense considering neither Ford or Millen has been afraid to spend money on this team.

I have a feeling it was more about Martz's clashes with managment and his desire for absolute power of the offense.

I'm sorry to say that I believe Martz finally realized what a couple of clowns the Lions owner and GM were, and how they blame everyone for the franchises failure other than themselves. I think he made a wise career move avoiding Detroit.

That shows how smart he is, and that we probably missed out on a quality football coach.

I think everyone should just chill. After hiring Marinelli (or Marinate as TFD calls him), we were all feeling a little better about the direction of the team.

In my mind, if Martz is not a good fit with the HC, then we don't want him here. We don't need to become the Rams on offense to be successful. Look at what Chicago did with barely any offense this year. You know the Leo's are better with the ball than da Bears.

If the Ford's were cheap, they would not have fired Mariucci. He's still getting PAID. They are guilty of other mistakes, but being cheap is not one of them.

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