Lee, thanks for the recap. And I agree with pretty much all you said, except that Chauncey was 7-13 from the field, and I'd call it a good shooting percentage for a guard. Can't do much better than that on most nights. Meanwhile Rip missed a lot more than he hit, going 5-20. But defense was pretty bad pretty much all night.

Can you print off the comments from tonights thread and stick it on Flip's chair at halftime? Maybe after reading it he will think twice and insert a couple of bench players in there midway thru the 3rd qtr. Have a good time. Normally when one us is in attendance, the Pistons win.

let's face it- Flip won't get it done. For years, we've been seeing the same thing over and over. He has real problems to create good rotations that play good together. He only trusts his starters, especially if games get close and he doesn't care if they got worn out, as long as his regular season looks good. Yes, the Pistons are still one of the elite teams in this league- but there are enough reasons to worry if they're a real contender.

Good Leecap Mr 356/357 Is it possible we can get those "rotations" to Joe so he can filter them down to Flip. This guy is killing us before we can get out of the block. Yeah we are 5-2, will lose a few games and should be happy. But there is no reason why the Pistons shouldn't be 7-0.

I would have no issues if we were 5-2 and those 2 losses were the Spurs, Mavs,Rockets, Jazz or Suns as we still have work to do. But to lose games this early in the season to the Blazers and Bulls because you are afraid to insert and train bench players falls right into the last two years unsuccessful playbook.

Now that is funny. I don't think this game is going to make 'Ol Nazr's highlight reel.

Is there a weaker player in the L than Rip? As he missed his first layup of the game the Portland announcers were saying " there is Hamilton doing what he does" and I was thinking yes he is - he's missing layups. At least no one landed on his head this time. I almost hit the floor laughing when he missed his 3rd wide open layup with 19 seconds to go in the game. Portland had totally backed off so they wouldn't foul by this point. I think half the WNBA could hit an 'and 1' against him.

The Pistons offense has zero flow to it. They had some nice movement early going to Sheed inside and getting jumpers off of that. That is the exception.

Watch how many times DET is on D and they have two guys confused and rotating out to the ball leaving another wide open. I am sure the DET News will tell me this is the players fault.

CB only played 32-33 minutes.

Does he even have a playbook?
Flip - We're going to work on this play tonight:
Chauncey passes the ball to Rip. Everyone just stand and watch him taking a forced jumper.

Guess what? You're actually wrong on this one. Our good friend McCoskey is all over Rip in this game:

Have to agree on the mins in this one. 41 a piece for Sheed and Tay is too much. 39 for Rip when he just played 41 the other game. Plus Billups and Dyess are banged up and we have another game Wed night.

Portland is tough at home. They look like an older version of the Sonic team, old enough not to fold down the stretch.

Well I'll be a horse's behind. I guess it's like Sheed says, 'The sun shines on a dogs butt once in a while.'

Enjoy the game tomorrow.

losing is not something that worries me. We will lose at least 25 - 30 games in the season. what worries me is that we lose such games while our starters play those heavy minutes. Now CB and Mcdice are both hurt. Thanks Flip, way to go for the rest of the season