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Well done, Micro, but there is something wrong though. the contracts of Mo Evans and D. Davies won't raise will still be 1.5M and 3.5M, as I know...

I think if we signed a player with MLE, there is no way that Delk will stay, it is said that he will opt out the contract. And if Delk stay, Delfino will like to be traded, because he will no time to play.

Ben's contract with MAX raise will be way to much. Will the contract be full 10.5% raise if it start with 12M. Actually, I think it will be a 53M 3+1 contract.

As MLE contract, like Evans', is 3 years, 4.5M, so, if we count it 1.5M for first year, it will be 1.5M per year, too. As I know, we give DD 7M 2 year contract, it will be 3.5M per year, or the first year with 3,365,384$ then 2nd year will be 3,64616$. It depends on how the contract going.

There is another situation the contract can go, degrading. we can offer Ben the most of the money of the contract for the first year, then degrading every year. For example, 14M for first year, then 13.5, 13, 12.5, etc. It's good for us to sign Chauncey, if we still want him.

As for over Lux cap, I think Joe may over the cap a little more with the MLE signed with a legit PG, or Wells(though I don't want him). But for over the cap with 5M, no way. if you are under cap, you can earn some money from other teams over the cap; if you are over the cap, you pay. if one team can receive 2M when under the cap, the team will actually lose 7M if the team over the cap with 5M.

As for the Lux cap, I don't think it will stay at 61M every year, we can actually assume the cap will increase 3~5M per year, till the Market full.

Thanks Kolay! You've got a lot of knowledge.

There are different reported contract amounts, however I chose to use the ones that made the most sense under the CBA and based on history. As far as I can tell, Joe has always built raises into his deals, and there is no reason to believe he would not do the same for Davis or Evans. Hence why I used StroyTeller's numbers with the increases.

The Ben degrading contract is interesting. I do not think anyone has ever taken a degrading contract before, and I am not sure that Ben would be happy to be the first.

Losing $7 million. That is a simple way to look at it. Shares to teams under the cap of the luxury tax are 1/30th (based on 30 teams). Then the remainder is either used by the league (for special funding purposes) or returned EQUALLY to the teams.

Very few teams are under the cap during the year, and traditionally, the league redistributes the money to the owners. So even if you are over the cap, you can still get luxury tax shares. And of course, the higher league salaries, the more likely that escrow will be triggered.

The Cap and Tax Threshold will fluctuate each year, but $3~5 million may be a bit much. Both #s are based on Basketball Related Income. If something should happen to reduce league revenue, then the cap and tax levels would sink. For the sake of simplicity, I used constant values BECAUSE, there is no reason to believe that BRI will jump up in a big way over the next 3 years.

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They are the archetype for dominance. They are the gatekeepers of the conference. They are the Detroit Pistons.

There are two links about Tony Battie's V-contract,

http://0rz.net/291kZ

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=502590

not degrading, but a "V" shape contract.

about degrading, it's just a total number. I don't think there is any different with increaing salary, it's the same number. Just a thought...

According to the report, the salary cap of 04-05 was 43.87M, this is 48 of the BRI, if we change to lux cap 61%, it's 55.75M. As for the Lux cap of 05-06, it's about 61M. So, according to this, I said it will increase about 3~5M.

sorry for the last post, there is some misuse about the cap, I mean the Lux cap....

That's a good point Kolay, but remember that the CBA was re-negotiated between those two years. We should see a more consistent cap and tax threshold now because it is fixed at 51% and 61%. The only way the cap and tax thresholds can increase is if league revenue also goes up.

The jump you see is in large part due to the difference betwen 48% and 51% of BRI.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#10 ~ Salary Cap

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#16 ~ Luxury Tax

My numbers of $51 and $61 are simply baselines. Rather than over-estimate I chose to go with more conservative #s. We can't assume that league revenues will go up every year. At some point, they will start to level off, even if only for a brief period.

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They are the archetype for dominance. They are the gatekeepers of the conference. They are the Detroit Pistons.

Thanks Micro, yes the salary cap and Lux cap should be re-evaluated, not just for this two year. I am just a little positive

There is still another way to build Ben's salary according to his performances. Some "no likely to be achieved" performances like rebounding title, block title, or MVP, etc. By the type of this bonus, Joe can negotiate with Ben with a little low salary.

Those are good ideas Kolay. A V contract, or building in bonuses. If I am a player, I want guaranteed money, not incentives, but if the Pistons guarantee enough, and the incentives are sweet, maybe Ben will be interested!

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They are the archetype for dominance. They are the gatekeepers of the conference. They are the Detroit Pistons.

I think this is the best sight for all the information on the Pistons. the microwave is the man and I think that you should be considered for a 10 minute radio spot as a piston guru. You are excellent at what you do, and the time and dedication is unlike any other. I hope that a higher up will recognize and give you props.

Great job Micro - as always!