Detroit Pistons Fan Community - PistonsForum.com
 
Go Back   Detroit Pistons Fan Community - PistonsForum.com > Detroit Pistons > NBA Stuff
Forums Home Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

NBA Stuff If it is about the other teams, the league, post it here.

Discuss: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews... at Detroit Pistons Fan Community - PistonsForum.com

I know most of us are relieved and feel somewhat vindicated that the referee situation is being exposed for what ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2007, 03:55 AM
Darth Tater's Avatar
Darth Tater Darth Tater is offline
2006 Fantasy Basketball
Fantasy Champion

2007 Fantasy Hockey
Fantasy Hockey
 
Last Online: Today 06:14 PM
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Wake Island
Posts: 5,376

Re: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews...

I know most of us are relieved and feel somewhat vindicated that the referee situation is being exposed for what it really is and that Stern looks bad (deservedly so). But what will this do to the game that brought us all together in the first place?

Different time (almost 100 years ago), different characteristics (Players vs. refs), and different sports (basketball and baseball)... but here is how the Black sox scandal affected baseball.

The Black Sox Scandal -- Aftermath and Effects
The Scandal couldn't have come at a worse time. A post-war depression was starting to sink in, there was public disillusionment, and racial tensions were reaching a boiling point. The need of America for its good old national pastime was at a peak, and this fiasco ruined even that for the public. The Official Encyclopedia of Baseball says, "baseball suffered a near-fatal blow upon the revelation that the infamous Chicago 'Black Sox' had thrown the 1919 Series . . ." For those die-hard fans, this was a blow from which they might never recover. Still, in present day, nearly 80 years after the fact, baseball fans talk about the Black Sox scandal with a lowered voice and an embarrassed look in their eyes. It's a stain on the revered game that even time is having a problem washing away. The scandal even left its own legacy that is still inciting arguments among fans today: the fate of "Shoeless" Joe Jackson.

1919 Black Sox Scandal
.
__________________
"Quite simply captain, I examined the problem from all angles, and it was plainly hopeless. Logic informed me that under the circumstances, the only logical action would have to be one of desperation. Logical decision, logically arrived at." -- Spock

Last edited by Darth Tater : 08-19-2007 at 03:59 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2007, 11:21 AM
Nemo's Avatar
Nemo Nemo is online now
Member+
 
Last Online: Today 07:59 PM
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Billings, Montana
Posts: 2,448

Re: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Tater View Post
I know most of us are relieved and feel somewhat vindicated that the referee situation is being exposed for what it really is and that Stern looks bad (deservedly so). But what will this do to the game that brought us all together in the first place?

Different time (almost 100 years ago), different characteristics (Players vs. refs), and different sports (basketball and baseball)... but here is how the Black sox scandal affected baseball.

The Black Sox Scandal -- Aftermath and Effects
The Scandal couldn't have come at a worse time. A post-war depression was starting to sink in, there was public disillusionment, and racial tensions were reaching a boiling point. The need of America for its good old national pastime was at a peak, and this fiasco ruined even that for the public. The Official Encyclopedia of Baseball says, "baseball suffered a near-fatal blow upon the revelation that the infamous Chicago 'Black Sox' had thrown the 1919 Series . . ." For those die-hard fans, this was a blow from which they might never recover. Still, in present day, nearly 80 years after the fact, baseball fans talk about the Black Sox scandal with a lowered voice and an embarrassed look in their eyes. It's a stain on the revered game that even time is having a problem washing away. The scandal even left its own legacy that is still inciting arguments among fans today: the fate of "Shoeless" Joe Jackson.

1919 Black Sox Scandal
.

When you click on the "link" and read about the scandal, Also click on the "photo" link. The guy sitting in the front on the left is the great "Nemo". He's also in the "outfielders" photo.........That's my grandfather............

Last edited by Nemo : 08-19-2007 at 11:23 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2007, 11:35 AM
Nemo's Avatar
Nemo Nemo is online now
Member+
 
Last Online: Today 07:59 PM
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Billings, Montana
Posts: 2,448

Re: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews...

I can tell what happened after the 1919 scandal to the White Sox. They basically blew up the team and started over. The players on the team had to answer questions about the scandal for the rest of their lives. Joe Jackson, who was the greatest player of his time, was left to play ball in out of the way places, under an assumed name. He played the game like Willie Mays. Had a .360 lifetime batting average. Outstanding outfielder with great speed.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2007, 03:32 PM
max's Avatar
max max is offline
Super Moderator
 
Last Online: Today 01:03 PM
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 4,746
Re: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews...

I am not sure how attendence will be effected this year. So far it has not stopped people from talking about the latest trades and rookies.

I would imagine it will take somekind of a hit short term. It can get a more popular than ever before if they clean it up and bring in the fans who would not watch before, even before this, because they thought it was corrupt.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2007, 03:56 PM
Dlev59's Avatar
Dlev59 Dlev59 is online now
Forum Guide
 
Last Online: Today 08:00 PM
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Laurel, Maryland
Posts: 2,585
Re: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews...

Believe it or not IMO, people will watch just to see if the corrupt officiating will continue. That is a very strange reason to tune in, however, there are some strange sports fans among us.

So, I am going to say TV ratings will increase, perhaps slightly, but any increase will be a welcome surprise for the league. Attendance will also increase as many yongsters with tremendous potential come into the league, not to mention the new look teams via trades and FA signings.


That is my take on this upcoming season and scandal, as strange as it might be............
__________________
"We are going to be really good offensively and definsively, we are going to be a team that can beat you 120-110, or beat you 80-70" Coach Michael Curry on the 2008-2009 Pistons.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2007, 04:34 PM
Nemo's Avatar
Nemo Nemo is online now
Member+
 
Last Online: Today 07:59 PM
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Billings, Montana
Posts: 2,448

Re: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews...

I see business as usual. These are different times than when the White Sox scandal happened. Most people aren't turning away from baseball just because of the steroids controversy. The few discriminating fans like The Low are very conscious of the integrity of the game, but most of the sheep will still follow their stars and teams......................
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 08-19-2007, 10:05 PM
Buckeyes#1 Buckeyes#1 is offline
Member+
 
Last Online: Today 02:16 AM
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 564
Re: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews...

Something tells me that Stern's desire to have a team in Las Vegas just came to a sceaching halt.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 08-20-2007, 01:35 AM
TaShawn's Avatar
TaShawn TaShawn is offline
Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chicaaago
Posts: 6,484

Re: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews...

This whole thing makes the players look better, which I think helps with the image problem.

The players come across as being honest, hard working, and just wanting to play the game. And all those people who thought Sheed was a loudmouth?... well, he was just standing up for the injustice of it all.

If a big name player... or a few were the one caught rigging games, then I think it would have been horrible for the future ratings.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 08-20-2007, 01:31 PM
himat's Avatar
himat himat is offline
Member+
 
Last Online: Yesterday 11:50 PM
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,543
Re: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews...

Quote:
Originally Posted by roscoe36 View Post
If the league is fixed, maybe it means Flip Saunders is a really good coach.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Low View Post
Does not compute....does not...compute............does.............not..... .comp....
I'll go somewhere in between. Maybe Flip would be more successful than 2 ECF, but he still would not be a really good coach. He would only be a good coach.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 08-24-2007, 12:52 AM
pass99 pass99 is offline
Member+
 
Last Online: Today 12:43 AM
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 878

Re: Donaghy made bets depending on ref crews...

Quote:
Originally Posted by TaShawn View Post
The players come across as being honest, hard working, and just wanting to play the game. And all those people who thought Sheed was a loudmouth?... well, he was just standing up for the injustice of it all.
Just wait for the latest survey to be release (which the refs and the player's union tried to suppress) that the majority of the players (upward to 90 per cent) have given the majority of their wages to charities...bless their hearts.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Reply


Detroit Pistons Fan Community - PistonsForum.com > Detroit Pistons > NBA Stuff


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All rights remain the property of their respective owners