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coynejeremy · #21 (**permalink**) 07-24-2008, 12:11 AM

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[i]There are risks leaving the U.S., terrorism aside.

What tremendous foolishness is this? Does the American media really believe the world is a giant suicide bomber pinball machine waiting for someone to venture out into it? Please, somebody tell me I'm taking this out of context.

KGREG · #22 (**permalink**) 07-24-2008, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by roscoe36

Taxation and a US dollar that is leaking value are probably big contributors.

A 3 year 20 million Euro contract where the team also agrees to pay your taxes is HUGE!!!! For Atl to match up to that they would have to pony up a 3 year $40/$45 million dollar deal.

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Originally Posted by BillLaimbeer

I still don't see how a handful of marginal players going to Europe affects the NBA. Sixty players were just drafted. There are probably a hundred others from the NBDL and Europe that will all be fighting for just a couple dozen open roster slots in the entire NBA. No one is going to miss Delfino, Childress, etc.

It creates global competition now, no more old grey club members colluding and playing/paying by their own rules. Again, who would've thought that a Honda Civic & Accord or a Toyota Camry could essentially erradicate Detroit.

TWOTIMESRALPHI · #23 (**permalink**) 07-24-2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by coynejeremy

What tremendous foolishness is this? Does the American media really believe the world is a giant suicide bomber pinball machine waiting for someone to venture out into it? Please, somebody tell me I'm taking this out of context.

I was also hoping there was a bit of irony involved in the phrase you quoted. To think terrorist attacks could occur only in Europe sounds a little bit patriot- act- brainwashed.

raxrets · #24 (**permalink**) 07-24-2008, 07:11 AM

do not blame stern or "abramovich" for such trend. Extremely cheap dollar has made overseas offers lucrative, that is main story.

TheeTFD · #25 (**permalink**) 07-24-2008, 01:16 PM

Ah, terrorism is real, and if hulligans can brawl to the death, it's insecure. Europe is unstable.
Europe is nasty, period.

TaShawn · #26 (**permalink**) 07-24-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by raxrets

do not blame stern or "abramovich" for such trend. Extremely cheap dollar has made overseas offers lucrative, that is main story.

The offer Delfino got was way richer than the weak dollar can explain. It was a multiple of what he would have received here.

raxrets · #27 (**permalink**) 07-24-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TaShawn

The offer Delfino got was way richer than the weak dollar can explain. It was a multiple of what he would have received here.

I remember it vaguely, but still: Dino Radja turned down really lucrative offers at his time just to play in NBA. In Barcelona olympics Dream Team was biggest story: they looked like invincible gods.

For now NBA players aren't saints anymore, "weak and soft" euros ain't afraid of "tough" afroamerican bball players( under FIBA rules). Mystic "aura" of NBA what Dream Team helped to maintain has dissapeared.

KGREG · #28 (**permalink**) 07-24-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TaShawn

The offer Delfino got was way richer than the weak dollar can explain. It was a multiple of what he would have received here.

I dunno, he's getting 3million euros per year, that's $4.5 million in US, I think teams could part with the $3mill, but $4.5mill for Delfino.....All things equal the weak dollar makes an overseas contract very attractive.

mikhail1973 · #29 (**permalink**) 07-24-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KGREG

I dunno, he's getting 3million euros per year, that's $4.5 million in US, I think teams could part with the $3mill, but $4.5mill for Delfino.....All things equal the weak dollar makes an overseas contract very attractive.

Don't forget that European teams manage to play payer's income tax. And that would make it a whole different ballgame. EUR 3 mil is almost $4.8 mil. If you figure 40% tax, you're talking about $8 mil per year that he'd have to make in US to come up with the same money. Who's going to give him that?

KGREG · #30 (**permalink**) 07-24-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mikhail1973

Don't forget that European teams manage to play payer's income tax. And that would make it a whole different ballgame. EUR 3 mil is almost $4.8 mil. If you figure 40% tax, you're talking about $8 mil per year that he'd have to make in US to come up with the same money. Who's going to give him that?

So is that a regular occurance playing overseas?? I thought that they did something special just for Childress, if that's the norm, then it's crazy for 2nd tier players to stay in the NBA. Smart move Josh, your agent is Da BOMB!!!!