Dyess' charge? Just out of curiosity, did anyone here think that was an offensive foul when it happened?

Billups' turnover under the basket. Did you watch the baseline camera angle? Did you see any contact between LeBron and the ball? Hand may be part of the ball, but elbows aren't.

LBJ drives against Sheed, who appeared to be avoiding contact...foul.

LBJ drives against Tay without contact... foul.

Tay's dropstep lay-in to take the lead... travel (we can agree to disagree on this one. I watched it in super slow mo and his right foot did not slide at all).

These all happened in crunch time and you were all wittnesses.

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Some of those calls were questionable, though I definitely don't agree on the Chauncey turnover. That looked like a clean strip to me.

In any event, the refs didn't force the Pistons to give up 34 points in the first quarter, or to give up far too many offensive rebounds throughout the entire game, or to forget how to play simple pick and roll defense in the final seconds of regulation without giving up a clear path to the hoop for an uncontested LeBron dunk. The refs also played more than a small role in getting the Pistons to the line 29 times in the first half, which was a key factor in their getting back in the game after going down by 13 early in the second quarter because of all the free chili they were handing out.

I was too emotionally charged watching that last night.

Calmer now, I feel confident saying that was one of the worst displays of pick and roll defense I have ever seen in a professional game.

And I would like to re-iterate, why it is ok to double Lebron on the perimeter with a big, and it's not ok to double Shaq down low with a small.

It's totally inconsistent and makes no sense whatsoever.

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a charge is damien wilkins running into Maxiell

a block is lebron james running into Maxiell

clear? good.

Foul Delfino.

Looks like a Kobe foul to me. Delfino is a euro player.

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this game was nauseating to watch because of all the foul calls. i can't complain about the officiating because we got a TON of calls our way. but it wasn't even fun to watch and i'm glad i wasn't at the game.

I sense fear in you....anger...a 'conflict'....you all tried to banish the Sith. but you fail to realize that as long as Dolphins are allowed to patrol our sidelines, The Sith will always be present.....may the darkness prevail on your discouraged soul........................ there is still a place in the galaxy for you, RC....

NO HOGG!...What was nauseating was taht I watched the game on NBATV and got the Cleveland feed and FRED MCLEOD! If you thought he was annoying in Motown(and u all know I couldnt stand HIM) You should have heard him last night. Obviously, Lebron is his new meal ticket. Some Fred quips:

!. The Maxiel block and subsequeint double foul. Claims Max wasnt set.
2. Rick Mahorn. Brought up his foul on Mark Price in 89 as the reason Cavs didnt go to Finals.
3. Rip's and one vs Vareajo. His game partner , whats his name, Scott Williams,implied Varjeo wasnt set, without actually saying it. Stated the man who leads the league in offensive charges taken(Flop Boy) should have gotten the call.
4. James block on Rip. That Bron's defense in the 4th quarter(including 'causing' Tay's travel) changed the game.
5. On Brons game ending 3" game over!!Good night, Detroit. Nice to know ya."before hiding under a rock when replay reversed call.

Two teams I just cant to listen to:Boston, and now Cleveland!!!!

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Skool,

I'm glad you brought that up, because that might be why I got so worked up at the refs. Listening to McCloud was unbearable.

The main reason it is so irritating is because I know that he doesn't even believe what he is saying. He is pandering big time.

He'll say something about a call, and then when the replay shows the complete opposite, he'll just reconfirm his point.

On the play where Lebron fouled Chauncey on the baseline, he watched the close-up replay and said "Lebron did a nice job of getting both hands on top of the ball." The replay showed one of Lebron's hands pulling CB's off-arm from the ball and the other hand grabbing the CB's right elbow. There was about about 1.5 feet between that and the "top of the ball."

At least he was one guy that deserved to leave after the Ship.

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