If we had signed Big Ben last year, I doubt we would have been able to sign C-Bill this year. Of course there are those who say we would be better off next year with Big Ben rather than C-Bill. I don't agree.

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How about Rashard Lewis? The reason Ben got such a big day is not because of his defense on the court, but also because of his work ethic off the court. He is getting overpaid, but by no means is he one of the most overpaid players in the NBA. Stats are a small percentage of how to rate a player. If a GM only looks at stats he would fail.

A) That's not exactly true because Davidson had the Bird rights to both players. It would have put us over the cap a bit, but I think Davidson would have coughed up the coin to keep Billups this year.

B) I'd rather have a player with a great work ethic and a tough on court disposition. Than a player who spends half the year grinning at the camera, after being humiliated, and telling me, "Nah man, we ain't worried..."


C) Ben would have put Lebron on his arse, Chauncey did not.

These are all good points, but you have to admit, Ben got paid for what he did in the past. He will never put up the production to match the $60 million he will cash in with the Bulls.

We paid darko what he might do in the future...for another team.

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Sure, if you only measure production in points scored.

Is he the player that will put them over the top? They can't even beat Pistons at this point.

How many times do we have to have this discussion?

Is he Michael Jordan? NO. He never was and no one here ever claimed he was.

The fact is, this team is better with him than without him. Case closed. You are never going to convince me otherwise by suggesting that he's not Kobe Bryant.

Just saying you're a better team because you didn't pay for Ben Wallace is retarded. Getting humiliated by the Cavaliers ought to be enough to drive that fact home...or maybe being a worse team is preferable to some of you because you have possibilities and potential to get all excited about. That's fine, but don't tell me this team couldn't do better WITH Wallace than they can without because they've clearly shown that they need what he brings to the table.

Now with some luck and miraculous turn of events by the current "coach," you might get some decent production out of these young guys, but that's hardly enough to convince me that removing the strongest part of your strongest asset (defense) is going to make you "better."

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His work ethic and character are not gone though (those things are not in the past).

Ben shoulda signed for 48 million for 4 with the Pistons. He woulda had a more appreciated season here. He coulda made us a better playoff team last season......................Oh no...........just a bunch of woulda, coulda, shoulda...............