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Old 10-23-2005, 08:34 PM
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What's this "we" stuff? I missed your recap and video contribution. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth bro.
So, I deserve no answer, because I gave no contribution?? My fault. Where can I send my donation so I don't get slammed when I ask a question?? (That's prolly what the Pistons say when they read the forums..."What is all this WE ish??!!)

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That articles sheds some serious insight into the the state of the Heat right now. Reading between the lines, it seems that D Wade is extremely unhappy having to be the 2 guard. The question is, if they do start putting the ball in his hands as the PG, who does that leave at the 2? PAyton and J Will cant shoot, and maybe they throw Posey as the 2 and Walker the 3? Either way, the Pistons should feast on those mismatches.
Wade was pretty excited to get JWill on the team. He said Jason is a good point guard and knows how to get people the ball. It sounded like a dis to Damon Jones. He now has to figure on how to make his team mates better, since he is considered to be an All Star ball player. He thinks it's Shaq's job.
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So, I deserve no answer, because I gave no contribution?? My fault. Where can I send my donation so I don't get slammed when I ask a question??
No, my point was not to slam you but it takes time to generate the content you crave. You might want to consider that people do it when they can and when they can't, that's life. No point in complaining about the lack of coverage.

In the meantime, feel free to make your contribution if you feel the site is lacking info. I'd like to think we are doing a helluva job WITHOUT donations/advertising and a staff consisting entirely of volunteers.
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Old 10-23-2005, 09:56 PM
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No, my point was not to slam you but it takes time to generate the content you crave. You might want to consider that people do it when they can and when they can't, that's life. No point in complaining about the lack of coverage.

In the meantime, feel free to make your contribution if you feel the site is lacking info. I'd like to think we are doing a helluva job WITHOUT donations/advertising and a staff consisting entirely of volunteers.
I didn't take what you said too hard, because WE say "We won, we aquired, we let go, Our bench is getting better", and things like that when we really don't give any physical contribution. But what we are, are good fans. In saying that, I am a fan of this site. So, are we getting bored with the preseason??
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:06 PM
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Watched the game again

Man, am I ever disappointed in Evans as far as his ability to cover Wade. Just flat out none. Now, Wade only shot 4-11 in the game, but he got to the free throw a ton vs. Evans. We are simply lucky Wade could not hit a free throw. Anyway, every time Wade made any move on Evans, he lost Evans instantly. Way too easy. On the other hand, Evans did manage to stay physical with Wade quite a lot. Maybe this helped some? Its a stretch. Right now I say cut Dupree and get Hunter ready to play against Miami. (This assumes Miami is still seen as a threat-they do have issues. And the problem is that if we keep Hunter for the playoffs, we have to leave a pretty darn good player off the roster. And its probably Mo Evans believe it or not.)

On the rewatch, the defense of Darko looked even better than at first glance. Lots of opposing players missing from altering their shots. Likewise, I liked the job Dale Davis did more the 2nd look. Now, Shaq did score on Davis too much, but there were good defensive sequences in there where Shaq did not try to score on Davis. We don't focus on these as much since the camera is always on the ball. And Davis' rebounding does look very solid. Davis did foul Shaq once and send him to the line, the most effective defense on Shaq quite often. And Dale Davis had a body on the guy, making him work, a large percentage of the time. Shaq did look like he got tired at the end of the 3rd quarter, so maybe things were working at least ok.

And here is a thought. With Davis giving us depth, the way to beat Miami is to simply let Darko come in to guard Shaq, and stay on him until Darko fouls out. Even if this means sitting Ben or Sheed real early. Now once Darko fouls out, Sheed and Ben take turns guarding Shaq. They will of course get into foul trouble but Davis then comes into the picture and we are ok.

I closely watched Arroyo's decision making. The best yet this preseason. We started the 4th at an 11 for 14 clip with Arroyo continually making sharp, quick decisions. His nice pass to Dyess for a score inside was the icing on the cake. (One of three buckets Dyess got in quick order off passes from Arroyo. Lots of people noticed the good connection last season.)

Delfino is just plain looking good out there. The scary thing is that this is just preseason and Delfino is nowhere near mid-season form, especially having just come off an injury.

I predict we will see more of Maxiell the next couple of games as Sheed has some tendinitis going on in the knee. (Or maybe Dale Davis will get extensive burn.)

Amir Johnson very impressively took down an offensive rebound. (One of three bounds in his 4 minutes.) The other team had a body on him, or two. But he waited until just the right moment, shot up and snatched that puppy with perfect timing. Despite being bodied up, he kept moving toward that rebound. Showed no fear of mixing up inside to get a bound.

The Heat never played without either Wade or Shaq in the 2nd quarter. We used all bench players and held our own. In the 4th, some starters played into the 4th, but soon it was our usual bench of Arroyo, Delfino, Evans, Dyess, and Darko. This was now vs. their bench. Payton, Kapono, Posey, Haslem, Mourning. Our bench slaughtered theirs. No contest. They might have got, what 2 buckets as we ran the lead to about 22.

Scouting Miami a bit. Yes, Walker still loves to shoot too much. But Shaq wants all the shots. But Williams wants all the shots. But Wade wants all the shots. Result? Shaq gets his shots and the rest of them throw up a crazy shot once in a while thinking they got to get theirs. No movement when Shaq has the ball. And the least impressive guy out there is Posey. Showed nothing.

Our starters look pretty darn good. They had about a 21-14 lead when a couple of our starters came off the floor. Sheed does an amazing job keeping Walker from scoring anything. Posey is nothing vs. Tay, on either end. Rip scored well while staying on Wade very well. CB is still knocking down threes and getting inside, despite nursing that sore back. Ben on Shaq? Not pretty. In a close game, Ben must refrain from shooting any shots away from the basket. We can't afford it. Crowd, never cheer for Ben to shoot that long shot. He is going to miss it far too often.

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Old 10-23-2005, 10:10 PM
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I didn't take what you said too hard, because WE say "We won, we aquired, we let go, Our bench is getting better", and things like that when we really don't give any physical contribution. But what we are, are good fans. In saying that, I am a fan of this site. So, are we getting bored with the preseason??
By "we" I (mis?)understood you to be asking why "we" are not kicking out the def jams for this game. If we can get enough people contributing to every game, we will have amazing content almost daily.

I don't think people are bored with the preseason yet. It's just very time consuming to get video and write recaps.

No hard feelings bro.
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:03 AM
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Did you guys see Shaq . . .

. . . say, "WOW", when Delfino skied for the putback on the missed free throw? I thought that was pretty neat. He was impressed.

And I agree; Shaq wasted some of his millions by taking less to get more guys. They still can play only five at a time and their five can't match ours. No way! No time! They cannot beat us in a series.
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just got around to watching it now. i don't think evans did a bad job on wade, he got physical with him and made him uncomfortable. wade didn't really show up for the game now...he looks lost. i think wade wants the ball in his hands and to be a PG, but now they have jwilliams and gpayton for that, and wade doesn't know what to do. it looks like the heat added players without any thought of the positions they'd play, time they shared on the court, etc.

whenever shaq had the ball the heat stopped moving around. posey and williams were nothing special, and walker just got abused by rasheed. complete mismatch come playoff time with those two. darko played good D on sheed and had that sweet slam over mourning, delfino finally got his free throw putback, and mcdyess was nailin down jumpers with ease.

most impressively our bench outscored there's something like 41-15. almost half our total points from the bench, nice. davis did great rebounding. not much else to say.
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:36 AM
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Did I read Lee's post wrong?

did he say And "Mo Evans" would be the one left off the roster. One ESPN guy thinks he might win 6th man award. Maybe I read it wrong, it is after midnight.
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:59 AM
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Lee on guarding wade and Shaq

lee, couldn't see the game in LA but I think you got it right about guarding Shaq--maybe do it by committee. Not good news about Evans on Wade. I hope that he can guard Wade some. But if he can't, you are right, Hunter would probably come back.
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