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TheeTFD
02-16-2006, 02:47 PM
We of the Darko has great talent fan club vs. the hater club led by Hat.

Slippy
02-16-2006, 03:04 PM
He'll be wildly inconsistent. I think he'll do great. He'll show some post moves and sweet passes. He'll also brick as many long J's as he hits. He'll be their Prince.

TheeTFD
02-16-2006, 03:11 PM
Jim Rome just said the Pistons sucked the life out of Darko and it may take a while for him to get his head right. I said that 1.5 yr ago. It will be interesting to see if the Magic play to his "wants" or try to break him.
P.S. don't mess with a hard headed Cancer. Day head be concrete.

jammertime
02-16-2006, 03:15 PM
I think it will take Darko a bit of time to get comfortable again, but he'll have a nice career.

Orlando will let him play. He'll take his lumps on the court and learn to play through his mistakes. Something he wasn't given the opportunity to do here.

himat
02-16-2006, 03:41 PM
there is going to be one more trade unless the orginization will be willing to play alex acker.

TaShawn
02-16-2006, 04:10 PM
I don't know about the 10 assists part of it. But 10 points/ game shouldn't be too difficult in 30 minutes of play.

linwood
02-16-2006, 04:19 PM
Against weak teams with soft interior D, Darko should be able to get 15 points and 3 or 4 assists. (As far as rebounds, I think I might be able to outrebound Darko)

Against teams with a strong front line, I predict that Darko folds like oragami, and Howard has to work extra hard.

Darth Tater
02-16-2006, 05:04 PM
Against weak teams with soft interior D, Darko should be able to get 15 points and 3 or 4 assists. (As far as rebounds, I think I might be able to outrebound Darko)

Against teams with a strong front line, I predict that Darko folds like oragami, and Howard has to work extra hard.

Yeah, I think so too. :nod:

He'll do alright. I think he'll be inconsistent.

And when he does have a nice game, man, are we gonna hear about it.:lalala:

I think he is going to start right away. They have nothing to lose. He cost them a draft choice, but unlike the Pistons, their team stinks. They can experiment. They should just throw him in there. Act like "We love you Darko & you're our man no matter what". Don't put any pressure on him & don't make him earn anything. Then after the season they can sign him to a nice contract, or kick him to the curb and save themselves millions of dollars and hundreds of headaches.

Slippy
02-16-2006, 05:29 PM
The only thing I DON'T want to hear is after 5 forgetable games, Jack comes back to tell us "I told you so." on his one big night.

16 Mile
02-16-2006, 08:34 PM
Orlando will play Darko 30 mpg this year. The Orlando coaches are saying that all Darko needs is a chance. They will do whatever it takes to get Darko motivated playing, and allow him to play through his mistakes this year.

My prediction, Darko will be up and down until he gets some conditioning and learns how to play with Dwight. I expect a few monster games and a bunch of horrific games.

Before the year is done, Darko will get at least:
One Triple Double (Blocks/Assts, Points, and Rebounds)
One 10 block game
One 10 turnover game
FIVE over 20, and Five under 5 points in a game
And a bunch of ESPN highlight/posterized shots

And he'll average 12 pts, 6 reb, 5 assts, 4 blocks, and 3 steals a game (BTW, Battie, the man Darko is replacing in the lineup is avg 8 pts, 6 rebs, and 1 block per game)

Mad Hatter
02-16-2006, 09:09 PM
Diddly squat this year.:spy:

Weak big man for next two years.:ballchain

Breaks out (relatively speaking) season after next, his contract year.:clock:

At least he has a chance to play. I wonder how bball fans in Orl will take to him. They know what a "ready-to-play" 20 year old big man looks like.:fingerscr

linwood
02-16-2006, 09:14 PM
Orlando will play Darko 30 mpg this year. The Orlando coaches are saying that all Darko needs is a chance. They will do whatever it takes to get Darko motivated playing, and allow him to play through his mistakes this year.

My prediction, Darko will be up and down until he gets some conditioning and learns how to play with Dwight. I expect a few monster games and a bunch of horrific games.

Before the year is done, Darko will get at least:
One Triple Double (Blocks/Assts, Points, and Rebounds)
One 10 block game
One 10 turnover game
FIVE over 20, and Five under 5 points in a game
And a bunch of ESPN highlight/posterized shots

And he'll average 12 pts, 6 reb, 5 assts, 4 blocks, and 3 steals a game (BTW, Battie, the man Darko is replacing in the lineup is avg 8 pts, 6 rebs, and 1 block per game)

Thats a pretty good scenario. Nice job.

My question is, If Darko plays 30 minutes per, how many games does he foul out of the rest of the season?

Mad Hatter
02-16-2006, 09:26 PM
linwood
My question is, If Darko plays 30 minutes per, how many games does he foul out of the rest of the season?

Darko ain't foulin out! You gotta be in the paint to collect fouls. Darko's gonna hang out at the 3pt line and show off his outside shot. They got Howard for the paint.

lemonpen
02-16-2006, 09:49 PM
Darko will go the way of most finess players. Only as good as his jumper on any given day. LB tried to give him something to fallback on but Darko would have none of it.

Jackattaq
02-16-2006, 10:05 PM
The only thing I DON'T want to hear is after 5 forgetable games, Jack comes back to tell us "I told you so." on his one big night.

Hey, but it's OKAY for you guys to tell me all about SHEED's ONE OR TWO BIG games against the SPURS while he struggles to stop guys like Zach Randolph, Pau Gasol, Ike Diogu, Chris Bosh or whatever other young PF that decides to tear Sheed a new one?

Or to act like Sheed shooting 1-11 on 3pt FGA's is OK just because the Pistons other 4 guys carried him that night? Or that he has 2X as many 3pt FGAs as he does FTAs? It's OK to criticize Darko for everything under the sun, but Sheed is off-limits because he tries 1 out of every 3 games?

God forbid, I actually wish Darko well as a Piston. Now that he is a member of the MAGIC, I still wish him well and believe that the Pistons completely mishandled him.

Slippy
02-16-2006, 11:31 PM
No its not ok. But what does Sheed have to do with Darko?

Did you listen to the Joe Dumars audio about the trade? I thought it was cool. It gave me a different perspective over the situation. Add that to the ESPN insider piece and it looked like a bad fit all around. I wish we gave darko the opportunity to develop. As it is, I think we'll be talking darko in the same way we talk about memo and mike james. Dumars said it was Sheed and Dyess that made Darko's situation impossible but I think it was LB. I think the addition of sheed and Dyess made it very difficult but LB really put it out of reach for him.

In the end though, turning into an all-star on a crappy team doesn't help the pistons at all.

Hey so does this mean igor is out of a job?

Darth Tater
02-16-2006, 11:41 PM
Hey, but it's OKAY for you guys to tell me all about SHEED's ONE OR TWO BIG games against the SPURS while he struggles to stop guys like Zach Randolph, Pau Gasol, Ike Diogu, Chris Bosh or whatever other young PF that decides to tear Sheed a new one?



The difference is that Sheed has already proven himself and has many more good nights than bad. Slippy was stating that IF Darko should have one good night after several bad nights then he didn't want to hear about it.

Relax man, he was kidding around. :) We're all friends here. If you know slippy, you know that he is a big Darko fan. He defends him regularly.

Slippy
02-17-2006, 12:15 AM
yeah man, this ain't mlive:laugh: .

We admire your enthusiasm. Just sometimes...not all of it. :director:
besides Tater might be a darko hater but he picked him up on his fantasy basketball team and is betting his season on him.

TheeTFD
02-17-2006, 08:33 AM
If you read some of the media quotes, Darko said he likes to assist. He's a team player. And should have been fine in LBs pass happy scheme. If he has his way and is able to set up his 'mates he'll get double digit assists. And if his mates aint looking for the ball they'll get hit in the head with it, turns. He'll score way more than BBen [11 total pts for Darko] and assist more than BBen and block more than BBen. He won't rebound as well. Steals and fouls about even. If we woulda let him come off the bench with Mo and Fino we would be baddddd!
...Check Magic ticket sales for standing room only.
...I'm pullin' the race card on the Pistons. They wouldn't let him break the color bar. But hey, we got a very tight group.

TWOTIMESRALPHI
02-17-2006, 08:52 AM
I' been in the Darko HOF Fan Club. I am still in the Darko has great talent club. I think he's capable of scoring about 16ppg at an FG% of 45%, about 6-7 RPG and 1.5 BPG. Next year may be deceiving for him if he becomes HOF or another decent big.

TaShawn
02-17-2006, 10:41 AM
"I told John Hammond yesterday, 'Make no mistake, we're going to look up and see some 18-point, 10-rebound, four-block nights from Darko at some point,' " Dumars said.

lazyberbs
02-17-2006, 04:57 PM
I think that he will be a solid big next year and possibly the year after that, but either that second year or the third, he will break out and become a monster. It will take a little while for he and Dwight to divide up the chores but they should work well together. Grant Hill is there to help, and they have a guy coming over from Euro that everybody seems to think will work in well. With Carlos there, it should help, too.

The rest of this year will be spent getting acquainted withe the system but he still should average 8-12 points, 6 boards, 4 assists, 3 blocks, and a couple of TOs because he will pass when he should shoot at times and his teammates will be expecting him to shoot. Probably have 3 fouls a game, too, but seldom foul out.

Saw a nice video on the Orlando site of the Darko jam over Zo.

Warthog
02-17-2006, 05:25 PM
The rest of this year will be spent getting acquainted withe the system but he still should average 8-12 points, 6 boards, 4 assists, 3 blocks, and a couple of TOs because he will pass when he should shoot at times and his teammates will be expecting him to shoot. Probably have 3 fouls a game, too, but seldom foul out.

i think you're crazy. i'll take a stab, and say if he plays 30 mins a game he'll average 7 points, 4 boards, 1 assist, 2 blocks, 3.5 turnovers, and 4.5 fouls

TaShawn
02-17-2006, 05:36 PM
Since D Howard is such a strong rebounder, I don't think Darko's boards will be very impressive. Sheed and Ben operate that way too.

Assists will be tough with Francis around. Darko better look to score and block shots.

I really hope he does get 30 mpg so that we can finally see his true character... good or bad.

Darth Tater
02-17-2006, 05:38 PM
i'll take a stab, and say if he plays 30 mins a game he'll average 7 points, 4 boards, 1 assist, 2 blocks, 3.5 turnovers, and 4.5 fouls

Yep, I've got him penciled in for about 8 points, 4 boards, 2 blocks, and 3 fouls if he gets regular playing time. But, you know, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the numbers fluctuate significantly in either direction.


It will be interesting to see whether or not they start him immediately.
They may as well have Battie come off the bench right from jump. They have a :smow: chance in hell of making the playoffs...so put the boy in.

I wonder how the Orlando players feel about all of this?

roscoe36
02-17-2006, 06:24 PM
It is such a relief to be able to say this.

WHO CARES?

Ok, I feel better now.

I'll start watching and following Darko when he begs Joe to bring him back to Detroit for a shot at a title...

lazyberbs
02-17-2006, 10:41 PM
It is such a relief to be able to say this.

WHO CARES?

Ok, I feel better now.

I'll start watching and following Darko when he begs Joe to bring him back to Detroit for a shot at a title...

Or when in three years, Joe trades Ben, Sheed, and Dyce for Darko to come back and win a title :eyebrows: :nod: :laugh: !!

Just joshin' witcha, Micro!!

BUT . . . .

roscoe36
02-17-2006, 11:04 PM
Or when in three years, Joe trades Ben, Sheed, and Dyce for Darko to come back and win a title :eyebrows: :nod: :laugh: !!

Just joshin' witcha, Micro!!

BUT . . . .
In three years, We'll be watching Amir Johnson, Jason Maxiell and our 2007 first round pick along with the replacements for Dice/Davis.

Life goes on without Darko. The vibe I get across the internet from Pistons fans is that the Darko trade is like a weight being lifted off. It's ok to talk about the 4 guys in the All-Star game, and to be proud of that.

Besides, DMC might not like Orlando in a year or two. Heck, he might be moving again. He's got a massive contract coming up, and whether he plays well or not, he 'll get paid. I wonder if Orlando will be able to afford him good or bad. The Pistons couldn't.

TheeTFD
02-18-2006, 06:40 AM
Just how greedy do you think Darko can/will be, Laker greedy like Shaq? If so he'd have to be one badddd playa!
TayS I think you're right, he better learn to throw it down. It took Sheed years to develope his tre shot. Darko better learn the "washing machine".

LanierFan
02-18-2006, 12:16 PM
The big question from Orlando's point of view isn't how Darko will do. It's how Howard will do. Darko likes to pass and he's already better at it than anybody on their team except Nelson and Hill. Expect Howard's shot attempts and ppg to increase significantly.

TheeTFD
02-28-2006, 01:43 PM
That's why I'm thinking he'll avg. Double Digits Assists. He could be as good as BBen in the Blocks and Steals cat., all that came natural.

Warthog
02-28-2006, 03:05 PM
That's why I'm thinking he'll avg. Double Digits Assists. He could be as good as BBen in the Blocks and Steals cat., all that came natural.

lol double-digit assist average? did i miss the sarcasm or were you being serious?

TheeTFD
02-28-2006, 03:16 PM
Watch and learn Hog. I think when I start my "Truth about Darko punishment thread" you'll be first on the Rack.
I'll research all the wrongful qoutes about Darko and make you all gag on them.

Warthog
02-28-2006, 03:50 PM
Watch and learn Hog. I think when I start my "Truth about Darko punishment thread" you'll be first on the Rack.
I'll research all the wrongful qoutes about Darko and make you all gag on them.

i'm not really following you. but i asked about the double-digit assists. apparently you weren't kidding, which is fairly amazing in that you believe darko (or any center) could average more assists than every player in the league (save 1 or 2 MVP-candidate point gurds)

16 Mile
02-28-2006, 04:29 PM
Darko will never average 10 assists, however he will have his share of 10 assist games. I think Darko may have more double-doubles from point/assists than point/boards. The scary thing about Darko is that does not need to score or have the ball in his hands to be effective on offense.

"The Orlando Magic quickly reversed the ball from one side of the court to the other, catching the Houston defense out of position and setting up Darko Milicic for an open 15-foot jump shot."

"But just as the ball hit Milicic's hands, it suddenly headed in another direction. Without him even looking, Milicic's touch pass ended up in the hands of Magic center Dwight Howard, who finished with a dunk."

"Even after the first practice with us, you could tell that he just has such a great feel for the game," Magic coach Brian Hill gushed. "It's those types of plays where he sees how the defense is reacting and he's thinking one play ahead. He knows what the play is going to be, even before the ball gets to him.

"That's priceless. Some guys you can explain it and show them on tape all year long and they never get it. Others just see it and react instinctively."

If, and this is a huge if, Darko plays up to his hype, he will be 7 foot combo of AK and Dirk, leading the league in triple doubles.

Caliban
02-28-2006, 05:07 PM
If, and this is a huge if, Darko plays up to his hype, he will be 7 foot combo of AK and Dirk, leading the league in triple doubles.

Don't forget the quadruple double. This rare, but venerable statistic will make its sweet return in 2007, courtesy of the Serbian Gangsta. He will play up to his talent, fired by urge to make so many, glassy-eyed detractors curl up into a fecal (sic) position and whiff the fetid smell of their past errors. :wave:

mercury
02-28-2006, 08:26 PM
I think Orlando will re-sign Darko (or they really look stupid)... so we may assume that Darko will be paired with Howard for a lot of years... Dwight will dominate the boards (much like Ben over Sheed)... and Howard will be the goto guy ... ever compare this 20 year olds muscles to Darko's?... this cat is a guided missile when it comes to conditioning for success.

I think Howard will draw a lot of double teams and Darko will get the benefit of put backs (if he ain't floating on the perimeter like Sheed).
Predictions by year three with Orlando...
13PPG... 6 rebs... 3 assist... 2.5 blks...52% shooting.
Sounds good but I think he'll give up way too many open looks on defense while he's resting on the court.... blocks will not translate to good defense.

jammertime
02-28-2006, 09:31 PM
Don't forget the quadruple double. This rare, but venerable statistic will make its sweet return in 2007, courtesy of the Serbian Gangsta. He will play up to his talent, fired by urge to make so many, glassy-eyed detractors curl up into a fecal (sic) position and whiff the fetid smell of their past errors. :wave:

fecal position

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

TheeTFD
03-01-2006, 03:31 AM
Three blocks avg. is phenomenal. He may want to own that stat. I'll back off my DDA and go to 4 block avg.

buddahfan
03-02-2006, 02:38 PM
Don't forget the quadruple double. This rare, but venerable statistic will make its sweet return in 2007, courtesy of the Serbian Gangsta. He will play up to his talent, fired by urge to make so many, glassy-eyed detractors curl up into a fecal (sic) position and whiff the fetid smell of their past errors. :wave:

I like the Octagonal double - That is when you watch a game 4 times in which a player had a double double. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

TheeTFD
03-02-2006, 03:21 PM
I see Det News put up a weak poll about what kind of player Darko will be. The votes have been about 33.3 by 3 on the options. These polls used to have a total votes number not this one.
Ours is much better. Thank you.

buddahfan
03-22-2006, 09:28 PM
Nice Game for DMC tonight

Led Magic in Minutes 29, Blocked Shots 3, Rebounds 7 and Personal Fouls 5. He was tied for 3rd in scoring with 13 on 6 of 10 from the field.

Just the beginning.

He just didn't fit in like Okur didn't fit in. That is the reality. All the stuff about money is baloney. Because the fact is that with Okur and DMCs ability they would still be with the Pistons if they fit in.

Two years from now I would rather have DMC at Center rather than a 34 year old 6'7" Ben Wallace. Hold your comments on this one for two years and let see what is happening.

TheeTFD
03-22-2006, 10:40 PM
JD was of the opinion we couldn't keep both. We can't have our cake and eat it to.
The last art. about him says he might have conditioning probs. So he goes for 29 minutes tonite