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Old 10-14-2005, 08:40 AM
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By the way, I really enjoy your breakdowns of the games. They are very enlightning and appear to be dead on. Thanks, bruh. Much appreciated.
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I second what Motown said. Your recaps are far better than what is generally posted on detnews.com
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good recap

I agree with MotownPride and ggazoo. I watched the game and LanierFan's summary described it incredibly well. Especially the debris and dead bodies in JMax's wake. He is the enforcer many were asking for last season. I don't think you even have to send him in with a mission.

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The Bad

LanierFan pretty much hit the nail on the head with his posts. But ol'KGREG still has to put in his 2 cents.

A few rushed jumpshots by Delfino and Evans early in the shot clock.

Carlos Arroyo......not really bad, but not really good either, he's doing a POOR job of orchestrating this offense. Last night he shot really well, but he still has a tendency to dominate the ball during the shot clock leaving only one option to be ran on offense. LB harped on Arroyo wanting to make THE play, when alot of times it's very effective to make the pass that leads to the assist. He just doesn't seem to get it. Start the offense early and give the ball up, cut through, set pick, flash and get it back. In Flips offense their is alot of player movement that is dependent on ball movement also.

Darko could have had 15 rebs if he'll start going after the ball with a vengeance the way, Ben, J-Max and MoEvans do. Sometimes he reaches instead of grabbing. But I'm confident that it'll come in time.

Delfino can't shoot.......sorry guys. Hope he turns it around, but dude is a brick layer under Union Contract, real good slasher though, but he can't shoot free throws either?!?!?!?!?

The 2nd unit for a moment got caught up running up and down the court at times and failed to take of the boards and ball, gave up many off rebs and had too many TO's.

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Old 10-14-2005, 09:28 AM
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The Good

Carlos Arroyo, shot the ball VERY well, had some sweet passes that didn't get converted to assists.

Carlos Delfino, great in the open court, had a few nice dishes. Solid on defense, by no means a stopper but it seems as if he's lost the concrete Nike's and matador mentality.

MoEvans, dude is strong as hell, he's so frikking tough it's rediculous. If he was 6'7" instead of 6'5", his contract would have been 5x's as much as it is now. Underestimating his ability to play the wing because of his height is about as bad as those that underestimated Barkley and Ben for the same reasons.

Darko, darn near a double-double. Darko has alot of skills alot players just don't have. This year he will just get better and better, when he realizes what he can do on the court with his size and skills, he will be a real plus for this team.

J-Max, LMAO, another strong bully, sometimes it's ugly but he's effective, really gets after it. AJ, scrawny little runt....but not afraid to get inside and stick his young butt in the mix......and to have a jumper as ugly as he's got, he's not gun shy......go ahead young fella.
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:32 AM
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The tough unit

PG: Chauncey
SG: Moevans
SF: AJ
PF: Jmax
C: Ben

Now AJ may be Scrawny, but he's like that little runt that no matter what type of beat down he's getting, he'll just keep coming back....you gotta kill him to stop him.
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tough unit

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PG: Chauncey
SG: Moevans
SF: AJ
PF: Jmax
C: Ben

Now AJ may be Scrawny, but he's like that little runt that no matter what type of beat down he's getting, he'll just keep coming back....you gotta kill him to stop him.
I remember once reading a quote from Sheed about Ben and rebounding that said something to the effect of, "he's beating me up for rebounds and I'm on the same team!" The tough unit might have some Piston-on-Piston casualties. Despite that risk, it'd be fun to see the looks on the other teams' faces.

I was also surprised to see AJ mixing it up, because he looks so scrawny. LOL at your "you gotta kill him to stop him."
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The, good, the bad, the tough

Good stuff.

I can't wait to finally see my boys play so I can really weigh in on this discussion. Until then, I will just have store all this info I'm receiving from my fellow Pistons brethren and reserve my real opinions until I can see the future champs play for myself. Come on NBA League Pass package, hook a brotha up with some preseason games! ..and why aren't there any Pistons preseason games on NBATV?

A brotha is about to have a nervous breakdown over here.

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Listened to the game on the radio. I don't have digital cable where I live so I can't get NBA League Pass. Anyway, it sounded as if the three ball could be a big part of the offense this season if things continue the way they are. They shot 12 last night. I'm wondering if the offense should mix it up a little to keep the defense honest. If the Pistons completely abandon the post-up game, I think it's a mistake. Hopefully, Flip will look at the matchups from game to game and tailor an effective offense.
shooting 12 3's is mixing it up to keep the defense honest. last year we didn't shoot the 3 so teams were able to pack it in on us. this year we can shoot the 3 and extend the defense. this year we probably won't have a traditional post up game. but we are getting great low post positions of movement. darko didn't shoot outside the paint. we never had a post up game anyway. why do people keep talking about abandoning the post and we never had a post up oriented offense anyway.
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Carlos Arroyo......not really bad, but not really good either, he's doing a POOR job of orchestrating this offense. Last night he shot really well, but he still has a tendency to dominate the ball during the shot clock leaving only one option to be ran on offense. LB harped on Arroyo wanting to make THE play, when alot of times it's very effective to make the pass that leads to the assist. He just doesn't seem to get it. Start the offense early and give the ball up, cut through, set pick, flash and get it back. In Flips offense their is alot of player movement that is dependent on ball movement also.
i know this sounds crazy but i think the dos los backcourt will maybe switch roles offensively this season. delfino will rack up the assists and arroyo will start scoring. i like arroyo in the pick and roll though. flip should run different sets when arroyo is at the point. that chemistry with mcdyess simply can't be denied.

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Darko could have had 15 rebs if he'll start going after the ball with a vengeance the way, Ben, J-Max and MoEvans do. Sometimes he reaches instead of grabbing. But I'm confident that it'll come in time.
yes. i agree darko could have had more boards than he had. i think one time i even saw flip saunders motioning with his hands for darko to use 2 hands to get the rebound. but i am still happy with the rebounding improvement darko is showing. darko is very talented but when he really realizes that he is bigger and stronger than pretty much everybody he goes up against he's going to be a beast.


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Delfino can't shoot.......sorry guys. Hope he turns it around, but dude is a brick layer under Union Contract, real good slasher though, but he can't shoot free throws either?!?!?!?!?
i think delfino can shoot. i think he's more of a volume shooter or a streak shooter. needs plenty of shots to get his shot going. he does have range though and his shot will come around.
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