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roscoe36
01-21-2006, 05:28 PM
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Sunday January 22nd, 6:00pm
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jzchen
01-22-2006, 10:22 AM
All we need to to do is D up real well on T'Mac and we should be 33-5. T'Mac may stil be nursing his back injury, so he should be takin a lot of jumpers instead of penetrating. With Prince and giving Delfino a chance to D up on him, he should be below 40% shooting in the game.

Would love to see Flip give the Serbian Gangsta another chance to go at Mutombo. Hope this time Darko will block a few more shots from Mutombo himself.

ggazoo69
01-22-2006, 10:35 AM
I noticed that Tay doesn't look very enthusiastic in his mug shot up there. I hope he's not turning in to Darko. :laugh:

jammertime
01-22-2006, 12:57 PM
I noticed that Tay doesn't look very enthusiastic in his mug shot up there. I hope he's not turning in to Darko. :laugh:

Its all about takin' care of business GG! Goin' to work, punchin' the clock is serious stuff.

Houston is leading in teeth bearing smiles 5-2 according to those mug shots. But when it matters on the court, its 32-5 to 13-25. :eyebrows:

roscoe36
01-22-2006, 06:21 PM
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lazyberbs
01-22-2006, 06:27 PM
I have never tried to get to GameChat before. Is this it? This is what came up when I clicked GameChat into the Search box.

jammertime
01-22-2006, 06:32 PM
I have never tried to get to GameChat before. Is this it? This is what came up when I clicked GameChat into the Search box.

Click on "Chat" in the top right corner next to "Log Out".

Zoso
01-22-2006, 07:23 PM
I have never tried to get to GameChat before. Is this it? This is what came up when I clicked GameChat into the Search box.

Click here (http://www.pistonsforum.com/chat/flashchat.php), lazy and the chat window will open up.

clingman
01-22-2006, 09:09 PM
so did Prince have a bad game or was Evens playing that well?

looked like Prince was in foul trouble in the first half, but what about the second... looked like Evens played till almost the last minute.

I guess some of the Coach bashing will start to fall away, the bench is getting more burn in crunch time.... Or now do we complain the game is too close.... GRIN

Lee356
01-22-2006, 09:13 PM
We'll subtitle this one the team that would not go away. Houston, playing shorthanded, kept getting into foul trouble, but they just kept playing, hitting shots, and making this a most entertaining game. Ryan Bowen left the game early with an irregular heartbeat. Lets hope he is ok.

Our bench was a definite factor in this win. Delfino hit that 3. He played a bit on McGrady, did not do great, and picked up some fouls. But it all helped. Lots of guys took turns guarding TMAC here and there. Arroyo was in the game at the only time of the game we managed to get a bit of a lead, 7 points. (He came in with the game tied or us up by 1.) Dyess did nothing much. Hit one shot. But he as usual played enough minutes to keep our two starting bigs rested.

Mo Evans had a fine game. He was as effective as anyone guarding TMAC, did some good board work, hit a triple, and got to the line for some points. Darn it though, he missed some free throws or I'd upgrade that from fine game to great game. Hey, its not that he did a great job on TMAC, but he did an ok job on him, which is more than most. He was given a simple duty, stay with TMAC as best he could and bother that shot. He did it well enough.

Billups must have missed a hundred shots in this one. Thats what it seemed like at least. He had a triple early and lots of points from the line. But man he missed a lot of shots.

Sheed did some damage in the post. Rip, CB, Sheed, and Tay all had early triples but then the shots quit falling. We scored somewhere around 30 points a the line, the biggest factor in winning this one.

Ben got yet another dunk off a pass from Rip off a pick and roll. Been happening once a game for quite a stretch now. Ben also hit a jumper early when they left him open, and made some of his free throws at least.

At times we were owning the boards, but Houston also managed to clean the defensive glass for stretches when it seemed they were way to short to compete with us. Scrappy play, a lot of it by TMAC.

Can't call this a good game by Prince, as he did not do a lot of scoring, and he had terrible luck guarding TMAC. Flip sat him until just a minute and a half to go in the game. Prince responded with a timely defensive play on TMAC.

The game was inches away from being a Houston victory. Head hit a triple to get them to within 1. Rip missed one of two. Head then was just short on another triple try. And then it was just an inch from being overtime, as Howard just missed a tap back. And by the way, Flip put in Evans to defend the last play.

Back to Prince, the most heavily plus player on the best team in the NBA. Prince does a ton of things well. Prince is doing so well this year statistically, according to these stats we would just be an average team without him this year. Hard to believe, go find the stats yourself. No, trading Prince for anyone else is not a good idea. TMAC was being TMAC. He was on. Hard to stop. Anyone think Melo would have done better defending TMAC tonight?

Thats 7 straight. We are now 33-5. Friday, I will be at the Memphis game, where hopefully we will outdo the Tigers team of '84 and their 35-5 start. We could go 36-5 that night. We got a back to back Tuesday and Wednesday, at Minny and home against Milwaukee before the Memphis game. Everyone cheer real hard the next few games. And then we will talk about resting up a bit for the playoffs. GO PISTONS!!!!! PS Howard did good tonight, hitting a bunch of outside shots to help TMAC with the scoring load.

LanierFan
01-22-2006, 09:27 PM
When McGrady's shot is falling, he is the closest thing the league has to unstoppable. I liked that they were switching defenders late in the game to give him different looks -- Sheed one time, Evans the next.

Object lesson:

* Detroit made a rookie take the last shot instead of McGrady, which is why the Pistons win games.

* Rafer Alston gave up six foul shots to Chauncey by fouling him twice on three-point attempts, which is why other teams lose games. He lets Billups make one of two, the Rockets win.

pistonsloyalist
01-22-2006, 09:27 PM
Lee, I think your summary is on the mark. A win is a win, but to me it wasn't a very inspired peformance by the Pistons. Chauncey's shot selection (I believe it was Chauncey) in one of the last possessions for the Pistons (when a two-point bucket would have put the Pistons up by six) was questionable. If I recall correctly, he attempted a shot from 3-point land that missed badly. But then again, I didn't think it made sense for Houston to attempt a three on their last possession either.

Warthog
01-22-2006, 09:42 PM
some more comments later but phew, still undefeated when i go to games this year!! knock on wood :D it was weird having a close one for once, but fun to actually have your heart racing at the palace instead of the usual blowout

FreshPrince22
01-22-2006, 09:44 PM
I love the fact that we have a wing player off the bench that is stepping up game after game. We have now had double digit points from at least one of them in each of the last 5 games. Mo Evans was fantastic today. He was aggressive in the paint, hit a three, and was easily our best T-Mac defender on night. Delfino's foul trouble was the story of his game, but I hope he stays aggressive on D. You're never going to get the calls against a guy like T-Mac. He will learn how much contact the refs allow with time.

It's also great to see Tayshaun getting some serious rest. Only 25 minutes again tonight. Gets our bench players some more experience, and Tayshaun more rest, so he'll be good to go for the playoffs.

mercury
01-22-2006, 10:13 PM
Post game quotes (http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/HOUDET_060122.html)

Lee356
01-22-2006, 10:30 PM
I love the fact that we have a wing player off the bench that is stepping up game after game. We have now had double digit points from at least one of them in each of the last 5 games. Mo Evans was fantastic today. He was aggressive in the paint, hit a three, and was easily our best T-Mac defender on night. Delfino's foul trouble was the story of his game, but I hope he stays aggressive on D. You're never going to get the calls against a guy like T-Mac. He will learn how much contact the refs allow with time.

It's also great to see Tayshaun getting some serious rest. Only 25 minutes again tonight. Gets our bench players some more experience, and Tayshaun more rest, so he'll be good to go for the playoffs.

However, don't get carried away just yet. Wait until he has a good game against an above .500 team.

FreshPrince22
01-22-2006, 10:35 PM
However, don't get carried away just yet. Wait until he has a good game against an above .500 team.
Before tonight, the Rockets were 10-6 with T-mac on the road. They are 0-16 without T-Mac, so they were really 13-9 overall with T-Mac playing. I'd consider them at least a .500 team.

Besides, I don't care if the team we're playing is 0-40. We didn't have ANYONE at the 2/3 last year who could take the pressure off the starters against even the worst of teams.

You love to discredit everything Evans does against lesser teams, but let's be honest... as much as I am a Delfino fan, he has done even less against good teams. And he has really only had 1 game where he had a big impact on the outcome. Evans has had numerous. Today he even played in crunch time against a top 5 player in the game.

Lee356
01-22-2006, 11:33 PM
Before tonight, the Rockets were 10-6 with T-mac on the road. They are 0-16 without T-Mac, so they were really 13-9 overall with T-Mac playing. I'd consider them at least a .500 team.

Besides, I don't care if the team we're playing is 0-40. We didn't have ANYONE at the 2/3 last year who could take the pressure off the starters against even the worst of teams.

You love to discredit everything Evans does against lesser teams, but let's be honest... as much as I am a Delfino fan, he has done even less against good teams. And he has really only had 1 game where he had a big impact on the outcome. Evans has had numerous. Today he even played in crunch time against a top 5 player in the game.


Hey, its not limited to Evans. I mentioned that Arroyo's best game recently was against Atlanta. Delfino has absolutely helped us in some big games. SA, Cleveland, and Miami to name a few recently. And Arroyo has done well all season long, good teams or bad. Dyess is there game after game spelling our bigs.

What matters is the playoffs. Until Evans shows he can have a good game against a playoff caliber team, I will not get to thrilled about his performances.

All this is nothing to argue about really. Its just something to discuss, and track. We have games against Milwaukee, Minny, and then Memphis this week, all playoff bound teams. Lets see who does what in those games.

lazyberbs
01-22-2006, 11:35 PM
And to put a capper on it, San Antonio LOST today.

max
01-23-2006, 12:27 AM
I consider us fortunate to have won that game. Houston definetly played well enough to win. Only thing that saved us was T-Mac's 2-8 in the 4th. Kind of looked like he tweaked his back which seemed to have limited his mobility just enough to start missing.

I cannot understand why Sheed was not posting up that game. With what Houston had inside Sheed could have had a monster game. Same theme in many games as to why Sheed is not utilized more. Wasn't Sheed rolling over Howard in the previous Houston game?

buddahfan
01-23-2006, 12:47 AM
Anyone remember the Jordan rules? Maybe Flipper should call Daddy Rich and figure out some T-Mac rules.

40+ against the Pistons. Are we sure that they didn't borrow Smush Parker from the Lakers for one game to guard? T-Mac.? LOL

clingman
01-23-2006, 12:49 AM
Anyone remember the Jordan rules? Maybe Flipper should call Daddy Rich and figure out some T-Mac rules.

40+ against the Pistons. Are we sure that they didn't borrow Smush Parker from the Lakers for one game to guard? T-Mac.? LOL

40 points.... blah, and to think i thought we were going to be ripped on the espn shows tonight.... thanks kobe.

FreshPrince22
01-23-2006, 01:12 AM
Delfino has absolutely helped us in some big games. SA, Cleveland, and Miami to name a few recently.
@ SA
2 points (2 of 3), 0 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 foul

vs. Miami
5 points (2 of 4), 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 1 foul

@ Cleveland
1 point (0 of 2), 1 rebound, 1 assist, 2 fouls

A combined 8 points, 1 rebound, 2 assists, and 4 fouls in those 3 games. Evans was just as good (or mediocre I should say) in those games.

The biggest difference I see is that Mo Evans has hit BIG shots for us in the 3rd and 4th quarters in close games (he hit a big 3 today when we were down 1 point with 6 minutes left in the game). Delfino has not. The Boston game was his only real shining moment. Most of his other points were garbage-time buckets. I'll give him the Clippers and Heat games, but Evans has that kind of impact every other game or so, so I need to see more.

We can talk about talent all we want, but Evans is going out there and producing. His shot may be ugly, and his game may be limited, but he always seems to find a way to put points on the board and hustle for those rebounds. And his defense is getting better as we speak.

OLD SKOOL HQ
01-23-2006, 01:30 AM
40 points.... blah, and to think i thought we were going to be ripped on the espn shows tonight.... thanks kobe.when you all turn 42 like me, u will look back and realize how special seeing ANYONE score 81 pts in a game. I saw David Thompson's 73 pts vs 'us' and it was crazy cuz he's only 6'3"! I love NBA LEAGUE PASS and this is why...Pistons and Kobe back to back. We cant wait til we go to Showtimeland. He'll be psyched to play us...my bruddahs!
Great games all over league tonight and our boy, Jerome , is coming home for the SuperBowl...wooooo!

TheeTFD
01-23-2006, 04:15 AM
Max, like Cbill said, Sometimes Sheeds head aint right in the game. Cause when it is we're unstoppable.

Lee356
01-23-2006, 05:44 AM
@ SA
2 points (2 of 3), 0 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 foul

vs. Miami
5 points (2 of 4), 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 1 foul

@ Cleveland
1 point (0 of 2), 1 rebound, 1 assist, 2 fouls

A combined 8 points, 1 rebound, 2 assists, and 4 fouls in those 3 games. Evans was just as good (or mediocre I should say) in those games.

The biggest difference I see is that Mo Evans has hit BIG shots for us in the 3rd and 4th quarters in close games (he hit a big 3 today when we were down 1 point with 6 minutes left in the game). Delfino has not. The Boston game was his only real shining moment. Most of his other points were garbage-time buckets. I'll give him the Clippers and Heat games, but Evans has that kind of impact every other game or so, so I need to see more.

We can talk about talent all we want, but Evans is going out there and producing. His shot may be ugly, and his game may be limited, but he always seems to find a way to put points on the board and hustle for those rebounds. And his defense is getting better as we speak.

Delfino did a decent job guarding Wade, LaBron, and Ginobili in those three games. Delfino also does a lot of good ball handling that helps our offense score points. This does not alway show up in the stat sheet.

FreshPrince22
01-23-2006, 06:52 AM
Delfino did a decent job guarding Wade, LaBron, and Ginobili in those three games. Delfino also does a lot of good ball handling that helps our offense score points. This does not alway show up in the stat sheet.
I'll give you Wade. I was impressed with his defense on him (he guarded him as well as anyone). He only saw Ginobili for a few plays. Defended him well on one or two and gave a touch foul on the other. In fact, they were only in the game at the same time for a little over a minute. And Lebron just lit him up (as he did everyone), so I don't know about that one.

16 Mile
01-23-2006, 05:15 PM
I'll give you Wade. I was impressed with his defense on him (he guarded him as well as anyone). He only saw Ginobili for a few plays. Defended him well on one or two and gave a touch foul on the other. In fact, they were only in the game at the same time for a little over a minute. And Lebron just lit him up (as he did everyone), so I don't know about that one.

that's not true, Delfino guarded LeBron as well as anyone can, he made Lebron make tough shots, he made the refs bail Lebron out with cheap fouls.

Darth Tater
01-23-2006, 06:08 PM
Delfino did a decent job guarding Wade, LaBron, and Ginobili in those three games. Delfino also does a lot of good ball handling that helps our offense score points. This does not alway show up in the stat sheet.
Any idea why Delfino only was given 10 minutes after several consistently good performances? Was it because the game was close? Flip played Evans during crunch time in the closing minutes so I'm curious as to why Delfino didn't get his usual minutes throughout the game?

FreshPrince22
01-23-2006, 08:48 PM
Any idea why Delfino only was given 10 minutes after several consistently good performances? Was it because the game was close? Flip played Evans during crunch time in the closing minutes so I'm curious as to why Delfino didn't get his usual minutes throughout the game?

It's because he was picking up fouls like crazy. Mo Evans was doing a decent job on T-Mac (or rather, T-Mac went cold against him, so Flip didn't want to change anything to ruin that trend).

mercury
01-23-2006, 09:31 PM
I'm seeing decent improvement by both players... that's all we should ask for... some posters are gonna be more partial for foreign players .. and some for domestic talent... that might not change no matter what happens.

I really would like to see Delfino actually finish one of his drives to the hoop (not including breakaways).

Contrary to some forum perception neither are good passers (too many bad passes or fumbles).

Delfino showed good shooting range in Italy.

pistonsloyalist
01-23-2006, 10:53 PM
Max, like Cbill said, Sometimes Sheeds head aint right in the game. Cause when it is we're unstoppable.

Yep. Even Chauncey acknowledged as much in a candid moment during a post-game interview following the Pistons' recent victory over the Spurs (when Rasheed scored 27):

"We tried to get 'Sheed' aggressive early," Billups explained. "When we do that and his mind is right, he's impossible to guard. He was very focused and he got us off to a great jump start."

If interested, you can find the article containing these remarks by doing a google search for "Pistons Punish Spurs Again," and then using the "cached" feature to pull up the article.

Lee356
01-23-2006, 11:11 PM
Gee, it was comical rewatching the last few minutes of the game. The announcers, between them, fooled themselves. TMAC had sat down for a spell mid-4th quarter. When he came back, he pretty much was missing all his shots. At first the announcers acknowledged that the sit was a likely cause. But they also then said the defense we were playing might be slowing TMAC down. Nope. He was just missing shots, pure and simple. Then it got strange. All the sudden McLeod announced that Evans had played great D on TMAC. Sorry, he did not. Evans hit some shots. He closed out on and blocked the shot of Wesley. He did some good rebounding. But no, he never was effective guarding TMAC.

On the other hand, I will tell you who was sold short by the announcers big time. Tay. Tay did a fine job guarding TMAC. Other than about 3 times, at most, Tay stayed with TMAC just fine except for the following:

Twice, Mutombo sat clearly illegal picks to get TMAC free from Tay. That ain't TMAC. Thats the officials missing a fine game. And once, Dyess and Tay, as a pair, defended the pick and roll poorly. Dyess ended up picking Tay off of TMAC. Dyess did not show enough. Or, if Dyess was not going to show that much, Tay should have known and slid under Dyess. Instead, Tay ran into his own man. In any case, this one took the cooperation of two players to mess up.

Tay is the guy who was right up on TMAC in that last minute and truly made TMAC miss. Tay did this several times in the game. Nobody else did this as much, although Sheed and CB, and Rip each managed it one time. Evans never did more than wave at a shot after TMAC lost him. Evans being there, generally late, does not mean he bothered the shot. For the most part, Evans does not even have the height needed to bother TMAC's jumper.

Again, this by no means takes away from all the good boardwork Evans did. But I think we were sold a bill of goods by the announcers by the end of this game.

Delfino was in first off the bench before Evans in the 2nd half of the game. And he could have kept himself out there. He missed a triple. Missed a close in push shot. If he had not fumbled the ball when he did, it might have been a couple minutes before the next play stoppage. Anyway, its not like Delfino did all that poorly or anything. Just missed some shots.

I do not fault Billups for taking those triples he missed late. He did not have a very good offensive team out there. The unit was Billups, who can handle the ball, along with Rip, who really can't, Evans, who can't, and a couple of bigs. Plays were not going to get ran too crisply with that crew.

Yes, I see what one poster meant. If Luther Head had hit that shot to win it for Houston, Evans would have been the goat, as he missed his rotation there. At first I thought he was helping to double TMAC, but watching again shows he was just floating.

The Pistons knocked down those 4 triples early, in the first quarter. Rip finally connected on one in the 2nd half to end a very long drought on that. Just kind of points out that its Rip who is our best percentagewise 3 point shooter, not Sheed, Tay, or CB, who all take more.

The Pistons played a ton of zone in this game, trying to negate TMAC getting picks to get open. I'd say for the most part, it did not work. TMAC kept finding the seams in our zone.

To balance out this post, in case I get accused of bashing Evans (But I wrote this post to tell how darn valuable Tay is.) I will mention a couple of good things Evans did. We did get up to a 13 point lead on the fast break dunk by Evans late in the 2nd quarter. So my observation in my game report that the only time we gained some lead was with Arroyo in was wrong. We actually gained another 6 points up to and including that dunk after Arroyo came off the floor. The bad call was kind of a momentum killer though, and we did not finish the half strong. It was a bogus tech they gave Evans for hanging on the rim. Instead, they should have T'd up Mutombo for moving under Evans.

Evans actually drove the ball in once in the 2nd half, and kicked out to Sheed. It was not the best play. Sheed did not get that open and had to fade back on his shot. Still, it was an attempt by Evans to handle the ball and make a play happen. Ok, so this is not too complimenting of Evans. What was though is his drive from the corner and reverse. And his getting some scoring done inside, getting fouled and hitting some free throws.

I want to clarify the part about Tay guarding TMAC. Yes, there were three times TMAC just simply lost Prince, all by himself. (No illegal picks, no bungled defense) The three plays I mentioned after that were separate from those.

Warthog
01-24-2006, 02:35 AM
and lee tries to slide his anti-evans post in while no one is paying attention anymore

somehow tmac lights tayshaun up, and can't score with evans on him, yet tayshaun played awesome defense on tmac?

FACT: if delfino did the same thing as evans during the 4th quarter, and tmac didn't score, lee would be all over delfino's nuts like a dog lickin peanut butter off his balls

FreshPrince22
01-24-2006, 03:32 AM
and lee tries to slide his anti-evans post in while no one is paying attention anymore

somehow tmac lights tayshaun up, and can't score with evans on him, yet tayshaun played awesome defense on tmac?

FACT: if delfino did the same thing as evans during the 4th quarter, and tmac didn't score, lee would be all over delfino's nuts like a dog lickin peanut butter off his balls

Exactly. The fact of the matter is... T-Mac missed a lot of shots with Mo Evans on him at the end of the game. I don't care how it happend, I just care about results. For all we know, Evans was doing something subtle that took him out of his rhythm. Who knows?

Lee356
01-24-2006, 06:16 AM
Exactly. The fact of the matter is... T-Mac missed a lot of shots with Mo Evans on him at the end of the game. I don't care how it happend, I just care about results. For all we know, Evans was doing something subtle that took him out of his rhythm. Who knows?

I find the statement that you could care less how it happened a bit disturbing. And you call me biased? Look, the announcers were saying TMAC was missing the same shots he was making earlier. They contributed that to the fact TMAC sat a while. They also noted the guy was hurting from a fall he took late in the game in a scrum for a rebound.

From there, they started saying its possible. Possible. That Evans was bothering TMAC. Reviewing the tape, I find that it turns out that other than arriving as TMAC was hoisting, and waving at the shot, Evans most certainly not affect the shots TMAC took.

The announcers, in just over a minute, went from, possible that Evans was doing something to Evans did a terrific job on TMAC. Like they had not heard a work that they had said a few moments earlier.

Lastly, if you want to argue these points, why not record the game and take a good look again? It does not take but a few minutes to review the few times that Evans was on TMAC. And you then could give your truly informed opinion. This day and age, I can't see any excuse why a person so interested in the Pistons would not do this.

On the other hand, if you don't feel like reviewing the game like that, please at least appreciate the efforts I put in to doing so. I am not out to diss Evans. Just to tell what I see.

FreshPrince22
01-24-2006, 06:33 AM
Lastly, if you want to argue these points, why not record the game and take a good look again? It does not take but a few minutes to review the few times that Evans was on TMAC. And you then could give your truly informed opinion. This day and age, I can't see any excuse why a person so interested in the Pistons would not do this.

On the other hand, if you don't feel like reviewing the game like that, please at least appreciate the efforts I put in to doing so. I am not out to diss Evans. Just to tell what I see.
But 99% of your posts involve discrediting anything good Evans did and praising every single facet of Delfino's game. Even in the case of this game where Evans CLEARLY had the better game. Every time the guy he's defending misses shots or just doesn't score a lot you blame it on them being "cold" or them "not being aggressive". Every time he puts up 8, 10, maybe 15 points it's because the competition sucked. Yet Delfino can put up 2 points on 1 of 4 shooting and you'll say he was fantastic, even if he didn't impact the game in other ways.

And BTW, I have been Tivo-ing every single Pistons game for the last 2 1/2 years. You are not the first person to discover this technology. My point still stands. Evans did fine job on T-mac in the 4th quarter. Tayshaun, Rip, Billups, and Delfino all got some minutes on him, and Evans was the most effective for what ever reason, so I'll take it. T-mac didn't do much of anything on him. He challenged his shots, forced some misses, and he even knocked down the final go-ahead basket of the game (on a three pointer).

Trust me, I am completely impartial. I like Delfino's game as much as anyone, but I also realize what Mo Evans can bring to the table. I'll tell it like it is even if they are my favorite player or my least favorite.

MotownPride
01-24-2006, 09:06 AM
But 99% of your posts involve discrediting anything good Evans did and praising every single facet of Delfino's game. Even in the case of this game where Evans CLEARLY had the better game. Every time the guy he's defending misses shots or just doesn't score a lot you blame it on them being "cold" or them "not being aggressive". Every time he puts up 8, 10, maybe 15 points it's because the competition sucked. Yet Delfino can put up 2 points on 1 of 4 shooting and you'll say he was fantastic, even if he didn't impact the game in other ways.

And BTW, I have been Tivo-ing every single Pistons game for the last 2 1/2 years. You are not the first person to discover this technology. My point still stands. Evans did fine job on T-mac in the 4th quarter. Tayshaun, Rip, Billups, and Delfino all got some minutes on him, and Evans was the most effective for what ever reason, so I'll take it. T-mac didn't do much of anything on him. He challenged his shots, forced some misses, and he even knocked down the final go-ahead basket of the game (on a three pointer).

Trust me, I am completely impartial. I like Delfino's game as much as anyone, but I also realize what Mo Evans can bring to the table. I'll tell it like it is even if they are my favorite player or my least favorite.

well said, Belle Aire's Finest. :)

The amount of detail Lee presents on discrediting Evans can be easily applied to every player on the court, yet Lee decides to focus his attention on Maurice. We have all seen many occasions where our team defense or on ball defense has not been up to par by our starters yet they do not see the same level of interrogation by our resident expert. I appreciate Lee's efforts, but his descriptions definitely yield a biased approach often with an agenda in mind. I would suggest that if every player on the Pistons roster was subjected to Lee's Evans criteria for success, no one would have a passing grade.

mercury
01-24-2006, 09:39 AM
Nice to see you guys picking up the torch on Lee's biased reporting... after 5 years I finally just put him on the ignore list (unfortunately quotes still can be seen).... word to the wise... you'll never get through to him when it comes to comparing his pets to his whipping boys.... if you could somehow filter out the words "Darko", "Evans" "Arroyo" "Hunter", and "Delfino" you'd have a worthwhile recap.

Lee356
01-24-2006, 07:54 PM
Nice to see you guys picking up the torch on Lee's biased reporting... after 5 years I finally just put him on the ignore list (unfortunately quotes still can be seen).... word to the wise... you'll never get through to him when it comes to comparing his pets to his whipping boys.... if you could somehow filter out the words "Darko", "Evans" "Arroyo" "Hunter", and "Delfino" you'd have a worthwhile recap.

Cause as you are part of the staff here, I can't put you on ignore. So anybody not on Mercury's ignore list, please inform him not to mention me in his posts.

Darth Tater
01-24-2006, 07:57 PM
Cause as you are part of the staff here, I can't put you on ignore. So anybody not on Mercury's ignore list, please inform him not to mention me in his posts.

Mercury, please mention whomever you choose to mention in your future reports.

Lee, weren't you the guy complaining about a lack of "Freedom of Speech" in this forum not too long ago?

Abe Froemen
01-24-2006, 07:59 PM
kids behave

roscoe36
01-24-2006, 08:10 PM
Cause as you are part of the staff here, I can't put you on ignore. I have addressed this once already. If you are having a problem, contact me by PM please.