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Old 11-25-2007, 08:45 PM
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Boozer never took it inside. He just had wide open shots all day long, so it was not necessary for him to make a move inside.
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Re: Utah Nov 25 1PM

another thing that may have gone unnoticed to the tv viewers...there were lots of times where we'd push inside and not get a call, and then while 1-3 of our guys were complaining to the refs, utah was pushing it in transition and getting easy baskets. they particularly took advantage when one of our guys fell down (attempting to draw the foul, and in some cases this was justified but not called), or inbounding the ball.

i'd say they got anywhere from 5-10 baskets from this tactic alone.
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i'd say they got anywhere from 5-10 baskets from this tactic alone.

10-20 points??

Really?
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Re: Utah Nov 25 1PM

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Just noticed a really disturbing stat. Boozer was 17 for 20, and only took 2 fts.

Either the refs were completely biased, and didn't call any fouls against the Pistons, or from what I saw' we played zero D against him, and were never close enough to foul him.
Kgreg explained this pretty well. Scroll back and read his post.
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10-20 points??

Really?
maybe not 20, but at least 10. i specifically counted 2 off of quick in-bounds, and 3 more when we were complaining about calls or lying on the ground and outmanned 4 on 5. there's a good chance i missed others.
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Re: Utah Nov 25 1PM

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Boozer never took it inside. He just had wide open shots all day long, so it was not necessary for him to make a move inside.
Boozer scored more right at the basket on pick and rolls than anything.
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Re: Utah Nov 25 1PM

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Boozer scored more right at the basket on pick and rolls than anything.
Actually, the breakdown of Boozer's shots show that less than half of his baskets were right at the basket:

8 layups
3 from 16-feet
1 from 18-feet
3 from 19-feet
1 from 20-feet
1 from 21-feet
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Re: Utah Nov 25 1PM

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Actually, the breakdown of Boozer's shots show that less than half of his baskets were right at the basket:

8 layups
3 from 16-feet
1 from 18-feet
3 from 19-feet
1 from 20-feet
1 from 21-feet
Thanks Bill. The Pistons still can't allow one player to get 8 layup attempts??? What happen to halftime defensive adjustments??? looks like he made at least 7 of those layups...
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What happen to halftime defensive adjustments???
Players: It's a war out there. Without Sheed, how do we stop Boozer and Okur, coach?

Flip: Stop Boozer? Stop Okur? Stop worrying bout it. They can't be makin 100% of their shots all the time. They are a jump shooting team. They are bound to miss some of their shots soon. This is what I've plan for the 2nd half, everyone take out my playbook, study plays 201 - 205. This 5 plays will win us this game, all you got to do is make your shots. Make them and we will win this game at the end of the 3rd quarter. By then, Amir, Samb and Affalo will get to play.
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Re: Utah Nov 25 1PM

Stop jading yourselves. The coaching staff did not lose this one. If your guards can not keep their guards out of the paint, then you ain't gonna win. This is also why we can not beat SA, if you can't stay in front of Williams you sure as hell can't stay in front of Parker and Manu. On top of all that, if your guards (who can't stop dribble penetration) make dumb decisions on the offensive end of the court that ends up in them taking horrible jumpers, then you ain't gonna win.

Again, I really don't think that Flip is a bad coach. I DO believe emphatically that he is a bad coach for this team. Everybody used to complain that LB rode this team too hard, that they were a veteran team that could win without all that yelling and crap, they said they'd play better with a players-coach.......BULLCRAP. Rip and Chuancey need a coach to ride them and make them give their all on the court. Both of their games are really starting to suffer under Flip. Rip was a complete player that did not need the ball to have an impact. Billups would get you around 20 and only need 10-12 shots to do it. Now they hog the dang ball and suffocate their teammates games (look at the shot clock when Billups finally relinquishes the ball). Has anyone noticed that Dyess really has that jumper going?? Yet the guards still see him as the 5th option??? Notice how when Tay gets the ball he's been really delivering, yet he's an after thougt to Batman and Robin. I said it before and I'll continue to say it, Rip and Chauncey are the new Mobley and Cuttino. Bring Rip off the Bench!!!!!!!!! The bench really needs a consistent-veteran-perimeter scorer to give it a boost, as we have seen Hayes and Flip are OK, but they don't fit that bill.
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