Lets say that the 2007 pick is ours (it is below 5)...

This class is loaded and deep with talent. There are so many kids coming out that have the potential to be really special. Who do you think would best fit the pistons??

A couple of the many names would be:

Shawne Williams, memphis
Greg Oden(possibly coming out)
Shannon Brown, msu
josh mcroberts, duke
kyle lowry, villanova

Throw out some ideas for the best route to go.

Plus there is no gurantee that Morrison and Alridge are coming out this year. There is about 4 high school seniors that could have been taken in the 2006 lotto if not for the age rule. We should get a pretty good player. Not to mention 2008 has Mayo coming out..

i like the spanish guy. Mario Super-Calderon or something. I think his alter ego is Sergio Rodriguez-Rodriguez.

i like the spanish guy. Mario Super-Calderon or something. I think his alter ego is Sergio Rodriguez-Rodriguez.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Did he play in Europe? Pick a guy who played here & went to school here. No more Darko's.

No to Shannon Brown (No more MSU guys like Cleaves).

I don't know who to draft, but I have a pretty good idea who we do not want. lol.

Matter of fact, don't let Joe Dumars pick this guy. Get Jack McCloskey to help pick him. Yeah, Fennis Dembo sucked, but Zeke (no brainer), Dumars, Salley, Rodman...:nod:

What's wrong with euros? Are you a Euro-hater? Darko's problem is that he's a project. He needed time in the oven and we ran him through the microwave.

No to Shannon Brown (No more MSU guys like Cleaves)

I dont know man, Shannon is already the best player on his team (in my opinion, he is the most consistent as well). He will have another year to develop, too.

He is a very solid player and would be something to seriously consider.

What's wrong with euros? Are you a Euro-hater? Darko's problem is that he's a project. He needed time in the oven and we ran him through the microwave.

You just leave Roscoe out of this. :laugh:

Besides, if Darko went through the microwave he should be done by now. I think he was on a wood stove...or was that a bench? :D

Sigh. Ok, lol, I knew that was coming! Have it your way. I'm a Euro hater. :lie:I also hate MSU. :lie:

Europe: I just think we have a better way to measure kids who played here. I'd be reluctant to make a top pick out of a kid that we just "heard great things about". It's an inexact science, but I like our chances with a kid who played here better. Now, if he happens to be European...that's cool. Unless his name is Darko.

MSU: An emotional pick or fan pleaser. Never good unless the player is named Earvin.

:P

Darko's problem is that he's a project. He needed time in the oven and we ran him through the microwave. I take no responsibility for the incubation of Darko Milicic. :P

I'm liking Saer Sene for our late first round pick.

http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/mouhamedsene.asp

Very coach-able and a hard working kid ...

An absolutely jaw dropping physical specimen with his combination of size, length, strength, athleticism and mobility ... Very disruptive defensively and rebounds the ball well ... Has a 7'8" wingspan making him a force as a shot blocker ...

Still doesn't have much offensive game to speak of ... Only began playing basketball in 2003 so he's still learning the game

I like it. Prototypical sleeper with raw athleticism that might even exceed Darko's.

He's playing in Belgium.

I take no responsibility for the incubation of Darko Milicic. :P

I'm liking Saer Sene for our late first round pick.

http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/mouhamedsene.asp

Very coach-able and a hard working kid ...

An absolutely jaw dropping physical specimen with his combination of size, length, strength, athleticism and mobility ... Very disruptive defensively and rebounds the ball well ... Has a 7'8" wingspan making him a force as a shot blocker ...

Still doesn't have much offensive game to speak of ... Only began playing basketball in 2003 so he's still learning the game

I like it. Prototypical sleeper with raw athleticism that might even exceed Darko's.

He's playing in Belgium.

Sounds like a good pick for our late one. Looks like a good specimen for the future. This draft gets deeper the more i look at it.

As for our first pick in 07, I wouldnt know who to look at because i wouldnt know what pick orlando will have. I'm guessing about 8-15.

Ok, this is actually my pick for the 2006 draft. I have watched this guy play quite a few times, and If he falls a couple of spots, we should be able to pick him up.


http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/taquandean.asp


He is a very good defender (classic Pistons) and can really shoot the lights out from 3. (New Look Flipper Pistons)

For the 2007 draft, I like Paul Davis and Kevin Pittsnoggle.

our 2006 pick neds to be Marco Killingsworth from Indiana. I played with him at CP but he was a Sophmore so he only got 8-10 minutes a game.

"A product of Central Park Christian Academy in Birmingham (Ala.), Killingsworth was one of the nation's most highly-recruited players in 2000-01 • a first team Parade All-American who was ranked as the third-best power forward in the country by Hoop Scoop (12th overall player), Border Wars and Athlon's, Killingsworth's 30 points, 13 rebounds and seven blocks per game and .670 field goal percentage led Central Park Christian Academy to a 31-1 record in 2001 • he was a first team all-state selection and ranked as the second-best player in the state behind eventual Denver Nuggets draft pick Ousmane Cisse • the son of Johnnie Mae Hooks was born Feb. 21, 1982 and is enrolled in University Division and working on continuing studies. "

Ok, this is actually my pick for the 2006 draft. I have watched this guy play quite a few times, and If he falls a couple of spots, we should be able to pick him up.


http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/taquandean.asp


He is a very good defender (classic Pistons) and can really shoot the lights out from 3. (New Look Flipper Pistons)

For the 2007 draft, I like Paul Davis and Kevin Pittsnoggle.

Im not sure if we have a 2006 first rounder do we? Dean is good, I am a louisville fan and like to watch him play.

Davis is coming out in 2006 also.

Im not sure if we have a 2006 first rounder do we? Dean is good, I am a louisville fan and like to watch him play.

Davis is coming out in 2006 also.

I think Dean is a high second rounder, so we have a shot. I thought Davis was coming out in 2007. Oh well. I think he will be a pretty good NBA center. He isn't the most skilled guy, but he has improved every year, and he really plays with a lot of heart.

here is a mock draft for 2007:

http://www.nbadraft.net/index.asp?content=mock2007



I think that orlando will be in the 6-15 range. This may put us in the running for Shawne Williams. The more i read about him, the more i love his game. Just read his profile on the site above. Sounds great. Of course i would love Shannon Brown with our second first round pick, but it is likely that his stock will skyrocket after next season. So I was thinking maybe either Malik Hairston, or Curtis Stinson.

http://www.oregoninsidersports.com/storypics/pape_hairston5.jpg
malik hairston

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/mem/galleries/m_baskbl_121705/mem-05.jpg
shawne Williams

here's Shawne Willams getting into it with Gonzaga's Adam Morrison:
showing he's Bad Boy material. This is after being shoved.

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/12/27/PH2005122701242.jpg

The talk is Morrison may stay in school. If he does, could he slip to 6th? Would we want him?

another question is, at which position do we want to improve ourselves?
What would we need?
Imho, we have a need for
- a backup PG (I don't think Delk is a solution for more than this season since he's inconsistend and gets injured easily)
- another big (since our frontcourt doesn't get no younger and he wouldn't have to wait as long as Darko had to since 3 years have passed since then)
- a versatile overall- backup (like Ben Gordon) who can play positions 1-3

I wouldn't want a Euro either. The competition is on a complete different level (physically) and you never know what you get in them. Players from abroad are always good sleepers (Memo, Parker, Ginobili), but a risk at high positions (as we all know)- except for Dirk.
So I'd rather go for a US guy who's prepared better to compete at NBA level.

I think we need to get a legit 6-11/7-0 big man with this pick. It's easy to find a swingman/PG in free agency, so I don't see the point in drafting one unless they're a sure thing. I personally don't care if they pick foreign, but just do an attitude check before picking them. I'd prefer the "athletic/aggressive" type to the "skills" big man though.

Right now may be a good time to take one of them, because the whole "Foreign craze" has died down a bit. They aren't being overrated to the extreme anymore after the Darko fallout. Saer Sene and Alexis Ajinca are both intruiging. Not to mention all of the Bigs coming out of College that year (Oden, Wright, Cedric Simmons, etc). It looks to be a good draft for bigs. Let's hope Aldridge waits another year. Even if we can't get him, it will only make the draft deeper.

IMO, it's a completely different situation now with the D-League available, so if it's a mid-1st I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on a foreigner.

Ok, this is actually my pick for the 2006 draft. I have watched this guy play quite a few times, and If he falls a couple of spots, we should be able to pick him up.


http://www.nbadraft.net/profiles/taquandean.asp


He is a very good defender (classic Pistons) and can really shoot the lights out from 3. (New Look Flipper Pistons)



But does he have a splinter proof posterior?

What's wrong with euros? Are you a Euro-hater? Darko's problem is that he's a project. He needed time in the oven and we ran him through the microwave.
I heard Eva L. was the chef.

But does he have a splinter proof posterior?

I guess Dean would have to outplay Acker to get any shot at playing time here. I don't think Buckets will be back next year, and I'm not sure about Lindsey either, so a couple of guards could be handy. I just see him as the best option at our draft position. Maybe a couple years in Fayetteville and we could bring him up to the show.

What ever we do, no more Euros (unless we're talking about the 2nd round). I DO like Micro's pick (Saer Sene) for our late 1st rounder tho.

I offer Glen "Big Baby" Davis of LSU, or Patrick O'Bryant. This Joakim Noah fella is a beast. He's the son of tennis great Yannick Noah and his athlete wife (don't remember who she is...other than she was a helluva athlete). The center for UCLA, Hollins appears to be underrated. He seems to stretch out like Tay.

I have a feeling Joe won't blow this one. Whatever we do....go big!

It's a good year for Minnesota to flop since we've got their 2nd rounder (currently @ 38)... with the draft depth this pick could be similar to a 12-20 pick... it's only 8 picks after the first rounder we would have had.
It should make for an excellent trading chip for a young vet.
What are we gonna do with two 2nd rounders?
I'd say go for a project that has excellent defensive abilities... either at center or PG... maybe they can polish their "O" game in the D-League for a couple years.
No offense only guys!

Noah's wife was a Swedish model. Red Hot.

What ever we do, no more Euros (unless we're talking about the 2nd round). I DO like Micro's pick (Saer Sene) for our late 1st rounder tho.
Don't you mean no white guys? Saer Sene plays in Europe. What about him makes you like him but not other "Euros"? The guy averages 10 minutes a game, 3.3ppg, and 4rpg for his euroleague team, and he's a worse free throw shooter than Ben Wallace.

BTW, NBADraft.net has his stock now up to a 14th pick. Though he seems like one of those guys that could either get picked in the top 10 or the bottom could fall out. I as well think he'd be worth a shot later in the round, but I don't see why you say "no more euros (unless it's the 2nd round)" then offer up Sene with our 1st rounder.

exactly, freshprince...

grab the best talent...hell, I don't care if it comes from Antartica. :)

So much for Sene, he had 9 blocks the other day at the Nike Hoops summit (tying KG's record), and the hype bandwagon has officially started rolling. I imagine that means he'll probably come out now while he's "the next big thing".

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1263

First Cedric Simmons declares, now Sene. I'll be pissed if this "Orlando Pick" draft gets continues to get watered down. All of the bigs are entering earlier than expected.

Well, I did notice that Saer Sene is one of the ten most searched terms when people find PF.com from Google, MSN and Yahoo.

Go figure. In some miniscule way, we helped fuel the hype with this thread. :doh:

Well, I did notice that Saer Sene is one of the ten most searched terms when people find PF.com from Google, MSN and Yahoo.

Go figure. In some miniscule way, we helped fuel the hype with this thread. :doh:

Actually thats pretty cool, good job Micro...lol

Actually thats pretty cool, good job Micro...lol
Purely coincidental (accidental?). You wouldn't believe how many folks hit this site for information on Urgeth Urbina...

http://www.pistonsforum.com/tigers-baseball/690-ugeth-urbina-arrested-attempted-murder.html

Anyway, BACK TO THE DRAFT!

2007 is awfully far away. This year? If James Augustine of Illinois was hanging around in the 2nd I might go for him. He's got a nice motor for a big guy.

Dale Davis,Joey Harrington,Alan Tramell,Bison Dele,Frank Tanana,Pet Rocks,Spruce Goose,Funkadelic

Anything to help a friend.

What's wrong with euros? Are you a Euro-hater? Darko's problem is that he's a project. He needed time in the oven and we ran him through the microwave.

We didn't run him through the microwave. We left him on the shelf--the one down in the basement. :ohwell:

ESPN.com - NBA - Chinese prospect Yi gets permission to enter '07 draft (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2648042)

I want the Pistons to draft this guy.


Yi Jianlian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Jianlian)

NBADraft.net - Yi Jianlian (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/yijianlian.html)

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7295/yijianlian10tj2.jpg

Yi JianLian - Google Video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4970613079836271270&q=Yi+Jianlian&hl=en)

Yi Jianlian Mix Tape - Google Video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5733820517329789196&q=Yi+Jianlian&hl=en)
YouTube - Nba Draft Prospect: Yi JianLian (http://youtube.com/watch?v=A6plJTvMW04&mode=related&search)=

His scouting report looks AWFULLY FAMILIAR. His clips look like a cross between Barigani and Delfino.

Yi JianLian - Google Video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4970613079836271270&q=Yi+Jianlian&hl=en)

Yi Jianlian Mix Tape - Google Video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5733820517329789196&q=Yi+Jianlian&hl=en)
YouTube - Nba Draft Prospect: Yi JianLian (http://youtube.com/watch?v=A6plJTvMW04&mode=related&search)=

Okay . . . the videos of his in-game performance are a nice start. I'm seeing an aggressive, athletic big man with good court awareness and a nice touch around the basket. But we won't know the real deal until we get the breathless insider report from a private workout session.

Okay . . . the videos of his in-game performance are a nice start. I'm seeing an aggressive, athletic big man with good court awareness and a nice touch around the basket. But we won't know the real deal until we get the breathless insider report from a private workout session.


Yeah. I'm reserving opinion until I hear what Chad Ford has to say.

Just so you know, Yi's generally thought to be several years older than his reported age. He's also going to need a ton of weight work and there will always be crap to deal with in terms of China demanding he play constantly every offseason.

Yeah, but how cool would it be for us to have a guaranteed all-star every season?

This is all part of my global expansion policy!

yi: 2 pts 1 reb 36% shooting 3 TO......ALL STAR!!! Starting for the EAst!!!

We should trade a pick for a young big that is starting to come on (DMC is not an option) just so we can retain bird rights... the picks are too much of a crap shoot... why not snag someone that has been developed on someone elses nickel.

but who? and if they were good, why would they give him up for another pick?

I kinda like the kid but if he comes here its over. He'll be a failure...he doesn't have Darko's youth.

but who? and if they were good, why would they give him up for another pick?
This is where creative accounting comes in... first you need to deal with a tight fisted owner that will be in the tax if they re-sign their young big... give them an expiring (D.D.) and a pick
Or you can deal with a team that has excessive bigs:
Boston- Perkins
Wizards- Haywood
Dallas- Diop
S.A.- Butler, Elson
Seattle- Wilcox, Petro
Warriors- Biedrins, O'Bryant
Lakers- Kwame

Elson in interesting. A type of guy that Dumars likes....big, agile big guy.

Kwame...hell no...can we get Bynum instead?

I liked Perkins but I'm losing it for him.

I'm down with grooming Amir. He should be the answer.

Do we really want him?

ESPN.com - NBA - Chinese prospect Yi gets permission to enter '07 draft (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2648042)

This is where creative accounting comes in... first you need to deal with a tight fisted owner that will be in the tax if they re-sign their young big... give them an expiring (D.D.) and a pick
Or you can deal with a team that has excessive bigs:
Boston- Perkins
Wizards- Haywood
Dallas- Diop
S.A.- Butler, Elson
Seattle- Wilcox, Petro
Warriors- Biedrins, O'Bryant
Lakers- Kwame

I've watched the last few Sonics games, and my impression so far is that Petro doesn't know how to play, and Wilcox is a beast. This guy looks like a bargain for the 25 or 30 mill the Sonics are paying him.

we don't need another big

why not linwood?
I think we will be looking for a PG. 3 way trade with Mil and Utah so we get deron.lol. ok I'm off my fantasy meets reality kick

Kwame...hell no...can we get Bynum instead?
I like Bynum's upside better also... but the Lakers are real high on him...
As for Kwame I think it's a good idea to see where he is today vs. his past... he had a solid year... his problems was nervous energy.... he was starting to let the game come to him and it showed.... he should be a solid pro from this point.

Kwame is someone you sign for the MLE not trade draft picks for...I agree that bynum ain't going anywhere unless we pay mad dollars but like we never do that.

why not linwood?
I think we will be looking for a PG. 3 way trade with Mil and Utah so we get deron.lol. ok I'm off my fantasy meets reality kick

I guess I should have asked: "Does this guy really want to play for us?"

Here's a little quote from his handlers:

"We always support our players in joining high-quality overseas leagues," said vice president Hu Jiashi, who added it was important for Yi to get a lot of playing time.


"If he is going to be stuck on the bench, it would be better if he stayed at home."

I think our window is closing so our run for the title reasoning will have to be scrutinized and a more developmental approach should be considered.

I guess I should have asked: "Does this guy really want to play for us?"

Here's a little quote from his handlers:

A more concerning part for me was:

Yi says the prospect of playing in the NBA is not as exciting as people expect.

yi: 2 pts 1 reb 36% shooting 3 TO......ALL STAR!!! Starting for the EAst!!!

He was saying guaranteed all-star b/c he would get a billion votes from China every year, not b/c of his stats...

Dude....That IS what I'm saying too!! that's why I said Starting for the East. :chopper:

I like Bynum's upside better also... but the Lakers are real high on him...

Have to toot my horn on this one. This was the cat I told everybody about long before he got drafted (thanx to my peeps in NJ).

This may be a good year to nab a rook or two. By all accounts this is a deep draft. For grins, I'll throw out two names. Josh McRoberts and Hasheem Thabeet. Thats assuming we don't need a PG.

I don't think we'll draft a PG unless its a no brainers type.

The chance of getting a quality PG later in the draft are much better than getting solid big (of course there are exceptions)... If we get a chance to draft 6 -15 it should be for a center (yes Darko could end up better than what we end up with)... I'd like to see a 7'er that you can dump it down to and he knows what to do with it... he should also mobile on D.

If we get a late first rounder (maybe mid to late) the guy I want us looking at is Acie Law. He's the point guard for Texas A&M. His shooting numbers were down last year, but he's a great leader, quick with the ball end to end, and an excellent penetrator.

No way knowing what we'll do this early, of course, and if I had to bet I would say we won't have both picks come draft time (either ours or Orlando's will be traded).

The Magic watch is on... current record 1-2 (after losing to the Hawks today)

If we get a chance to draft 6 -15 it should be for a center.

I'd like to see a 7'er that you can dump it down to and he knows what to do with it... he should also mobile on D

Now we talkin! Off the top of my head there appears to be 7 or 8 good "big" men comin out next draft. All of em ain't centers, but we outta be able to snag one of em.

(yes Darko could end up better than what we end up with)

I'd take that bet.

Even if I lost, this rook will still be better for US than Darko was.

Mustafa Shakur has really picked up his game this year and is projected at NBADraft.net (as of today) to be a mid-second round pick.

ESPN.com: Arizona Wildcats - Mustafa Shakur Player Card (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=15141)

The Pistons worked him out last year but passed on him. Everyone loves a Lute Olsen (Arizona) player, so I think he will either get some interest with the Pistons second round pick if still available,get drafted higher (the Pistons own 1st rounder) or totally ignored if they saw something they didn't like. The kid has the size and scoring skills to play in Flip's offense.

Mustafa Shakur has really picked up his game this year and is projected at NBADraft.net (as of today) to be a mid-second round pick.

ESPN.com: Arizona Wildcats - Mustafa Shakur Player Card (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=15141)

The Pistons worked him out last year but passed on him. Everyone loves a Lute Olsen (Arizona) player, so I think he will either get some interest with the Pistons second round pick if still available,get drafted higher (the Pistons own 1st rounder) or totally ignored if they saw something they didn't like. The kid has the size and scoring skills to play in Flip's offense.


Looks like Mustafa and the Cats come to Washington on January 4th. I'm going to see if I can snag some tickets for this game. If I can, I will give a scouting report.

theres a bunch of SF's going in the 15-20 range. wouldnt mind one of those so we can finally get a backup for Tay.

NBAdraft.net has Joe utilizing the "shotgun approach" in drafting 3 point guards with our three picks.

The highlights.

15 -Stuckey drafted with Nick Young and Acie Law still on the board.

27-Aaron Brooks? drafted with literally everyone else including Morris Almond on the board. What a vote of confidence for your #15 pick front office guys.

And then we throw the #57 away with yet another PG fresh off of hip surgery?

Are these guys for real or is this their vote of disconfidence in Joe Dumars?

i find nbadraft.net the off-est of the mocks.

Living off their rep. I can dig it. I hope to one day have a rep worth living off of. :)

I like their information. its not entirely inaccurate. but its not looking at every team as closely as some others seem to be.

Living off their rep. I can dig it. I hope to one day have a rep worth living off of. :)

I guess they are the "Detroit Pistons" of mock draft boards.


:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:

It shouldn't be too difficult to construct a matrix with team needs (by position) and player value intersecting to show maybe a less popular mock, but certainly one that is a conversation starter.

Joe will not draft 3 PGs. When Lindsey retires we will actually become a more organized offensive team. lmao

I would love to see us luckily get that 6'11 Yi Jianlian..but i doubt he will fall to 15th pick

I have a feeling we will get a mega athletic SF. If you look at how the draft seems to be shaking out, Minny is reported to be favoring Hawes, Atlanta; Crittenton at 11, LA Clippers possibly Law...you end up pushing the other guys down. Stuckey over Thornton? I dunno. They want a guy that can create his own shot. so it could be feasible to get a scoring wing.

If you want to know who we plan on drafting listen to McCoskey when he is on WDFN. He called the Jason Maxiell pick, and nobody was expecting that one.

McCosky and Bob Wojnowski (Wojo).

They both have the inside track on the local team's picks. Wojnowski does this thing where they play this music and he keeps saying OHM, OHM and they call him Wojodamus. He picked the Ernie Sims pick for the Lions, and the Calvin Johnson pick this year I believe.

I have a feeling we will get a mega athletic SF. If you look at how the draft seems to be shaking out, Minny is reported to be favoring Hawes, Atlanta; Crittenton at 11, LA Clippers possibly Law...you end up pushing the other guys down. Stuckey over Thornton? I dunno. They want a guy that can create his own shot. so it could be feasible to get a scoring wing.


Al is my guy. I saw him play 4 times this year. A video snack...

Google Video result for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBBBw3OoFrQ (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6345644182679852724&q=al+thornton&total=73&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1)

IMO we need to come away with our next PG. We will probably never draft this high until the wheels come off. SF's are plentiful and easy to come by. but the talent difference may be too high to pass up an al type player.

Here is a couple predictions from sites:

DraftExpress: Mock Draft (http://www.draftexpress.com/mymock.php?page=official)

2007 NBA Mock Draft - HoopsVibe (http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba/nba-draft/2007-nba-mock-draft-ar23523.html)

2007 NBA DRAFT | MOCK DRAFT ver 7.0 | HOOPSWORLD.com | NBA News and Information | powered by Basketball News Services (http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22267.shtml)

InsideHoops.com - NBA Mock Draft (http://www.insidehoops.com/nba-mock-draft.shtml)


I was watching a few Greg Oden interviews, I came across one where he expresses that he thinks staying in college will help him develope more so he is ready for NBA, i wonder what happend..maby his ego grew...

Ideas: (IF AL THORTON IS NOT AVAILABLE)-Tiago Spliter | Spencer Hawes

#27 Pick-Solid 1/2 backup

i dunno man. its like $12 million. who wouldn't?

I really hate all of this Tiago Splitter prediction stuff in some mock draft. The guy seems like a stiff.

I really hate all of this Tiago Splitter prediction stuff in some mock draft. The guy seems like a stiff.

It's just Darko PTSD. :MusicBigGrin: Lots of us suffer from it.

It's just Darko PTSD. :MusicBigGrin: Lots of us suffer from it.

That DPTSD can be a serious problem. People need to recognize the symptoms early and seek treatment.

Tiago looks OK. One of a handfull of bigmen where we are drafting who could play for us early and better yet, he would help keep us from looking like Atlanta north.

The question would be, could he play ahead of Nazr?

I found a funny Tiago video. Spends half the time showing him shooting free throws - even a slow mo replay of a free throw.

YouTube - Tiago Splitter /Player draft NBA 2007 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFjeWYbfxBs)

That DPTSD can be a serious problem. People need to recognize the symptoms early and seek treatment.

Tiago looks OK. One of a handfull of bigmen where we are drafting who could play for us early and better yet, he would help keep us from looking like Atlanta north.

The question would be, could he play ahead of Nazr?

I found a funny Tiago video. Spends half the time showing him shooting free throws - even a slow mo replay of a free throw.

YouTube - Tiago Splitter /Player draft NBA 2007 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFjeWYbfxBs)

Would anyone want Nazr? I mean, like if Tiago falls past pick 20 or so, would someone flip flop choices with us if we added Nazr? So for example we send pick #27 and Nazr and get pick #22 or something and take Tiago. I'd take the risk there, but #15 for Tiago makes me nervous (DPTSD).

Nazr's contract is pure poison. Looking at it on HoopsHype spreadsheet...it looks like it goes on forever.

One possible out for Joe may be a sucker more desperate for a big after FA signing period.

Draft night would be tough. We would likely have to move down to get rid of Nazr..."here's our 27 and Nazr for your 39"

Ugh.

I would love to trade Nazr + 2nd round pick + #27 pick to move up a few spots. Anyone think a team would buy that??

Anyways, as far as the #15 pick goes I say if Acie Law or Crittenton are still available then take either one of them. And if Thaddeus Young or Al Thorton are available take one of them. So it basically comes down to who is still on the board when we pick. I would love to have one of these four players though

Marko Tomas for a second round steal?

DraftExpress Profile: Marko Tomas (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=51)

althletic shooter.. considered one of the best shooters in the draft.. 6'8 with a nice vertical leap and quick running the floor.

lol and trade nazr+flip+second round pick for like the 30 pick in the first round :)

What about a Nick Young or Al Thornton at 15 and petteri Koponen at 27?

At Yahoo Sports, one of their experts was asked who (of the unknown guys) we (fans) would be talking about down the road. The guy didn't hesitate when he mentioned Rodney Stucky. He also mentioned the draft promise that Joe has reportedly given.

At Yahoo Sports, one of their experts was asked who (of the unknown guys) we (fans) would be talking about down the road. The guy didn't hesitate when he mentioned Rodney Stucky. He also mentioned the draft promise that Joe has reportedly given.

It wouldn't be out of character for Joe to do something like this. We know he did it with Maxiell.

I wonder if Joe would have committed to taking him at the 15th spot or the 27th? Telling the kid he's got a first round contract locked up (27th pick) would be useful feedback for a youngster deciding whether to stay in the draft.

I doubt that Joe would commit the 15th pick, because some other significant talent could fall to us at that spot.

Joe said that he wants a player who can come in right now and play, that can get his own shot. There are 2 players who are for the most part definites in that area, Stuckey and Nick Young. Stuckey is more ideal because he can play both guard positions, but Nick Young is very intiguing, and has a 7' wing span at 6'6".

Do you take Stuckey at #15 if Law, Thornton, or Crittenton are available?? Man it'd be hard for me to draft Stuckey ahead of any one of those three guys. But If he's available at #27, then it's a no brainer.

It wouldn't be out of character for Joe to do something like this. We know he did it with Maxiell.

I wonder if Joe would have committed to taking him at the 15th spot or the 27th? Telling the kid he's got a first round contract locked up (27th pick) would be useful feedback for a youngster deciding whether to stay in the draft.

I doubt that Joe would commit the 15th pick, because some other significant talent could fall to us at that spot.

Looking back over the last 10 years the 15th has not been a great pick. But this year there is a good chance for a very good player to fall into our lap.

Looking back over the last 10 years the 15th has not been a great pick. But this year there is a good chance for a very good player to fall into our lap.

True. But if you go back a few years and check 15-20 there were a lot of very good players drafted.

Do you take Stuckey at #15 if Law, Thornton, or Crittenton are available?? Man it'd be hard for me to draft Stuckey ahead of any one of those three guys. But If he's available at #27, then it's a no brainer.

Stuckey v Crittenton

I haven't seen either of them play, but would you really take Crittenton over Stuckey? Here are some of my thoughts, based on only what I've read.

1) Crittenton is not as tall as advertised. He's 6'3-1/2" per combine measurements. Stuckey is 6'3-3/4" with greater wingspan.

2) Crittenton has only played one year of college ball, and was not consistent in his performance. He may be a couple year project before he's ready to play regular minutes in the NBA.

3) Joe wants someone who is ready to play now.

4) Stuckey's played two years and has been consistent in what he does best - score. And he's dished out 5 assists per game.

5) Crittenton has presumably played against better competition in his one year, than Stuckey has in his two.

6) Stuckey could barely keep his team's record over 0.500.

Given the evidence, I still think Joe would take a pass on Crittenton at 15 in favor of someone that is more ready to contribute next year. Maybe that player is Stuckey. Hopefully, it's someone even better.