Detroit At Phoenix - Nov 10, 2005 - Page 8 - Detroit Pistons Fan Community

ggazoo69 · #71 (**permalink**) 11-11-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TBird

Overall, I thought this was a terrific win. I agree with what I think it was Collins said regarding the fact that Phoenix really has nowhere to go for a big basket at the end. I think that's helping cause the fourth-quarter collapses they're experiencing.

No Stoudamire is really hurting them. Marion has kind of a weird inside/outside thing going a la Sheed, but he doesn't command that much respect in the paint. Active rebounder though.

Slippy · #72 (**permalink**) 11-11-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MainManJoeD

That was beautiful last night. That is exactly the way you play. What's the point of going whole-hog on D for the entire game and wearing yourself out? The difference between us and them (Phoenix and the rest of the league), is we can clamp down for 5 minutes at the end, and they can't. Only the Spurs can do this as well as us. You just have to put the effort in on the offensive side to keep things close, then play rediculous D down the stretch (and it'll be even better D if you haven't been doing it the whole game). Spend the first 3Q figuring out what they're doing on offense, then turn the D it on. They won't be able to make quick adjustments needed to score. This is really the way to do it! Players are happy, fans are happy, and wins are coming without wearing our players down. Only criticism, is that our bench should have logged some serious minutes in 2Q and 3Q last night. As long as they could keep it within 10, they should have been out there.

I've made this same point a couple times before, but haven't managed to get any response. Do y'all agree??

I totally agree with this. you want to see good d the whole game but the pistons should be able to really take their defense up to 11 at key moments.

MotownPride · #73 (**permalink**) 11-11-2005, 11:40 AM

By the way, Ben had a NASSSSSTTTTY put back dunk last night!

Slippy · #74 (**permalink**) 11-11-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthTater

I hear you my man, but if he is going to "re-post" them here he needs to take responsibility for them. IMO the burden is on the Leemeister...he can always take an extra couple of minutes to edit them before reposting to avoid any "misunderstandings".

Besides, it WAS funny!!!

I enjoy reading Lee's posts. I like the detail and the insight. You'll never get that kind of recap off of Fox Sports. It also draws counter opinions.

buddahfan · #75 (**permalink**) 11-11-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by armygirl

What a game by the stones. As I said befre the season began, Flip will be the next Phil Jackson & the Bulls. Phil has the TRIANGLE Offense, Flip has the FLEX Offense. I wouldn't be surprised if we went on a NBA Championship frenzy over the next five years if we can keep all of our core guys intact. Flip is indeed an offensive genious who previously lacked the personnel to really fully appreciate his offensive sets and mastery. Great game, even though it wasn't a blowout, you could really see the Pistons Swagger at the end of the game.

Flipper is not a Zen guy
Flipper does not date the owner's daughter
Flipper does not work in a high profile city

There is only one Zen man among the coaches in the NBA.

Flex offense is not the triangle offense. It is entirely different. Flipper will be Flipper and not the next Zen Meister.

MotownPride · #76 (**permalink**) 11-11-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by buddahfan

Flipper is not a Zen guy
Flipper does not date the owner's daughter
Flipper does not work in a high profile city

There is only one Zen man among the coaches in the NBA.

Flex offense is not the triangle offense. It is entirely different. Flipper will be Flipper and not the next Zen Meister.

Hey Buddah,

I don't think she was trying to say that Flip is Phil reincarnated, just that they both teach great offensive systems effectively that when coupled with the right personnel have potential to lead to many championships.

mercury · #77 (**permalink**) 11-11-2005, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by slippy

I enjoy reading Lee's posts. I like the detail and the insight. You'll never get that kind of recap off of Fox Sports. It also draws counter opinions.

Lee does provide some good insights into the game... it's our job to weed through the biased comments.
For example.... The Euro's and Arroyo rarely ever do anything wrong.
Darko's every move is god like (you should see him in practice).
We have a new whipping boy this year (Evans) until Hunter comes back... Hunter basically always sucks to the worst degree.
Ben should never ever shoot the ball from outside.... you get the jist

Where's Lee's true value as a game analyst come in is with the individual play commentarys... he got a good mind for how players talents should be utilized.

armygirl · #78 (**permalink**) 11-11-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by buddahfan

Flipper is not a Zen guy
Flipper does not date the owner's daughter
Flipper does not work in a high profile city

There is only one Zen man among the coaches in the NBA.

Flex offense is not the triangle offense. It is entirely different. Flipper will be Flipper and not the next Zen Meister.

I wasn't comparing the Triangle Offense to the Flex Offense, just saying they both have their indvidual offensive scheme that they brought to the table. Definitely not comparing the so-called Zen to Flip. Personally, I never liked the guy, Tex Winter was the mastermind behind the triangle. If Jackson wins with the motley crew that he has in LA right now, I may give him some love. The comparison is Phil's ability to win 5? championships with the Bulls after inheriting an almost ready made team and one of the greatest players who ever played the game.

lazyberbs · #79 (**permalink**) 11-11-2005, 01:26 PM

I have to admit, the Pistons showed something last night. They can really turn it on when they want to. But I am wondering if that lock down defense is a thing of the past. Even when we outscored them so well in the fourth, they still got a lot of points. We outscored them, not held them down.

I was sure that Delfino had two threes but neither one of them was a three. That is really a surprise because the announcers and I all saw threes.

They really had their way in driving to the basket at will. Seemed to me that that was Darko's talent, shutting the lane down, and he should have come in ahead of Evans. If they did not use him then, I don't know when they will. If he is to be used with the rookies, I hope they start playing Dale. Same as last year, our three bigs played the whole game with Ben in there 44 minutes. And same as last year, we strolled out to try to bother the three-point shooters with our arms down. Lucky they stopped hitting them with such regularity.

But as usual, our guards came through to bail us out in the clutch.

mercury · #80 (**permalink**) 11-11-2005, 02:45 PM

Lazy, I believe the Suns were averaging 111 PPG.
but I share your concerns about the open path to the basket lately...
That Nash is one crafty SOB.

I hope there's no let down against a rested Blazer team tonight.

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