Fantasy 08-09 Building Thread

[Superstarov]

I'd like to see game winning goals come back.

I think we could lump SHG and SHA into SHP. And the same with power play stuff too. It won't really change your stats much, but it'll give us less categories to win/lose.

I think we could possibly change from C, C, w, w, w, w to just 6 wingers. As long as we keep faceoff stats in the categories, people will still be encouraged to play/pick C's. But it'd give more flexibility on those nights when you don't have any C's playing, and you have to scratch a playing winger.

I would like to limit the number of roster moves. Is 40 too low?

I don't know if the commish tools will allow you to dictate that you carry a certain number of d-men. If everyone agrees to this, we could discipline with public humiliation for violators.

Since our league tends to be more scoring based, Darth and I had removed penalty minutes, but that's open for debate. To me, penalty minutes just don't seem like something to be proud of, because they ultimately put your team on the PK.

I'll try to keep an eye out here and keep track of what the concensus is.

Please add your thoughts.

[Darth Tater]

Originally Posted by Superstarov

I'd like to see game winning goals come back.

Agree. As many cats as possible, I say.

I think we could lump SHG and SHA into SHP. And the same with power play stuff too. It won't really change your stats much, but it'll give us less categories to win/lose.

Disagree. I like those cats.

I think we could possibly change from C, C, w, w, w, w to just 6 wingers. As long as we keep faceoff stats in the categories, people will still be encouraged to play/pick C's. But it'd give more flexibility on those nights when you don't have any C's playing, and you have to scratch a playing winger.

Strongly disagree. Why burden us with 4 defensemen yet take out the Centers? I'd rather take out a defensemen or two and give the option of using a C or a W. I like the scoring.

I would like to limit the number of roster moves. Is 40 too low?

Agree... but how about 45?

I don't know if the commish tools will allow you to dictate that you carry a certain number of d-men. If everyone agrees to this, we could discipline with public humiliation for violators.

Disagree. No to public humiliation unless nothing else works. We won't need it in hockey. Not with these guys!

Since our league tends to be more scoring based, Darth and I had removed penalty minutes, but that's open for debate. To me, penalty minutes just don't seem like something to be proud of, because they ultimately put your team on the PK.

Yeah, but you know, it would be another cat. I'm ok either way on that.

I'll try to keep an eye out here and keep track of what the concensus is.

Please add your thoughts.

Good thread idea!

[Superstarov]

Realistically, we can blow up the model here and start from scratch.

The more input we get the better.

Can anyone other than Tater or I say that they will for sure be in next season?

Aside from that the issues so far are:
1. GWG
2. Merge SHA & SHG to SHP. Do same with PPG & PPA.
3. Removing C's from the line up and switching to 6 W's.
4. Limit roster moves, and to what number.
5. Number of d-men.
6. PIM

I also don't like how the last match-up of the playoffs is 2 weeks long. But I don't know if you can change that. I think it's because the very last week of the season doesn't end on a Sunday.

One person will be the "Commish", but it's all of our league, so we might as well address any concerns.

Anyone know anything about "hold em" leagues? Never done one before. What happens if someone drops out? I'm proposing this, I've always kind of wondered how they work.

[Darth Tater]

Originally Posted by Superstarov

Anyone know anything about "hold em" leagues? Never done one before. What happens if someone drops out? I'm proposing this, I've always kind of wondered how they work.

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I'd love to try a keeper league!!!

[Superstarov]

Thanks for those links, I'll check them out on my lunch hour tomorrow.

How's this solution:

Go with C,C,W,W,W,W,W,W,D,D,D,D,G,G,.

Increase the roster size, so that you have more players on your team, and then bump the max moves up to 50 or 60 to allow for the extra players. That way you may be more willing to hold onto a player that is struggling, or a young player that has potential.

That way we could mandate 4 d-men and you can still get plenty of stats from forwards. I like keeping the d-men simply because they do contribute something, and it makes good ones more valuable.

[Darth Tater]

Originally Posted by Superstarov

Thanks for those links, I'll check them out on my lunch hour tomorrow.

How's this solution:

Go with C,C,W,W,W,W,W,W,D,D,D,D,G,G,.

Increase the roster size, so that you have more players on your team, and then bump the max moves up to 50 or 60 to allow for the extra players. That way you may be more willing to hold onto a player that is struggling, or a young player that has potential.

That way we could mandate 4 d-men and you can still get plenty of stats from forwards. I like keeping the d-men simply because they do contribute something, and it makes good ones more valuable.

Works for me, but that's a lot of wingers. I would suggest adding a C slot and subtracting a wing. Or also adding another Center with the wings. If we do this, though, we need to keep the league at ten teams max, most likely.

I also think 10 extra moves (rather than 20) is enough for the two extra positions because proportionately, people were talking about giving 40 or 45 for 12 players which is around 3.5 per player).

[Superstarov]

Yeah, I agree, 10 teams max. 8 would even be fine if interest is low.

The W can be a C. I mean you can put a C in a W spot, it just doesn't work the other way around.

[BillLaimbeer]

Originally Posted by Superstarov

The W can be a C. I mean you can put a C in a W spot, it just doesn't work the other way around.

Really????

[jammertime]

Originally Posted by BillLaimbeer

Really????

I second that.

REALLY???? I had no idea you could do that????

[jammertime]

Originally Posted by Superstarov

Realistically, we can blow up the model here and start from scratch.

The more input we get the better.

Can anyone other than Tater or I say that they will for sure be in next season?

Aside from that the issues so far are:
1. GWG
2. Merge SHA & SHG to SHP. Do same with PPG & PPA.
3. Removing C's from the line up and switching to 6 W's.
4. Limit roster moves, and to what number.
5. Number of d-men.
6. PIM

I also don't like how the last match-up of the playoffs is 2 weeks long. But I don't know if you can change that. I think it's because the very last week of the season doesn't end on a Sunday.

One person will be the "Commish", but it's all of our league, so we might as well address any concerns.

Anyone know anything about "hold em" leagues? Never done one before. What happens if someone drops out? I'm proposing this, I've always kind of wondered how they work.

I'm in for sure next season. I would LOVE to try a keeper league. I've never been in one and would love to give it a shot.

My thoughts on the topics:
1. GWG - I have no problem bringing this one back.

2. Merge SHA & SHG to SHP. Do same with PPG & PPA. - I'd be fine with this, but I'm also fine with them split up as they are now.

3. Removing C's from the line up and switching to 6 W's. - I'd rather keep the 2 C positions and change the RW and LW to 4 W and add a forward spot or two. That gives maximum flexibility IMO. I wouldn't want to add additional forward spots though. That would put too much emphasis on forwards and make D-men even more of a liability.

4. Limit roster moves, and to what number - My position on this subject is well documented and we've pretty much already agreed to a roster limit for next season. Anywhere from 25-55 would be fine with me. I think 40 would be a fair #.

5. Number of d-men - Four was ok, but going down to 3 would provide greater depth of free agent d-men. I'm against forcing teams to have D-men though. I think thats all part of the strategy. Just like I wouldn't force a team to have a goalie. If someone wants to go goalieless, that's fine with me.

6. PIM - I HATE this stat. I would not want to see it added. It is completely contrary to every other stat in the game.

Other stuff:
I'd also like to see the roster size increased by 2 (ish) and the rosters locked at the start of the playoffs. Dance with the ones that brought you. Adding a few roster spots would help to offset any injuries during the playoffs.

There was something else I wanted to add, but I can't remember now....