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Originally Posted by TaShawn Just since I'm on the subject, this pattern of going on runs with Amir Johnson ...

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Old 03-05-2008, 01:45 AM
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Re: Seattle March 4 7:30 PM

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Just since I'm on the subject, this pattern of going on runs with Amir Johnson in the game is getting beyond the point of coincidence. After scoring 41 points in the first quarter, Seattle scored 1 point in almost 7 minutes with Amir in the game in the 2nd quarter. As soon as he left the game with his 3rd BS foul, Seattle scored 8 points in about 50 seconds. It's uncanny.
It really is. Amir is a one man defense.
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Re: Seattle March 4 7:30 PM

Starters combined for a (-40), while the bench combined for a (+50) for the game. The starters truly took the game off and the bench won it for us. Chauncey passing to Amir on the last meaningful play, a play that was designed to go to Tay, speaks volumes about the wonderful coaching done by Flip this game. Kudos to him for giving more minutes to Max and Amir, than to Dyess and Sheed.
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Re: Seattle March 4 7:30 PM

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Tay played his usual fine game. Lots of points, lots of D. But playing the whole 2nd half when there is a game tomorrow night too is of questionable value.
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I'm annoyed about Tay's min especially since we play BOS tommorrow. Note to Flip. THIS IS SEATTLE. We don't need Tay playing 38 min against Seattle.
39 minutes for Prince. If he were doing that every night I'd be right there with you, but if an NBA player can't play heavy minutes two nights in a row then something is wrong. I'm not sure the Pistons win last night without Prince in the entire second half.

And if you have a chance to win a game you have to take it, and last night that meant a frontline of Tay, Max, and Amir. Nice job by the coaching staff finding a combination that could put the game away. A win on the books is worth more than a slightly better chance of winning the next night.
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Re: Seattle March 4 7:30 PM

If we were talking about prince playing extended mins every night we should be concerend but were talking about a couple games here and there. Overall prince is getting tons of rest... not only is he averaging 3 mins less a game, the amount of games in which he's playing 40 mins or more is down just an insane amount.


Here are the last 5 years of princes career (no 40 min games his rookie year)

3 reg season games of 40 plus mins no back to backs

24 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 3 sets of back to back

19 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 1 set of back to back

24 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 3 sets of back to back

11 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 1 set of back to back
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Re: Seattle March 4 7:30 PM

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If we were talking about prince playing extended mins every night we should be concerend but were talking about a couple games here and there. Overall prince is getting tons of rest... not only is he averaging 3 mins less a game, the amount of games in which he's playing 40 mins or more is down just an insane amount.


Here are the last 5 years of princes career (no 40 min games his rookie year)

3 reg season games of 40 plus mins no back to backs

24 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 3 sets of back to back

19 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 1 set of back to back

24 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 3 sets of back to back

11 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 1 set of back to back
It doesn't matter how much less he is playing when he is still being over(trained)played.


It is a legitimate concern and whether or not he is overtrained to the tune of 1 minute or 5, he will still reap the consequences sooner or later.

Flip can get what Tayshaun brings from Jarvis or hermann, he just needs to play them. One game here or there in the loss column is not as important as a fresh Tayshaun come payoff time.

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Re: Seattle March 4 7:30 PM

To continue my previous post.... all our starters... our guards to a greater extent are not being pushed beyond the limit day in and day out has gone down greatly.... that magic 40 min in a game is really becoming a none issue and we should be fresh come play off time. found this even more interesting then the avg min per game.. our record is similar to 2 years ago when we were going for wins every night but were doing it with little to no over use of starters this time.

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08 7 games 0 b/b
07 23 games 1 b/b
06 19 games 0 b/b
05 35 games 6 b/b
04 20 game 3 b/b

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08 4 games 1 b/b
07 14 games 1 b/b
06 17 games 0 b/b
05 16 games 0 b/b
04 12 games 3 b/b

Rasheed

08 3 games 0 b/b
07 9 games 0 b/b
06 16 games 0 b/b
05 13 games 0 b/b
04 21(2) games 0 b/b (games with us)

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08 0 games 0 b/b
07 not going to sort out who was the starting center per game sorry
06 9 games 1 b/b
05 17 games 3 b/b
04 31 games 4 b/b
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Re: Seattle March 4 7:30 PM

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If we were talking about prince playing extended mins every night we should be concerend but were talking about a couple games here and there. Overall prince is getting tons of rest... not only is he averaging 3 mins less a game, the amount of games in which he's playing 40 mins or more is down just an insane amount.


Here are the last 5 years of princes career (no 40 min games his rookie year)

3 reg season games of 40 plus mins no back to backs

24 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 3 sets of back to back

19 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 1 set of back to back

24 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 3 sets of back to back

11 reg season games of 40 plus mins including 1 set of back to back
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Re: Seattle March 4 7:30 PM

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It doesn't matter how much less he is playing when he is still being over(trained)played.


It is a legitimate concern and whether or not he is overtrained to the tune of 1 minute or 5, he will still reap the consequences sooner or later.

Flip can get what Tayshaun brings from Jarvis or hermann, he just needs to play them. One game here or there in the loss column is not as important as a fresh Tayshaun come payoff time.
In what dimension? Tay shoots as well as either one and finishes better than either and is probably a better defender than both combined. Add in PG skills...
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Re: Seattle March 4 7:30 PM

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Starters combined for a (-40), while the bench combined for a (+50) for the game. The starters truly took the game off and the bench won it for us. Chauncey passing to Amir on the last meaningful play, a play that was designed to go to Tay, speaks volumes about the wonderful coaching done by Flip this game. Kudos to him for giving more minutes to Max and Amir, than to Dyess and Sheed.
Is there any video of that play by Amir? I missed that tending to my toddler.

Nevermind found it on nba.com...

Nice, they apparently were using that game as a scrimmage.

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Re: Seattle March 4 7:30 PM

Good job round.
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