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Originally Posted by The Low It is true to some degree. OJ aside, with the exception of maybe Pete Rose, ...

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It is true to some degree. OJ aside, with the exception of maybe Pete Rose, most high profile Whites that get into trouble often have their escapades laughed off or forgotten about relatively quickly.
B. Clinton - Yes

R. Nixon - No

I think liberal pink skins tend to get off easier because they are less likely to be persecuted and prosecuted in the media than conservative pink skins.

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LOL @ "pink skins"
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I'm thinking that maybe it seems like blacks are getting targeted since we are discussing high profile athletic cases only (OJ, Bonds, Vick, etc.).

If you take a look at the other high profile cases, you could argue that there are a lot of white people being made an example of also. In fact, half of what the criminal justice system does is try to make examples out of people as a deterrent.

Just some other cases that you may have forgotten about:

Andrew Fastow/ conspiracy- 10 years
Mrs. Fastow (WIFE!)/ 1 year for tax charge, failing to report his kick-backs
Ben Glisan Jr. (enron tresurer)/ 5-years
John Rigas (Adelphia)/ 15-years
Tim Rigas (his son)/ 20-years
Bernie Ebbers/ Worldcom- 13-25 years.

I could go on an on. Kozlowski, Martha Stewart, Mark Swartz, Frank Quattrone, Kirk Shelton...

All of these people are serving actual jail time. 15 years is a long time when you are 55 years old.


My point is just that the media latches on to the guys that we talk about because everybody knows who they are.
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B. Clinton - Yes

R. Nixon - No

I think liberal pink skins tend to get off easier because they are less likely to be persecuted and prosecuted in the media than conservative pink skins.

I wouldn't call getting impeached for having an affair getting off easy. I can think of a lot of Presidents who had affairs in office who weren't impeached.

George HW Bush, Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy, Woodrow Wilson, Warren Harding and Dwight Eisenhower have all been rumored to have had affairs in office. It was only an issue for Clinton.
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I wouldn't call getting impeached for having an affair getting off easy. I can think of a lot of Presidents who had affairs in office who weren't impeached.

George HW Bush, Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy, Woodrow Wilson, Warren Harding and Dwight Eisenhower have all been rumored to have had affairs in office. It was only an issue for Clinton.
The obvious rebuttal is that he wasn't impeached for having an affair.
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Re: Vick's sentence: 23 months

And I think it had more to do with lying under oath about the affair than about actually having one.

Though to be fair, no congressional investigating committee or special prosecutor investigating any of those other presidents would have even remotely considered asking him whether the fly remained zipped or not. They would have considered that private, tacky perhaps, but still not something to be brought out in public discourse.
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And I think it had more to do with lying under oath about the affair than about actually having one.

Though to be fair, no congressional investigating committee or special prosecutor investigating any of those other presidents would have even remotely considered asking him whether the fly remained zipped or not. They would have considered that private, tacky perhaps, but still not something to be brought out in public discourse.
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Here's a pretty thorough rundown. As with most things, it's complicated.

None of those other presidents were ever the defendants in sexual harrassment trials. Clinton defended his contention that she should not be allowed to sue him while he was president and took it all the way to the supreme court... and then lost.

What a mess.
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Maybe it has more to do with egos then? When a pink skin gets in to trouble; he usually fades away into the darkness.
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Some people might think that lying about WMDs in order to start a war, or lying about nuclear programs in order to start another war, or lying about not torturing people, or lying about revealing the identity of a covert CIA agent is more important than lying about sex.

Remember...I didn't start this conversation.
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Some people might think that lying about WMDs in order to start a war, or lying about nuclear programs in order to start another war, or lying about not torturing people, or lying about revealing the identity of a covert CIA agent is more important than lying about sex.

Remember...I didn't start this conversation.
I would agree. You should file a civil suit like Paula did.
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