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I don't hate it when Sheed shoots 3 pointers, but this was clearly out of control. Was he saving himself for the playoffs? The switch argument?
No, he was being Sheed. You have to take him for what he is. I'm sorry, but he's not going to change. If we wanted someone with more consistency of style, then Joe should have never signed him. It's not like this is new.
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No, he was being Sheed. You have to take him for what he is. I'm sorry, but he's not going to change. If we wanted someone with more consistency of style, then Joe should have never signed him. It's not like this is new.
I'm wondering how much of this is Sheed versus just running the plays. Is he calling audibles and floating out there? Or are they running a bunch of plays where he isn't supposed to go to the post?

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Wallace lingered near the Celtics' bench just long enough to declare to coach Doc Rivers, "You got no one that can guard me, Doc."

Then he stepped to the line and missed both free throws.
Uggh.

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meh. The Celtics have got to be the most disgustingly arrogant collection of showboating, jersey popping jackasses in the league. The only guy I even liked prior to this season was Ray, and it's still the case, though that elbow to Rip's throat was pretty bad. Nice of Rip to repay him with a shot to the 'jewels'. And, AA>Dixon, even though I rather like the new guy.
They are winners. Thats all what matters.

We need more KG's (attitude). The Celtics envy of the posters on this forum is APPALLING.

No offense but this post screams "LOSER" to me. And I'm sorry to single you out but i don't wanna shovel through all the ****. BTW with Rip's styles he's basically asking for contact.

EDIT: Sheed doesn't have to tact or discipline to stick to his strength. He wants to be Jason ****in Kapono.

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I'm wondering how much of this is Sheed versus just running the plays. Is he calling audibles and floating out there? Or are they running a bunch of plays where he isn't supposed to go to the post?
Well, he does it more under Flip than he did under LB. He averaged 3.0 and 3.1 three-point attempts per game under LB and is averaging 4.0 attempts this year and last. The first year under Flip (05-06), he averaged 5.4 three-point attempts per game. LB's disdain for overuse of the three was well-known. So I think you are right in suggesting that play-calling is a factor.
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Rip has over 2,000 playoff points and his playoffs average of 20.7 ppg is higher than his regular season average of 17.9. In fact, the last playoff game we had, Rip was the only one to show up with 29 points on 50% shooting. Our second best player was Webber with 13 points.

In game 5, he had 26 points with 5 assists and 12 free throws. Game 4, 19 points. Game 1, 24 points, 7 assists. (2, and 3 were sub par).

Against the Bulls:
20/ 5 (points/assists)
24/ 6
16/ 3
11/ 5
16/ 5

Against the Magic:
22/ 4
22/ 6 (with 14 FT's)
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19

He shows up.
LEBRON HAD 48!!Thats showing up!
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They are winners. Thats all what matters.

We need more KG's (attitude). The Celtics envy of the posters on this forum is APPALLING.

No offense but this post screams "LOSER" to me. And I'm sorry to single you out but i don't wanna shovel through all the ****. BTW with Rip's styles he's basically asking for contact.

EDIT: Sheed doesn't have to tact or discipline to stick to his strength. He wants to be Jason ****in Kapono.
My thing is, there's intensity..and then there's intensity. There's no need to go around acting like a**holes all the time. One could argue that Rasheed is the one who brings "intensity" to the Pistons, as he certainly did in last year's playoff run, and to the team's championship run. You can argue that every team needs that, but that type of emotion has its benefits and disadvantages. Sure, you love seeing him fired up and whatnot, and you love that he comes to play every night. But there comes a point when you have to say "Is that really necessary?" Going around popping your jersey like you're a highschool kid, not a 30-something superstar is something I do not applaud. My disdain for that team has less to do with their success as it does to the way they conduct themselves because of it.

Celtics envy? Where'd you get that from? Yeah, people are overreacting to what is essentially just one loss, but I don't see "envy". Disdain, and maybe hate, but envy? People just want to see their favorite team go on to win the championship, and people go about that in different ways. What I see is frustration more than anything else, but that is something that comes after every loss this team has suffered, not just this one.
If I were to envy any team's success, it'd be the Spurs'. But as it stands, they are a team I have the greatest respect for, because they are one of the most humble teams in the league, despite having had an enormous amount of success. That's the difference. If the Celtics didn't act like such punks, I'd have much more respect for them too.
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Everyone has a right to their own opinion of the Celtics. No one person is any more right or wrong than the other.
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My thing is, there's intensity..and then there's intensity. There's no need to go around acting like a**holes all the time. One could argue that Rasheed is the one who brings "intensity" to the Pistons, as he certainly did in last year's playoff run, and to the team's championship run. You can argue that every team needs that, but that type of emotion has its benefits and disadvantages. Sure, you love seeing him fired up and whatnot, and you love that he comes to play every night. But there comes a point when you have to say "Is that really necessary?" Going around popping your jersey like you're a highschool kid, not a 30-something superstar is something I do not applaud. My disdain for that team has less to do with their success as it does to the way they conduct themselves because of it.

Celtics envy? Where'd you get that from? Yeah, people are overreacting to what is essentially just one loss, but I don't see "envy". Disdain, and maybe hate, but envy? People just want to see their favorite team go on to win the championship, and people go about that in different ways. What I see is frustration more than anything else, but that is something that comes after every loss this team has suffered, not just this one.
If I were to envy any team's success, it'd be the Spurs'. But as it stands, they are a team I have the greatest respect for, because they are one of the most humble teams in the league, despite having had an enormous amount of success. That's the difference. If the Celtics didn't act like such punks, I'd have much more respect for them too.
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LEBRON HAD 48!!Thats showing up!
He also had 39 tonight and lost to a team that's 11 games under .500.


Back to the Sheed thing. I think it was Joe Dumars earlier this year who said that he would like to see Sheed take about 3 shots in the post for every 3-point attempt. I also believe that Flip Saunders said that he feels like he needs a cattle prod to keep Sheed inside the arc. Based on those comments, I'm guessing that the problem is self discipline.

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He also had 39 tonight and lost to a team that's 11 games under .500.


Back to the Sheed thing. I think it was Joe Dumars earlier this year who said that he would like to see Sheed take about 3 shots in the post for every 3-point attempt. I also believe that Flip Saunders said that he feels like he needs a cattle prod to keep Sheed inside the arc. Based on those comments, I'm guessing that the problem is self discipline.
God thanks that somebody FINALLY says that players have responsibilities too. I'm ultimately bored of those"poor coaching/adjusting" accusations. Some here in this forum image like coach is a chess player who can "handle" his "puppets" as he likes. Coach may give orders but this is all: all the rest depends on players. Another irritating topic for me is how some take "adjustments": they threat adjustments like a sort of magic - cast it at the right time and problems gone. From their point of view coach should know when bad play happens and forestall these by making "adjustments". Wake up, coaches' equipment does not include crystal balls. Many of coaches adjustments are orders, but it doesn't mean that sheed bothers to follow them.
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