Ben looks like the Carlisle era Ben. He's totally neglected in the offense. That's IMHO has led to him not setting hard screens, and his defense seems to have dropped off. He's mis-timing his jumps (when he bothers to jump).

If Ben isn't hurt, he's getting hurt in this game plan. Sheed chucking 3s without conscience and no one running a play for Ben. It just ain't right. Chauncey, Rip and Tay aren't even giving Ben a look...

Btw, that baseline ref should be fired. He's blown at least a dozen calls (both ways). He's really just that incompetent.

From what I see on the game cast, the bench ain't helping any.

Guys, you gotta step up!

Dyess, 2 points? 2 rebs in 14 minutes? I can't believe I actually drafted this guy in the fantasy league along with Darko. But they're both dropped now pending their performances. Had high hopes but right now they ain't playing well is an understatement.

Arroyo is doing ok, IMO. Somebody aside from the starters have got to step up. I say put JMax, and Amir in for somebody, Delfino to the IL. Darko get your feet to the shoulders wet, man.

AAuggghhh, damn, I'm having a pretty bad day. Exams, life. Hope the Pistons pull out a win to make it better.

....I just got home and it looks like we'll get a toughee on the road. We got 4 allstar wannnabe's out there with THE allstar. Is Ben really gonna matter if he doesnt get shots or are u just talking about tonight?..my bruddah?

I thought Blaha mentioned Ben was hurt (sprained ankle or something). Maybe that's why.

He does seem to be getting nicked up more the last couple of years. Never misses a game, but not perhaps quite as effective day-in day-out as before as a result.

Well, something ain't right, mah brudder. Ben is playing lousy. He's been abused by Marc Jackson, he can't clean the defensive boards, and the majority of his jumps have been mis-timed.

Now if I had to pick a favorite Piston, it's a toss up between Ben and Sheed, so this isn't hating. He's just playing LOUSY and I think it might be because he is being ignored...

Ben rolled his ankle at the end of the first/beginning of the second quarter. It looked really painful. So that's one reason why he looks a little slow in this game. Plus you add to that the fact that he's already playing on a bad wheel, from when he hurt his foot a few games ago.

I agree, as far as how he looks on the offensive end. There is a big drop-off from last year to this year.

It's always good to have him active on the offensive side of the ball. But it just seems that every time they dump it to him in the post it's like going into a black hole. It just turns out to be a waste of a possession.

I'm not worried about Ben, but I'm going to officially jump on the bandwagon with everyone who has been worrying about the bench. Uggghhh..I almost think they should sign...No...I won't say it..I won't think it...I hate that guy!

by the starters. Outboarded again, though. Major minutes for the starters. Looks a lot like last season. No Delf, no Max, Darko for only 5 minutes. Time to try something else, Flip.

I think Ben is conserving as he gets older. But if UncleCliffy can get 19 minutes, darko should too. We got to get 30-34 minimum minutes from Ben this year...as for the best guards in the league tonight,,,Rip with 30 on ONLY 14 shots/CB with 8 assists and 0 TO'S!!!!! I love my team!