Kobe deserves at least one before the end of his career. If the general consesus is that he is the best player in the league for the past few seasons he should have one.

LeBron and Paul will have dozens more opportunities to win one over the next decade.

justify date rape.

Won't try, doesn't matter.

There isn't a male professional sports league in human history that isn't filled to the brim with rapists.

So long as it happens off the court, it doesn't effect the opinions of anyone voting for the MVP in the least. Only slighting journalists has that effect.

Really??

Where did you get that stat?

PGA tour.

Sorry D59 it's not going away.
And he's a Laker. I refuse to like anything Laker.
Sep those cheer leaders.
Well it's not much of a poll but the Kobes are winning.

My only dissapointing thread to this point in the forum is this one where everybody votes for the guy I enjoy disliking. His overwhelming majority saddens me. He is a hot dog without the bun.

I think that the on court/ off court +/- is actually pretty good for this discussion. The reason is that it also takes into account how bad the team is without the player in question. To me, that is what the MVP vote should be all about-- which team would suffer the most if you took player X away.

#1- Steve Nash, +19.0
#2- Antwan Jamison, 18.6
#3- Dirk Nowitski, 16.5
#4- Lebron James, 16.0
#5- Brad Miller, 13.1
#6- Dwight Howard, 13.0
#7- Kobe Bryant, 12.6
#8- Chris Bosh, 11.7
#9- Chris Paul, 11.5
#10- Kevin Garnett, 10.9

Now keep in mind that this doesn't rank how good each player is relative to the others on the list. But it ranks how much each team DEPENDS on that player. So, the Kings would suffer slightly more if Brad Miller went down with an injury than the Orlando Magic would suffer if Dwight Howard hit his head on the rim and was out for a period of time.

Based on this analysis, Nash wins again.

If the award was Leagues Best Player, then I'd consider Kobe, KG, Lebron, and Chris Paul.

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Not so sure about that. +/- is exactly right for what it is, but I'm not sure it means that taking the player out for games rather than stints means the same thing.

Of course, also not sure if the share of team Sprocket Points I make is any better at estimating what player's absence hurts their team the most. There are 12 guys who account for more than 20% of their team's total Sprocket Points.

From winning teams...
Howard - 27%
LBJ - 23%
Paul - 23%
Camby - 23%
Duncan - 21%
Jamison - 21%
Stoudemire - 21%

From losing teams...
Al Jefferson - 26%
Josh Smith - 22%
Chris Kaman - 22%
Shawn Marion - 21% (also includes games with PHX)
Rudy Gay - 21%


So, put the rankings together and Antawn Jamison ought to be MVP.

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