By the way...'psycho long arms....good leaping ability....giant mitts' ...you just described Herrmann! Bring in Jarvis Hayes to shoot the ball and between the two of them they give you off the bench everything Tay can give you.

Plus Walter hustles a touch more than Tay. He brings more energy than Tay.

I never said Tay sucked on defense. I said Tay ran away. I questioned his toughness, not his ability.

unless they changed the rules since i checked last... but you can't have two players play one position at the same time (one for offense and one for def) if so why didn't we do that with ben all those years....

If either of hayes or herrmann were as good as you seem to think they would be starting somewhere and not on our bench today....

That's the old efficient market theory.

No, Flip hasn't given him any minutes, but he he has taken them at times......

Cirrus is playing the Devil's advocate

I would say it has not been a free trade, because Amir has given Flip a few wins...
Yeah, Saunders is the Bernanke of rotations.
A role he is a master at. Although, Tay did wimp out in a disgusting way last year.

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Coaches have been making offensive and defensive substitutions for years. It's not like either of those guys are completely one dimensional, however, depending on what was specifically needed at the time either one could fill in for Tayshaun while he got the less than 35 minutes a night that Joe mandated to Flip.


And as for the "just because they come off the bench means they're not good enough to start anywhere else" theory,


come on now. Plenty of starters on other teams would come off our bench. Plenty of guys on our bench would start on other teams. Two years ago folks were saying the same thing about McDyess.

we over played Prince in this game and he was ineffective for the first 3 qtrs on the Boston game.

A wise man once said: "Better to lose one game than to lose two."

might work well except you'd need those 2 guys to replace 1. Maybe we can play 6 on 5?

If you want to question his toughness I guess that's fine besides that I don't think he's ever missed a game and has shaken off some hellacious fouls from Shaq among others.

Your argument is a strong as "Chauncey is weak in late game scenarios".

Stats can be massaged to make them into whatever you need.

It may have described Hermann except he can hardly jump at all, and throws up finger rolls when he has no reason to.

I see no reason to question Tay's effort, let's see how much hustle the Hermannator would bring playing back to back 40 minute games. It's not that hard to look good vs other teams 3rd stringers in el garbage0 time.

Maybe he should grow coke nails like Rip and claw his way to being an 'adequate' defender?

I'm done with this and you, have the last word if you'd like.

I see this as asinine on your part, and yes pathetic.