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Just a 10 pt road win against superior team 3 years ago. We passed them and they just ate our dust. You guys post like women before a wedding. Oh, the bench didn't blow them out, and Ben didn't get all the rebounds, what's to become of our team. If Bens on the floor don't get in his way it's his ball. He'll take it from his own players, ask Sheed. Other than that, very good posts.
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Look, some of these issues are trends. No one on the bench is going off. We are getting outboarded (and for those that watch the games occasionally outworked).

The high flying offense and increased production in transition is great. But I'm beginning to wonder if the Pistons have the weapons to compete with the big boys like Dallas and San Antonio.

No, I'm not jumping off the bridge yet but I am concerned. I know this game. I know what I am seeing.
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Just a 10 pt road win against superior team 3 years ago. We passed them and they just ate our dust. You guys post like women before a wedding. Oh, the bench didn't blow them out, and Ben didn't get all the rebounds, what's to become of our team. If Bens on the floor don't get in his way it's his ball. He'll take it from his own players, ask Sheed. Other than that, very good posts.
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We won

I thought that this game would be a loss in the regular season grind. Winning is significant. Winning without playing our best on the road is more significant. 7-1 on the road. The bench problem was there before and it is there now--nothing new. Don't know about Ben's injury. Yes, Ben can be used more on offense but I hope not too much more. Do we want to go back to throwing the ball into Ben early in the clock as we did often last year?
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Don't know about Ben's injury.
He had his foot in a bucket of ice water in the FSN postgame interview and didn't think it was a big deal. We'll see on Friday.

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Yes, Ben can be used more on offense but I hope not too much more. Do we want to go back to throwing the ball into Ben early in the clock as we did often last year?
??? What was wrong with that? It got us to the 7th game of the finals.
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Ben offense

Detroitteam, I hope that the injury is not one of those nagging ones. On Ben's offense, we got to the finals last year but it was a major struggle and eventually we lost. A loss is a loss and we have to adjust. I thought that our offense was ONE of many reasons we lost. We didn't get a lot when we went into Ben so it seemed to me. That wasn't the only reason but our offense stagnated often. By the 4th quarter of the last game at SA, it basically shut down. We made stops but couldn't score. So adjustments in that area seem to be in order. I don't know what the correct mix (Ben's shots) would be but a repeat of last year will probably lead to another loss. Will Flip's adjustments be enough? And can we maintain some defense? I feel positive on those two questions. I don't worry as much about defense in the regular season which is a long marathon. What I do worry is about the bench. The bench needs to improve.
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Look, some of these issues are trends. No one on the bench is going off. We are getting outboarded (and for those that watch the games occasionally outworked).

The high flying offense and increased production in transition is great. But I'm beginning to wonder if the Pistons have the weapons to compete with the big boys like Dallas and San Antonio.

No, I'm not jumping off the bridge yet but I am concerned. I know this game. I know what I am seeing.

I don't know. Have not played any great teams yet. Most of the teams have been good but not the kind of quality Pistons will have to beat in the post-season. It is concerning how so many opponents have been looking like Dennis Rodman on the boards against us. Give up those kind of numbers in the post-season and it will be a short run.

Some tweaking to do but at least the Pistons are padding the wins against teams they are supposed to beat this season.
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another good game coming from the best starting 5 in this league.
But I can't feel happy about wins in which the starters have been overplayed and the bench showed nothing.
None of them was able to produce.
Tay had to play another 40+ game, so did Rip.
On the long run, this is gonna cost the players needed power (remember last years playoffs)
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Ben rolled his ankle at the end of the first/beginning of the second quarter. It looked really painful. So that's one reason why he looks a little slow in this game. Plus you add to that the fact that he's already playing on a bad wheel, from when he hurt his foot a few games ago.

I agree, as far as how he looks on the offensive end. There is a big drop-off from last year to this year.

It's always good to have him active on the offensive side of the ball. But it just seems that every time they dump it to him in the post it's like going into a black hole. It just turns out to be a waste of a possession.
I don't recall this being pointed out before, but it's absolutely true. Ben is quite often a black hole with the ball.

The time to get Ben the ball is when he's been neglected and he has a lane to the basket. Please don't give him the ball (at least not very often) when he's got to create a shot for himself.

Once he starts backing down his defender, the play is over. No one is going to double him, so there is usually no one open that he can pass to. Result, Ben shoots a fade away jumper. I'll take that every time if I'm the opponent.

Give me the back door lobs to Ben, not his post up game. You don't see the spin move and dunk very often.
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None of them was able to produce.
Tay had to play another 40+ game, so did Rip.
On the long run, this is gonna cost the players needed power (remember last years playoffs)
i understand what you're saying, but if you're in your prime and can't play 42 minutes on 3 days rest you shouldn't be in the league. it would be more of an issue if this was a back-to-back, but the Pistons have a plenty of time to recover before Friday.
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