Forward Delfino drops like a stone on the Toronto Raptors' depth chart - Page 11 - Detroit Pistons Fan Community

mikhail1973 · #**101** (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 16 Mile

Delfino's problem is that no one the Raptor's plays any defense. As for his value, all you need to know is that at the end of every game, he guarding the opponent's best player. So far he has drawn VC, Paul Pierce, Rashard Lewis, Iguodala, and Mike Redd.

As far as Hayes is concerned, he is a poor man's Kapono, a perfect fit for Detroit since his lack of D isn't a concern when you have JMax and Rasheed on the floor.

I already talked about Paptors lack of defense in one of my previous posts. Hayes is not as pure a shooter as Kapono is, but he's better in all other aspects of the game - he can post, he can defend quite a bit better and he's a better rebounder.

mikhail1973 · #**102** (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 12:23 PM

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Role players are often given as much time as they need on the court to try and come back in a game and then Mitchell will begin cautiously re-inserting starters, trying not to upset the improved production. Carlos Delfino actually leads the team (by far) in minutes per game right now at 31.5. Now, while his play has been a nice addition to the team to be sure, something is wrong when he is playing more minutes than not only Bosh and Bargnani, but of Anthony Parker, the man he replaces when he comes in the game.

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coynejeremy · #**103** (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee356

Like someone just said, try watching the games. Then you would know that Delfino was guarding Lewis, and doing so quite well. Delfino made himself quite valuable in this game. The main problem Toronto is having right now is that Delfino should be starting, and their coach ain't figured it out yet. Good defense is a reason to start someone. A very good reason.

Why would it matter if he starts if he is already playing more minutes than any of the starters? And don't tell me it's psychological. His countryman in SA does just fine with the ego-check.

Murph · #**104** (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by coynejeremy

Why would it matter if he starts if he is already playing more minutes than any of the starters? And don't tell me it's psychological. His countryman in SA does just fine with the ego-check.

You make a good point. Two years ago the excuse for Delfino's inconsistant and ineffective play was that he didn't play regularly.

Last year he played every single game, so the excuse for his inconsistant play was that he needed to play more than the 17 minutes a game that he averaged.

Now, Delfino is averaging almost 30 minutes a game, and is 2nd only to Chris Bosh for the most minutes on the team. So now the excuse is that he needs to start to be effective.

The bar keeps moving.

TaShawn · #**105** (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 04:39 PM

Coaches know best right? If he is getting the most playing time, it is because he is the best player. That is what I've always been told.

Delfino Delivers · #**106** (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Murph

You make a good point. Two years ago the excuse for Delfino's inconsistant and ineffective play was that he didn't play regularly.

Last year he played every single game, so the excuse for his inconsistant play was that he needed to play more than the 17 minutes a game that he averaged.

Now, Delfino is averaging almost 30 minutes a game, and is 2nd only to Chris Bosh for the most minutes on the team. So now the excuse is that he needs to start to be effective.

The bar keeps moving.

Don't think he needs to start. Just think he needs to get to know his teammates. He is the new kid on the block and needs to figure out where he fits in with this new system.

Lee356 · #**107** (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by coynejeremy

Why would it matter if he starts if he is already playing more minutes than any of the starters? And don't tell me it's psychological. His countryman in SA does just fine with the ego-check.

Its pretty simple actually to answer your question. Are you sure you can't figure it out yourself? You can't think of a reason to start someone who is playing over 30 minutes a game? Give it a try, let me know if you really can't figure it out.

TaShawn · #**108** (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 05:54 PM

A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question posed for rhetorical effect rather than to receive an answer. Rhetorical questions encourage the listener to reflect on what the implied answer to the question must be.

~~buddahfan~~ · #**109** (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TaShawn

A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question posed for rhetorical effect rather than to receive an answer. Rhetorical questions encourage the listener to reflect on what the implied answer to the question must be.

Have you been taking posting lessons from Pass? LOL

Lee356 · #**110** (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TaShawn

A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question posed for rhetorical effect rather than to receive an answer. Rhetorical questions encourage the listener to reflect on what the implied answer to the question must be.

Its not a rhetorical question when what I might answer is not certain. No way I believe this person thought the answer was certain. I got to give the poster some credit at least.

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