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The best model in my opinion is the one that has the state paying for all of the infrastructure improvements ...

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The best model in my opinion is the one that has the state paying for all of the infrastructure improvements so that all that is left for the owner to do is build the arena. Any arena that is built with public funds should be owned by the government that foot the bill. If the team is successful, then they can sell to the owner and make a profit. If not then they can pursue new team owners with deeper pockets to improve the product and possibly, buy the arena.
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I'd rather that public funds are never spent to facilitate private enterprise.

The Pistons built the Palace on their own, taking enormous risks and running way over budget.

This is the way to do it.
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I'd rather that public funds are never spent to facilitate private enterprise.

The Pistons built the Palace on their own, taking enormous risks and running way over budget.

This is the way to do it.


It was unusual to see the Silverdome built in the mid 70s for 55 million dollars. It seats 80,000 people. Then the Palace opened up less than a decade later for the same 55 million, and it seats just a few more than 20,000. I think all of the Detroit sports facilities were built with owner's money, except for infrastructure.
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It was unusual to see the Silverdome built in the mid 70s for 55 million dollars. It seats 80,000 people. Then the Palace opened up less than a decade later for the same 55 million, and it seats just a few more than 20,000. I think all of the Detroit sports facilities were built with owner's money, except for infrastructure.
Exactly. And is Bill D having trouble making money off the Pistons? I sincerely doubt it.
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Re: Seattle files lawsuit against SuperSonics' attempt to move

Clay Bennett Might Leave the "Sonics" Name Behind

This guy should be tarred and feathered.

The whole idea of abandoning his lease is ludicrous. I heard a speaker at a conference use him as an example.

To get out of the lease cheaply, he has to argue that the Sonics don't provide an economic benefit to Seattle . Meanwhile, he's in Oklahoma City, arguing that the franchise will bring an economic advantage there, which is why they should build him an arena.

It's guys like this that give capitalists a bad name.

You have to wonder who is the bigger fool, Seattle or the OK City?
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Re: Seattle files lawsuit against SuperSonics' attempt to move

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Clay Bennett Might Leave the "Sonics" Name Behind

This guy should be tarred and feathered.

The whole idea of abandoning his lease is ludicrous. I heard a speaker at a conference use him as an example.

To get out of the lease cheaply, he has to argue that the Sonics don't provide an economic benefit to Seattle . Meanwhile, he's in Oklahoma City, arguing that the franchise will bring an economic advantage there, which is why they should build him an arena.

It's guys like this that give capitalists a bad name.

You have to wonder who is the bigger fool, Seattle or the OK City?
Mr. Bennett never had any intention of staying in Seattle. He demanded a brand new, 500 million dollar arena paid for in its entirety by taxpayers. He refused a 150 million dollar renovation to the existing World Class arena (circa 1998 when 150 million dollars was spent on upgrades). OKC is offering less than Seattle toward renovations, a much smaller market, and almost no guarantee of fan support. (ticket sales for the Hornets dropped dramatically their second year in OKC).

The owners want to have an NBA team in their hometown, and Stern's NBA believes that the owners of the team should have that right.

In most cases, I would agree. If you own a business, pay the employees, and take the risk, you can put your business anywhere you want it, even if it doesn't seem like a smart move economically.

The difference in this case is that the city has invested alot of money into this franchise. The bonds on arena renovations won't be paid off for another 10 years, and the repayment plan relies on taxpayer money and concession sales taxes at the Key. Guess how many hot dogs and cold beers they will sell when the basketball team leaves town.

As a Seattle resident, I hope the team stays. I've been to quite a few Sonics games since I've been here, and I will truly miss pro basketball if they leave. (Or semi-pro in the case of the Sonics!), but I won't miss Clay Bennett
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Re: Seattle files lawsuit against SuperSonics' attempt to move

agree 100 percent owners should be able to have the team where ever they want.... but the problem with that.... you shouldn't be able to move a team... sorry.... team belongs to the town in my book.... you want a team somewhere else... then get an expansion team... or a team that a town really doesn't support... which is nowhere near the story of seatle.

the more i hear about this... the more saddened i am.
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Re: Seattle files lawsuit against SuperSonics' attempt to move

Does anyone have any contact info for the Pistons org (specifically ownership)? I used their email link on the pistons.com site, but I was hoping for something more direct. I sent this letter:

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I am a huge fan of the Detroit Pistons, and I have a lot of love and respect for Mr Davidson, Joe Dumars, and all others who make this great franchise what it is. For this reason I am writing to ask you to vote against Mr Clay Bennett's ownership group's bid to relocate the Seattle Supersonics to Oklahoma City. The dishonest and insincere practices they have engaged in make me fear that such a thing could happen to any team in the NBA, even to our beloved Pistons org. When commissioner Stern seems to sanction this kind of cut-throat behavior, it makes it all the more necessary for the fans to let the owners of our team know how we feel. Voting against it would send the message to your fans all over the NBA that you truly respect and appreciate us, a favor that we are sure to return. Please use your influence to prevent this hijacking of an obviously beloved franchise from taking place. Looking forward to many more wonderful years of Detroit basketball excellence and fan support.
Thank you,
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Is this too long? I want something short and sweet, but something that expresses how I feel. I wish there were a way to start a national campaign for fans league-wide to write their owners and ask them to vote against this attempt. The owners are smart, and if they see enough interest from their fans, they are more likely to protect their own interests by making their fans happy.
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Does anyone have any contact info for the Pistons org (specifically ownership)? I used their email link on the pistons.com site, but I was hoping for something more direct. I sent this letter:



Is this too long? I want something short and sweet, but something that expresses how I feel. I wish there were a way to start a national campaign for fans league-wide to write their owners and ask them to vote against this attempt. The owners are smart, and if they see enough interest from their fans, they are more likely to protect their own interests by making their fans happy.
I like it. The Sonics situation stresses me out as a basketball fan and Seattle resident.
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Re: Seattle files lawsuit against SuperSonics' attempt to move

If Bennett wins and bolts for OKC, the name and history should stay in Seattle. In fact, I'm for a re-distribution of names/uniforms/etc. throughout sports.

IMO, The Colts should play in Baltimore, the Jazz in New Orleans, the Lakers in Minneapolis etc...
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