And he also said that he needs the ball at his hands all the time where he can shoot more. How can he do that when Lebron is doing all that and plays 40+ minutes a game??? ARTEST IS REALLY NUTS!!!

Artest to NY would be a good move for the Knicks. Brown can keep Ron in line and he has a lot of respect for Zeke.

It would also make the Knicks a much better team. Like him or not, Ron is one of the top 5 defenders in the league.

And he's from the NY area...

Still, you gotta love the Pacers imploding in the locker room. I guess Donnie Walsh knew how bad Reggie's retirement would hit this team when he tried desperately to persuade Reg to come back.

Wave, "Artest to NY would be a good move for the Knicks. Brown can keep Ron in line and he has a lot of respect for Zeke. It would also make the Knicks a much better team. Like him or not, Ron is one of the top 5 defenders in the league. And he's from the NY area..."

At 6.5M, he's bargain basement deal for someone. The Pacers would logically have to package him with another player to get back someone that brings as much to their stat sheets as Artest does. Realistically trading for someone in $10.M range. This guy is only pulling a little more than a 1+M more than Dorko, err..Darko..

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Mo Evans is tradeable after the 15th.

A trade that includes McDyess and Evans for Artest meets the CBA guidelines. Hmmmmm

Thoughts?

Darko and Mo for Ron? Hire Mahorn as Ron's personal "motivation" coach and you've got yourself a deal!

Would the fans embrace him? I doubt Indy would make that deal anyway. It would be a significant steal for us, talent-wise.

that's a joke right? you guys aren't serious about wanting ron here, and you aren't serious about the ridiculous darko/evans trade offer right?

Did someone mention Darko & Evans for Ron? I would do THAT trade in a minute...regardless of how big a nutjob he is.

Thoughts, McNice is not going to be traded this year. I can't see Joe doing it. While he can make the tough deals, he also has his locker room credibility to think of and McNice is good pals with everyone there, particularly CB.

I could see the Knicks sending an expiring deal for Artest and pieces.

That's the thing about Artest. He's on an affordable deal, but his character questions almost negate the value of his contract. I think the low dollar value does make him an interesting proposition for a team looking to take a risk.

Philly (Korver, Nailon, Salmons...)
Houston (Bowen and Barry, not sure about #s)
NY (expiring deal or Richardson)
Orlando (Turkoglu)

Indy needs a SF back. They can't roll with Granger if they hope to compete for a title. He was considered the most "ready" rookie in the draft, but all the same replacing Ron's "D" with a significant contribution on either side of the ball is a necessity. Jackson is a lot less effective as a 3.

I have no problem with Artest in Detroit.

It was Stephen Jackson that played the biggest role in inciting the malice at the Palace. Plus a couple of those guys in the stands needed their azzes kicked..

He'd be a great 6th man off our bench, which is why I used McDyess with Evans to make the numbers work. BUT-the Darko/Evans for Artest does work financially as well. I don't believe Bird would take the DMC over McDyess if he's serious about winning it all this year. I think McDyess is a far smarter and safer bet for a team that needs adult floor leadership.

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