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Old 09-14-2007, 01:57 PM
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The $.25M against the Pats org. was just to make sure they know they're still ultimately responsible for what goes on in their house.
Bill Bel. did this, he should suffer only. I don't like the draft picks thing because it hurts the innocent team.
But in a way this makes up for the selling and buying of caoches,with draft picks, they did a few years back.
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The $.25M against the Pats org. was just to make sure they know they're still ultimately responsible for what goes on in their house.
Bill Bel. did this, he should suffer only. I don't like the draft picks thing because it hurts the innocent team.
But in a way this makes up for the selling and buying of caoches,with draft picks, they did a few years back.
I don't like the draft picks either, but it is a measure to have teams policing their coaches and staff to prevent similar incidents or other violations.
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Stoney & Wojo said today that Marinelli noticed the camera in Foxboro last year, asked an official if that was legal and was told "no". They warned the Pats and they stopped using the camera for a little while but then resumed. They also mentioned that the Lions' field-to-booth headsets went out a couple times during drives.
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Bill Bel. must be a gluton for punishment. Lord knows the coaches don't offer him adequate stimulus.
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The Cowboys' QB Coach, Wade Wilson, who is currently serving a 5 game suspension and was fined $100,000 for violation of the league's substance abuse policy, is questioning why Belichick wasn't suspended.

ESPN - Cowboys' Wilson: Belichick discipline inconsistent - NFL

I can kind of see his point. I never really thought of a suspension as punishment, but it would make sense. Players and coaches (see the Lions' Naked Wendy's Drive Thru Coach from last year) alike are suspended all the time, so why not Belichick? Wilson was fined nearly a 3rd of his salary, while $500,000 to Belichick is only 12% o his $4.5 million salary.

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The Cowboys' QB Coach, Wade Wilson, who is currently serving a 5 game suspension and was fined $100,000 for violation of the league's substance abuse policy, is questioning why Belichick wasn't suspended.

ESPN - Cowboys' Wilson: Belichick discipline inconsistent - NFL

I can kind of see his point. I never really thought of a suspension as punishment, but it would make sense. Players and coaches (see the Lions' Naked Wendy's Drive Thru Coach from last year) alike are suspended all the time, so why not Belichick? Wilson was fined nearly a 3rd of his salary, while $500,000 to Belichick is only 12% o his $4.5 million salary.

What are your thoughts? Do you think that Wilson has a point or do you think he's just being a cry baby?
I think he got a point. I think the commish needs to wake up - you don't take a third of someone's salary as a fine. That's bull. As far as suspension - there's some truth to the fact that many other culprits that broke various rules were suspended, so why not him. I support this guy entirely.
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I think the violation is worthy of a suspension. If the evidence is that strong, I suggest at least suspension for the rest of the season. That would send a greater message to the NFL and it's fans than a small checkbook hit to one coach.

Belichick just got re-signed for undisclosed dollars and term. IMO anyone that believes the Pat's ownership wasn't aware of his coaching technique has their head in the sand.

Donaghy got bounced from the league for his infraction. What makes Belichick so special...Super Bowl titles? How legit are they?

Goodell wimped out, just like Stern.
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Gambling and video taping are two different things.
Wade W. took the growth hormone for diabetic reasons. Almost legit if you ask me and he doesn't play. Maybe they were worried he would sell it to players.
I think the punishment was too stiff.
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Is this a joke? It's alright to photograph every angle of every offensive play that a QB directs and have the info downloaded to a laptop or printed and ready for review before the QB can finish slugging some Gatoraid and sit down. He slaps on a headset and and participates in a conference call with coaches upstairs as they disect the last possesion.

So now it's illegal to corellate the sideline defensive signals with the legally obtained encyclopedia of realtime player movement.

Much ado about nothing.
i totally agree. everything's in public view, what's the big deal?
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Re: Pats caught cheating, face "severe sanctions"

If they would have bugged the other team's locker room, then I think it would have been a big deal.

What they did is no different than if they would have hired a savant to sit and memorize the other teams signals.
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