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I can't really say if the Lakers/Celtics series was pre-destined. But I CAN say that I'm ...

View Poll Results: Stern decides the playoff entrants
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I can't really say if the Lakers/Celtics series was pre-destined. But I CAN say that I'm sick of CONSTANTLY hearing things like "The NBA's dream match-up", "the series that everyone hoped for" and "the series of the century".
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The pre-game to the game 4 is going to be one hell of a "Must see tv" because it will be nationally broadcasted. If they don't talk about it then the whole is a joke.
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Donaughy [sp] gave names but they won't be released until they are investigated.
It's getting juicy now !!
Yeah, Dett, Stern is singing now. Gotta draw him out.
The fans of the small market cities will not sit for this.
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RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Report: Federal Agents Ask About Bavetta

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If this game wants to protect itself, it must install a self check. Let the coaches have 2 challenges [reviewable] this will a least make any rouge ref work harder.
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I don't buy the grand conspiracy threory but there are some abnormalities that are hard to explain.

Stern co had a whole year to clean things up and they did nothing. Last year it was the same old beefs and grudges between refs/players and nothing was done.

This thing is bigger that Stern and it always has been, he just does not get it. Maybe now he will have to address it better than just calling Donaghy names.

I just want things to be better. Call every game the same and every player as if they were equal, thats not a lot to ask. You should not have to guess how this or that crew are going to call the game. Every game should be called the same.

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The pre-game to the game 4 is going to be one hell of a "Must see tv" because it will be nationally broadcasted. If they don't talk about it then the whole is a joke.
Stern is on NBA TV now spinning the cover -up
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Maybe Stern gets fired !
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Maybe Stern gets fired !
You would need two/thirds of the owners to approve the impeachment and right now only the Maloofs and mark cuban are definitely in favor of it.

FYI > Stern excuses are Screening on ESPN/News too, if you don't have NBA TV
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Not sure if this has been posted, but here's the excerpt from the Simmons article from 2002:

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Question: What was the most disturbing subplot of the playoffs?
Answer: The officiating, also the most disturbing subplot of the past four playoffs. If you examine the last four NBA playoff campaigns, during every situation where the league definitively "needed" one of the two teams involved to win -- either to A) change the momentum of a series so it didn't end prematurely, B) keep an attractive, big-market team alive in a series, or C) advance an attractive, big-market team to another round -- the officiating appeared to be slanted towards the team that needed that game. I use the phrase "appeared to be," because reviewing an official's performance is purely subjective. Maybe I'm dead-wrong.

These were just the games that jump out in my mind (again, I could be wrong):

1999, Knicks-Pacers, Game 3 ... LJ sinks a game-winning four-pointer (called a continuation foul by referee Jess Kersey even though LJ was fouled a full second before he released the ball).

1999, Knicks-Pacers, Game 6 ... Knicks last chance to close out Indy before the series shifts back to Indiana for Game 7 ... they get every call.

1999, Spurs-Knicks, Game 3 ... down 2-0, the Knicks get every call in their first home game and win their only game of the series.

2000, Knicks-Heat, Game 7 ... Knicks advance to the conference finals ... falling out of bounds, Latrell Sprewell awarded a timeout by referee Bennett Salvatore with 2.1 seconds left even though none of the Knicks called for one ... Sprewell admits after the game that he hadn't called a timeout ... the Miami players chase the referees off the court after the game, yelling that they had been robbed ... after the game, Jamal Mashburn tells reporters, "They had three officials in their pocket" and Tim Hardaway refers to referee Dick Bavetta as "Knick Bavetta."

2000, Lakers-Blazers, Game 7 ... LA shoots 21 more free throws and rallies back from a 17-point deficit in the final seven minutes ... Shaq plays an illegal defense down the stretch, undaunted ... Rasheed Wallace absolutely gets manhandled down the stretch, yet doesn't get a single call ... up by four with 25 seconds left, Shaq body-blocks Steve Smith out of bounds and the refs don't make the call (the most egregious non-call in recent memory).

2002, Celtics-Nets, Game 4 ... Celts up 2-1 ... the Nets are inexplicably allowed to push and shove Kenny Anderson and Pierce while they dribble the ball ... a number of head-scratchers go against Boston, including three offensive charges down the stretch ... four different "bull-(bleep)" chants during the game.
2002, Lakers-Kings, Game 6 ... LA needs a win to stay alive ... from an officiating standpoint, the most one-sided game of the past decade ... at least six dubious calls against the Kings in the fourth quarter alone ... LA averaged 22 free throws a game during the first five games of the series, then attempted 27 freebies in the fourth quarter alone of Game 6 ... rumors that David Stern wanted to pull a Vince McMahon and declare himself "The special guest referee" for this game prove unfounded.
(By the way, I would feel remiss if I didn't share this information: Dick Bavetta was assigned to every one of the above games. That's an absolute fact. You can look it up. Doesn't mean anything ... I just felt the need to pass that along. It sure looks bad, doesn't it? Maybe the league could do a favor for Bavetta and not assign him to Game 3 of the Finals, especially if the Lakers jump to a 2-0 lead over New Jersey. You wouldn't want to rile up those conspiracy theorists or anything. Ummmm ...)
ESPN.com: Page 2 : Only stupid question is one not asked
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