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Originally Posted by LA Dre Those stats along with leading the league in assists and steals would be enough for ...

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Old 05-04-2008, 08:48 AM
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Those stats along with leading the league in assists and steals would be enough for me to give the nod to CP3. After all the Hornets only finshed one game behind the Lakers for the best record in the west. Kobe may hit that key IMPOSSIBLE shot when his team is going thru the motions to win it in the end, but how many times have you seen CP get the whole team involved and win when they are down at halftime....They just keep coming at you.

I'll have to go with this post as the one that solves the issue for me.
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I'll have to go with this post as the one that solves the issue for me.
I can't stand Kobe, so that solves the issue for ME!

I think Paul has done an incredible job. That team came out of nowhere.
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As far as value to the team goes, the Lakers have won more games despite having lacked Bynum for half the season and Gasol for two-thirds of it. Even now, with Gasol and lacking Bynum, the supporting casts are essentially at parity if not leaning in the Hornet's direction as far as talent goes, and yet the Lakers are winning at a higher pace. Bryant has done more with less.
They won one more game than the Hornets!

CP3 has no jump shot, he can`t do anymore than score 20 a night, wow, you act like scoring 20 a night and leading the league in assists is a bad thing. He shot a higher % than Kobe this year with no jumper. I guess that means he got to the basket more than Kobe then, no?

So what you are saying here is, the Hornets have more talent than the Lakers, thus, CP3 didn`t have very much to do with their winning this year. Is that it?

I am done with this discussion. Kobe will ore than likely win the MVP, however, there are many fans out there, including on this forum who believes that Paul will be robbed.

The Lakers were expected to be a playoff team at least, with Kobe anything less would be unacceptable. The Hornets were perhaps expected to challenge for the 8th seed in the west, thanks to the ecellent coaching of Byron Scott and the leadership of CP3 they challenged for the best record in the WC.

If the Lakers didn`t acquire Gasol I wonder where Kobe would be in the MVP voting now? You may not want to admit it, but Gasol will play a huge part in Kobe winning this award. He was instrumental to the Lakers gaining the best record in the West, whether he was there for a third of the season or the entire season. Lamar Odom is one of the more versatile big men in the league and Derek Fisher has three rings, so your arguement about the lack of talent the Lakers have is weak.
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Re: L.A. Times reporting that Kobe is league MVP

Kobe is the MVP who made more value, can't you see the difference between L.A. and NOR. ?
I say CP3 was robbed by L.A.
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They won one more game than the Hornets!
...with Bynum missing 45 games and Gasol missing fifty. With only one of those two in the lineup, Bryant's supporting cast is no better than Paul's; absent both, it's significantly worse.
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So what you are saying here is, the Hornets have more talent than the Lakers, thus, CP3 didn`t have very much to do with their winning this year. Is that it?
The Hornets put a damn good supporting cast around Paul and he couldn't even win more games than the mismatched and hobbled crew the Lakers put around Bryant.

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CP3 has no jump shot, he can`t do anymore than score 20 a night, wow, you act like scoring 20 a night and leading the league in assists is a bad thing. He shot a higher % than Kobe this year with no jumper. I guess that means he got to the basket more than Kobe then, no?
Look, kid, you have a lot of work to do on this argumentative style of yours. The one thing you never do when distorting your opponent's words is lose your temper.

I said his jumpshot isn't reliable enough for him to be a high-volume scorer at high efficiency. Perhaps you don't want to admit that, but it's true. He certainly does get to the basket more than Kobe does. That's one of the major flaws in Kobe's game.

Kobe's a chucker. He's also lacking as a leader. He's also a rapist. None of that is sufficient to make him less important than Chris Paul.
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Gasol will play a huge part in Kobe winning this award. He was instrumental to the Lakers gaining the best record in the West
Yes. Just as Dikembe Mutombo was instrumental to Iverson's MVP, Latrell Sprewell was instrumental to Kevin Garnett's, Stoudemire was instrumental to Nash's, and David West is crucial to Paul's campaign for his own trophy.
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Lamar Odom is one of the more versatile big men in the league
Lamar Odom is a weak-minded, choking underachiever who's never managed to fit into the triangle before this season, and didn't manage to for 50 games this season until Gasol allowed him to be the third option. Most people would consider Tyson Chandler a better - or more valuable, if you will - player than Odom when Odom plays as a big. About everyone would consider Peja a better player than Odom when Odom plays as a wing. How about that? Two for the price of one.
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Derek Fisher has three rings
Shaquille O'Neal has four. How'd that help the Suns?
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Look, kid, you have a lot of work to do on this argumentative style of yours. The one thing you never do when distorting your opponent's words is lose your temper.
Yeah...condescending is a much better way to go
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Yeah...condescending is a much better way to go


I prefer sarcasm.......like this post.
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Re: L.A. Times reporting that Kobe is league MVP

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...with Bynum missing 45 games and Gasol missing fifty. With only one of those two in the lineup, Bryant's supporting cast is no better than Paul's; absent both, it's significantly worse. The Hornets put a damn good supporting cast around Paul and he couldn't even win more games than the mismatched and hobbled crew the Lakers put around Bryant.

Look, kid, you have a lot of work to do on this argumentative style of yours. The one thing you never do when distorting your opponent's words is lose your temper.

I said his jumpshot isn't reliable enough for him to be a high-volume scorer at high efficiency. Perhaps you don't want to admit that, but it's true. He certainly does get to the basket more than Kobe does. That's one of the major flaws in Kobe's game.

Kobe's a chucker. He's also lacking as a leader. He's also a rapist. None of that is sufficient to make him less important than Chris Paul.
Yes. Just as Dikembe Mutombo was instrumental to Iverson's MVP, Latrell Sprewell was instrumental to Kevin Garnett's, Stoudemire was instrumental to Nash's, and David West is crucial to Paul's campaign for his own trophy.
Lamar Odom is a weak-minded, choking underachiever who's never managed to fit into the triangle before this season, and didn't manage to for 50 games this season until Gasol allowed him to be the third option. Most people would consider Tyson Chandler a better - or more valuable, if you will - player than Odom when Odom plays as a big. About everyone would consider Peja a better player than Odom when Odom plays as a wing. How about that? Two for the price of one.
Shaquille O'Neal has four. How'd that help the Suns?
Like I said, I`m done. BTW, I am no kid.

I would love to prove to you I am not.
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Yeah...condescending is a much better way to go
It's always worked well for me.

As for 'kid', I rather strongly suspect Mr. Lev is at least 15 or 20 years younger than I am.


Perhaps too strong a troll, though.
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It's always worked well for me.

As for 'kid', I rather strongly suspect Mr. Lev is at least 15 or 20 years younger than I am.


Perhaps too strong a troll, though.
I find it amazing how some people hide behind the security of a computer screen to spew their thoughts and comments.

I bet you are a totally different person live and in color.
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