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FreshPrince22 · #**131** (**permalink**) 12-01-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by buddahfan

Name me one player with a European basketball background that has ever succeeded with the Pistons. Whereas the list that have failed with us is pretty long. A resounding shutout to date.

Zelly was our first player with a European background. His first year was 2001-02. Unfortunately he had heart problems and was eventually traded. Since then a few have come and all have left us without making a meaningful impact with the Pistons. Not one has ever cracked the starting lineup and today we have zero on the 15 man roster.

I find this a bit odd that we have been in the ECF 5 years in a row without having any meaningful contribution from a European trained player. Carlos came the closest, but he was moved to Toronto where his performance has come closer to what was expected of him when we drafted him.

Blame it on Cola, Pound for Pound or Flipper or whatever, but the facts are the facts. Players with European hoops backgrounds have never fit in with us enough to succeed.

Thank you.

Breaking down the Euros in the NBA

Uhh... Memo Okur? He averaged about 10/6 for us in his 2nd year (we won the title that year BTW). He had enough success here to earn a contract worth about 8.5 million per year. The only reason he left is because we couldn't technically afford him under the cba rules if we wanted to keep Rasheed. And he had probably the most "Euro" influence in his game of any foreign player we've ever had.

Delfino Delivers · #**132** (**permalink**) 12-02-2007, 09:52 AM

Another high scoring event for Fino. 15 points on 16 shots. Hard to have a high percentage when 9 of the 16 shots are 3's. Guess he is spreading the floor for the bigs. Had enough left in 30 minutes to gather 6 boards too.

They probably beat the Wizards if Bargnani doesn't go 2-13.

~~buddahfan~~ · #**133** (**permalink**) 12-02-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FreshPrince22

Uhh... Memo Okur? He averaged about 10/6 for us in his 2nd year (we won the title that year BTW). He had enough success here to earn a contract worth about 8.5 million per year. The only reason he left is because we couldn't technically afford him under the cba rules if we wanted to keep Rasheed. And he had probably the most "Euro" influence in his game of any foreign player we've ever had.

He lasted 2 years at only 20 minutes a game, Brown sat him in the 2004 playoffs and we never resigned him. Please don't tell me for what will seem like the millionth time that we didn't have the money to sign him. The fact is that we chose to keep an American trained player and let Okur go. Excuses are excuses and facts are facts. Case closed.

roscoe36 · #**134** (**permalink**) 12-02-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by buddahfan

We didn't have the money to sign him.

Case closed.

FreshPrince22 · #**135** (**permalink**) 12-02-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by buddahfan

He lasted 2 years at only 20 minutes a game, Brown sat him in the 2004 playoffs and we never resigned him. Please don't tell me for what will seem like the millionth time that we didn't have the money to sign him. The fact is that we chose to keep an American trained player and let Okur go. Excuses are excuses and facts are facts. Case closed.

We chose the BETTER player of the two. If we could have kept both, we would have. There is no way in hell Joe could ever live down not re-signing Rasheed after he was the reason we got to the finals. It was about money.

Delfino Delivers · #**136** (**permalink**) 12-04-2007, 01:51 PM

Did anyone check out the Raptors box score from last night? Fino Leads the team in scoring while Bosch, Ford and Bargnani (sp) get the night off. Raptors beat the Bobcats. Can't imagine that went over well with Bobcat Management; losing to second string Raptors?

TheeTFD · #**137** (**permalink**) 12-06-2007, 04:41 PM

Raps put up good fight against Suns. 130 to 117 or something.

Delfino Delivers · #**138** (**permalink**) 12-10-2007, 03:50 PM

Seems Carlos's minutes are coming down a bit. Was up around 35 per and is coming in around 25 for the last few games. Still had a good stat line with the reduced time. Hit the boards hard and had an astounding +30.

TaShawn · #**139** (**permalink**) 12-10-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Delfino Delivers

Hit the boards hard and had an astounding +30.

I noticed that. I know that short-run +/- can be very misleading. It is usually because the player just happened to be in during a couple big runs. This +30 was very strange because nobody else on the team was even close to that.

Beats being -30.

TheeTFD · #**140** (**permalink**) 12-10-2007, 04:05 PM

Fino is the best guy they Raps have coming off the bench.
[when he doesn't start]

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