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Old 12-03-2009, 08:52 PM
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Tim Donaghy quotes

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/sp...ref=basketball

This portion was from hoops hype, but I linked the rest of the article for your reading pleasure.

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Tim Donaghy, the former N.B.A. referee who pleaded guilty to conspiring with gamblers, said he never rigged basketball games. “The big question on everyone’s mind is, ‘Did Tim Donaghy fix games?’ ” he wrote in his book, “Personal Foul,” which will be released Friday. “The answer is no. I didn’t need to fix them. I usually knew which team was going to win based on which referees had been assigned to the game, their personalities, and the relationships they had with the players and coaches of the teams involved.” New York Times
Donaghy describes in detail how referees favored players they liked and penalized those they disliked, often influencing the outcome of games. Fewer fouls were called on marquee players because the league and fans wanted them in the game, not on the bench, he said. “We would never call these types of fouls on superstars, just on the average players who didn’t have star status,” Donaghy wrote, referring to small infractions. “It was important to keep the stars on the floor.” New York Times
Donaghy said he received thousands of dollars in cash at diners and airports, including the time he received $6,000 at the Philadelphia airport. “I started stuffing wads of cash into my socks and underwear and quietly passed by the T.S.A. agents with a grin on my face and a sigh of relief,” he wrote. New York Times
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Good post, I renamed the thread. Thanks kidz
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:12 AM
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No problem, and yea, I thought that it was both enlightening and far more disturbing than a guy manipulating the game by himself for a buck. If it is true....wow.

It again feeds into the whole NBA not being entirely fair group.
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:34 PM
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Donahy on 60 Minutes Sunday night...should be interesting as he explains comments from the book.....Stern will deny everything
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Ex-NBA referee Tim Donaghy: I refused to affect results of games - ESPN

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NEW YORK -- Disgraced former NBA referee Tim Donaghy says he refused to make calls to affect games even if it meant he lost money and it angered the mob.

In one game where he bet on San Antonio, he ejected coach Gregg Popovich midway through the first quarter and the Spurs eventually lost the game. That drew the ire of the mob, which reportedly lost money using his tip.

"I just told them that I wasn't making calls in games to influence the outcome," Donaghy said in an interview on "60 Minutes" that aired Sunday night on CBS. "And I'm not going to be able to obviously predict the winner every night, and they have to accept that's what's going to happen."

Donaghy insisted he made wagers on NBA games based on his knowledge of other officials' biases for and against certain players and teams, and that his officiating was not compromised -- a claim that was backed up by the FBI.

"Watching the tapes, we could see there was never anything outlandish where he called a foul or he omitted a foul because he wanted to see a certain team win" retired FBI special agent Philip Scala told the news show. "We never saw that."
Interesting that the FBI backs him up.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:24 PM
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On 60 minutes last night, he indicated that for all of this he made only $100,000 betting on the games. Once the mob found out he was making a few bucks they turned into a million dollar enterprise based on inside tips from him.

They bet on one game where the Spurs were supposed cover a spread and win and he through Popovich out in the first qtr and the Spurs lost the game..... Donaghy almost his family on that and when he eventually went to jail, the mod had someone in there who was threatening to bust his kneecaps.
YouTube - 60 Minutes - December 6, 2009 Personal Foul [Part 1] Tim Donaghy

YouTube - 60 Minutes - December 6, 2009 Personal Foul [Part 2] Tim Donaghy

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They were betting on the games too. They just saw where the mob money went and piggy backed on it.
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If anyone just saw outside the lines (OTL) on ESPN right now.

Tim Donaghy would conspire against Rasheed Wallace and Chauncey Billups! He mentions he would try to "hurt" Detroit because they were on team.

Wow. Rasheed Wallace must be FUMING!
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We were robbed out of at least 2 championships in history between the bad boys I and II.
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I was going to paste just a piece...then it got longer and longer.

I'll post the portion but please do yourself a favor and read the article.

Disgraced former ref Donaghy details scam on '60 Minutes' - NBA - CBSSports.com Basketball

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While Donaghy reiterated that he was successful on between 70 and 80 percent of his picks -- a claim that matches the FBI's conclusions, according to the 60 Minutes piece -- he continued to maintain that his officiating was honest. But the most significant piece of news that emerged from the interview Sunday night was Donaghy's assertion that he did, in fact, manipulate calls that helped him win a bet on a game between the Denver Nuggets and Utah Jazz on Jan. 6, 2007. This is the first time that Donaghy has publicly disclosed a particular game that he wagered on and described the actions he took -- coincidentally, he claims -- to win that bet.
A bombshell -- until you watch the game.
The day before the game, Nuggets superstar Allen Iverson was fined $25,000 by the NBA for comments critical of referee Steve Javie, with whom Iverson has long feuded. In the interview, Donaghy said that he and other referees felt the punishment was too light. Before the Nuggets played the Jazz on Jan. 6, 2007, Donaghy said he and the other two officials assigned to the game -- Bernie Fryer and Gary Zielinski -- agreed that they wouldn't give Iverson a fair whistle that night as a way to "teach him a lesson." Donaghy also said that the referees' onsite supervisor that night approved of the crew's treatment of Iverson.


"I knew that the other two referees and I sought out to do a little justice of our own," Donaghy said. "... In the pregame meetings we came to the conclusion that we were not gonna give Allen Iverson any marginal plays for the basket."


Donaghy told 60 Minutes that he bet against Iverson's team that night, but claimed that he manipulated calls only to stick it to Iverson -- not to help him win the bet. The Jazz beat the Nuggets 96-84, making Donaghy's pick a winner.
"Those allegations have been fully investigated by the FBI and the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the government completed its investigation, finding that the only criminal conduct was that of Mr. Donaghy," NBA commissioner David Stern said in a statement released after the 60 Minutes piece.


If Donaghy was able to execute his plan, he did a better job concealing it than you could imagine. The Nuggets attempted 31 free throws to Utah's 17, and Iverson went to the free-throw line more than anyone else in the game; he was 11 for 12. But there's more, thanks to Synergy Sports Technology, which logs in-depth statistics, play outcomes and video clips of every NBA game.


In the game in question, Iverson drove to the basket 12 times. I watched every one of those plays. Iverson made two driving layups, missed four, lost the ball once and drew five fouls -- three of which were called by Donaghy himself. He was called for two personal fouls and drew nine in the game.


Iverson was called twice for palming the ball, an infraction known as a discontinued dribble. One call was made by Zielinski and the other by Donaghy, who also whistled Utah's Deron Williams for the same infraction with two minutes left in the game. At the time, cracking down on palming was a point of emphasis for the NBA's officiating department, according to a source.



The Synergy video clips showed one play on which Iverson obviously was fouled and didn't get the call. With 2:28 left in the third quarter, Iverson missed a driving layup in transition. Donaghy, the baseline official on the play, failed to call Mehmet Okur for hitting Iverson with his left arm. Donaghy did, however, call Okur for fouling Reggie Evans, who got the offensive rebound and missed both of his free throws.

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