Prediction for the main course:

Michigan State 34
Hawaii 10


Wishful thinking for dessert:

Notre Dame 20
U of Michigan 19
(Not a Notre Dame fan but I'll take anyone over the blue team):p


MSU tee shirt...check
MSU sweatshirt...check
Spartan cap...check

I'm really curious. Almost everyone on here loves the Pistons, but are we divided evenly across the MSU and U of M lines? Who likes which school (if either).

(Not a Notre Dame fan but I'll take anyone over the blue team):p


My sentiments exactly...I'm a State alum. Go Green! :)

Big UofM fan here. If Michigan keeps playing like they are at the moment (down 14-3 at halftime) you may just get your wish.

BTW - Michigan State 34
Hawaii 10

Didn't State lose to those bums last year? I see a little deja-vu in your very near future. Oh, and a huge comeback for MI. :boxing:

Hawaii - 31
State - 17

Michigan - 27
Notre Dame - 24

Is this going to be an MSU vs. UM kind of place? Well, UM is getting its tail kicked by Notre Dame. As usual, the preseason prognosticaters have seriously overestimated Michigan. I root casually for both UM and MSU as I'm not an alum of either school. Used to be a big UM fan, but I can't stand Lloyd Carr. I expect MSU to beat UM in Ann Arbor this season. Herrmann's defense couldn't sack a quarterback even if the opposing team's offensive line laid down instantaneously and led UM's defense by hand into the backfield.

Zoso: U of M doesn't have braylon to bail them out this year. I'm already calling my buddies in Michigan and offering my heartfelt "sympathies." LMAO. They are letting their answering machines pick up though. They know not to answer. It's gonna be the year of the Spartan. ***doing happy dance*** I'm sorry to hear you are a Meeechigan fan Zoso, you always had seemed like such a sensible guy. (You know I'm just talking this smack for fun and don't really mean any of this)

Gazoo: May those words go directly from your lips to God's ears! :)

I cheer for U of M regardless.

State is a sorry excuse for a college town. I really hope they don't do well this year, or there'll be riots. Or is that if they do poorly? I don't remember.

(I even cheer for OSU when they're playing State)

lol. Yeah they riot regardless. :whistle: It's like:clock: work. Every year you can count on MSU folks being investigated for destroying something and U of M folks being investigated for recruiting violations or perjury. :nono:

Zoso: U of M doesn't have braylon to bail them out this year. I'm already calling my buddies in Michigan and offering my heartfelt "sympathies." LMAO. They are letting their answering machines pick up though. They know not to answer. It's gonna be the year of the Spartan. ***doing happy dance*** I'm sorry to hear you are a Meeechigan fan Zoso, you always had seemed like such a sensible guy. (You know I'm just talking this smack for fun and don't really mean any of this)

Hey man, you're preaching to the choir. It's going to be a tough year for UofM. Their defense is terrible, as ggazoo mentioned, and will most likely be the reason why they don't go anywhere this season. :ohwell:

State is a sorry excuse for a college town.

The MSU campus is beautiful and is a TRUE campus as compared to UM. East Lansing is a nice town. Don't let a few nutjobs and the Detroit media bias toward UM skew your perspective.

And speaking of nutjobs, what's with all the flashers around UM?

And then there's the subject of basketball :eyebrows:

You tell em' detteam. Plus we have most of the pretty girls.

btw... U of M has a basketball team???????? I didn't see them in the NCAA tournament last year. Were they in the NIT or something?

"The MSU campus is beautiful and is a TRUE campus as compared to UM. East Lansing is a nice town. Don't let a few nutjobs and the Detroit media bias toward UM skew your perspective."

I speak from experience.

East Lansing sucks. No culture, no sense of self-respect. Maybe the campus is well maintained, but the rest of the town is a hole.

Ann Arbor is a real town, whether the college was there or not, there would still be a nice town.

If MSU moved out of East Lansing, the town would be as much of a dump as the rest of Lansing... no strike that... it would be the projects of Lansing.

Now that I don't have any friends attending MSU or LCC, the only reason I'd go to that town would be Elderly Instruments (the best guitar store in the world).

It's gonna be the year of the Spartan.

Well, the good thing about being a Spartan football fan is that your expectations are typically pretty low. The bad thing about being a UM fan is the expectations are high and they are rarely fulfilled. I lived in California and attended the Rose Bowl when UM beat Washington State for the national title back in Jan. '98. Best sporting event I've ever been to. Woodson saved Carr that day. I figured a win like that would usher in an attitude in the UM football program to try and win national championships every season. But all I ever hear is that "we hope to win the Big 10 championship." It could be that UM wants academics to stay in the forefront and not be thought of a football factory, unlike Ohio State, which has no academic credibility.

Ann Arbor is too crowded and everything from hot dogs to houses are wayyyyy over priced. They do have one thing though...Zingermanns (sp?)deli. **salivating at the thought**

BTW -

Didn't State lose to those bums last year? I see a little deja-vu in your very near future. Oh, and a huge comeback for MI. :boxing:

Hawaii - 31
State - 17

Michigan - 27
Notre Dame - 24

Yea but last year they had Timmy Chang. Thats quite the difference. And they suck this year. I dont think we would be 34 point favorites if they were as good as last year.:rolleyes:

Oh yea I forgot......

Michigan's gonna LOSE!:pound: 17-10 with 3 minutes left.

Oh wait, its the officials fault right, my bad:rolleyes: .
What happened to that "high powered offense"??


oh man i'm lovin this....

Yeah, it was the officials fault or else the fans wouldn't have littered the field with debris!

Don't worry wolverines, the Spartans will do the job for you against big bad Notre Dame next week!!!!!!

28 - zip at the half. Gotta love it! :laser:Hawaii

Well, what can I say? No, it wasn't the officials. The team just flat out choked. Simple as that. Watch that #3 ranking drop like a rock now, as it should. Heck, we all know it was way too high to begin with. It will hurt them in the rankings the most that they lost a home game to such a low ranked team.

Michigan always loses at least one game a year that they shouldn't. UofM fans have to hope that was the one game this year, but it probably isn't. They'll probably drop one or even two more, wouldn't suprise me at all really, with the way the defense is playing.

What I'd like to know is what was the deal with the starting RB (his name escapes me. Hart maybe?) not playing? That was interesting.

I was talking to a friend on MSN early in the game. He told me their rb got hurt. I think that was his name (Hart).

Yeah, they were ranked too high to start the year after losing so many key players. They looked pretty bad and had lots of chances to win. I was kind of surprised they didn't pull it out given their history.

Even after a loss I still admit to being a UM fan.:violin: Losing Hart hurt but they had thier chances on offense they blew it the defense didn't do great but gave them the turnover towards the end they didn't capatilize.

They were imo way overranked,like tater siad to many key loses.I don't particularly like State except now that I been transplanted into green country driving through campus on a warm day watching the half-nekkid hootches runnin around.Guess East Lansing is good for something a couple months out the year.

But even with all the problems UM has

UM-26

:sick: MSU-21

I'm not brazen enough to predict a Spartan victory over U of M in Ann Arbor three weeks in advance. :bolt:

That one is gonna be a toughie.

**thinking of a prediction for next weeks Notre Dame game**

"The MSU campus is beautiful and is a TRUE campus as compared to UM. East Lansing is a nice town. Don't let a few nutjobs and the Detroit media bias toward UM skew your perspective."

I speak from experience.

East Lansing sucks. No culture, no sense of self-respect. Maybe the campus is well maintained, but the rest of the town is a hole.

Ann Arbor is a real town, whether the college was there or not, there would still be a nice town.

If MSU moved out of East Lansing, the town would be as much of a dump as the rest of Lansing... no strike that... it would be the projects of Lansing.

Now that I don't have any friends attending MSU or LCC, the only reason I'd go to that town would be Elderly Instruments (the best guitar store in the world).

As a PF.com representative, I would think you would be keeping your comments in check.

There is a difference between rooting for your favorite team and throwing in a few rival barbs...vs chastising an entire town based on "your experience" and the economic situation they have been faced with due to the new global-economy (specifically...related to the auto industry). Do you also feel like bagging on Detroit & Flint or other communities that have suffered from changes in the auto industry over the last two decades, as the Lansing area has? If so, bring it on. I'd like to hear your thoughts. I'm sure the people that live in those areas (including..."the projects"...)would like to hear them too.

I'm sorry if East Lansing doesn't fill your cultural bill. Perhaps you should suggest to the owner of "the best guitar store in the world" that he/she move the business to the 'heart' of Michigan culture and pristineness.

The arrogant A-hole moniker UM/AA has developed over the years is alive and well in your comments.

food4thot

Congrats on a good game today by the Spartans. Didn't see it, of course, out here in Conn., but I saw the stats and looks like Stanton had a little better day than Chad Henne. :) MSU is getting out of the chute quickly, which they sorely needed this season. I'm hoping UM recovers from this ND loss, but I'm also sort of hoping someone will get some smelling salts and wave them under the nose of the UM AD. Maybe the athletic dept. will wake up and realize UM should consider a coaching change. UM simply gets outplayed and outcoached in the big games. :frusty:

On the 'blue' end of the state college football spectrum, what does Carr do now? The D played reasonably well in contrast to last week, but is the O toast without Hart?

Did Hart's injury turn out to be serious? I had heard earlier that it was a quad or something and he would be back in a week.

always been a spartan fan, but i root for both teams and the big 10 in general - hence wanting OSU to beat Texas. either way, MSU always seems to have ND's number, especially after ND beats UofM the week before. looking forward to that game!!

What a perfect week of football. M.S.U. wins (and as a bonus U of M and a couple other rivals lose), The Lions win (and the rest of the division loses), and my fantasy team wins (and I beat my good buddy who was trash talking). I hope it doesn't all go bad next week. :pray:

Upset for today:

Michigan State 27

Notre Dame 24


MSU ----> :laser: :boom:<-----Notre Dame


GO GREEN!!!!!!!!!!!

Whew. OK, I figured for sure they blew it. Somehow they won. Can somebody please tell me how overtime in college football works?? :confused:It looked like both teams get a chance to score from the other team's 25? I didn't watch the game on television and I don't even know if it was televised, but I usually watch the live play by plays on my computer. So is this how O.T. works? Is it a new rule or have I missed this my entire life?

Whew. OK, I figured for sure they blew it. Somehow they won. Can somebody please tell me how overtime in college football works?? :confused:It looked like both teams get a chance to score from the other team's 25? I didn't watch the game on television and I don't even know if it was televised, but I usually watch the live play by plays on my computer. So is this how O.T. works? Is it a new rule or have I missed this my entire life?

I'm not sure how long the current OT format has been around, but you've got the gist. The Spartans won today in the 1st OT. Had they kicked a field goal to tie it, the game would have gone to the 2nd OT round.

OK, thanks. :) I don't feel so :doh: not knowing about it if it's a new rule.

I half watched the game while I was doing something else, but it seems as if the MSU offense has a lot of options. Stanton can run and throw. Teague was outstanding. The tall kid receiver (can't remember his name) made a lot of clutch catches. JLS probably shouldn't have gone for that long field goal since MSU's defense is still not great. But I give the Spartans a lot of credit. They could've folded after blowing a two-touchdown lead, but they didn't. They beat a quality team on the road, and UM lost to them at home. I gotta believe that MSU and OSU are the teams to beat in the Big 10. And Iowa, too. UM is a step below for sure, although I think UM's defense will improve, but everyone knows that Herrmann's D hasn't defended the mobile quarterbacks well.

UM is a step below for sure, although I think UM's defense will improve, but everyone knows that Herrmann's D hasn't defended the mobile quarterbacks well.
I heard a theory on the TV today about this. Because the "D" doesn't practice against a mobile QB, it makes it harder for them to execute on gameday.

Michigan is behind in both their recruiting (on offense) and offensive scheming. Football has changed in the last 3 years, and teams are spreading the field. That is NOT something that MU does well.

Congrats Spartys... that was a fun game to watch (no nails left to bite)... After ND tied it up I thought there was no chance of winning.

Not sure I like this OT format though... it just seems hokey as hell... it's like a hockey shootout... guess I'm a traditionalist... but I do totally agree with instant replay (within a reasonable time limit)... I believe the NBA should adopt it also.... I could just see LB falling on his ass throwing out the red flag :evil:

Go Blue ... Go Green ... may the best team come out on top and kick OSU's arse (sorry Buckeye).

but I do totally agree with instant replay (within a reasonable time limit)... I believe the NBA should adopt it also.... I could just see LB falling on his ass throwing out the red flag

Sheed would be yelling, "Throw that flag, Pound for Pound. I never touched him. Throw it now!"

MSU is ranked #17 in the AP :whoo:

They :bump2: a lot of teams. Hopefully there is not a big letdown next week. In the end,at this point, I think OSU is gonna win the big ten, but you never know.

MSU's secondary IS bad (but not as bad as the Lions :mad2: ).

Looking forward to the rest of the season, State may not be able to simply outscore their opponents.

The MSU secondary is short and fairly inexperienced. In considering that, my though turned to a possible remedy in passing situations.

I don't know who the last Div 1A player was to play both ways, but I thought about Matt Trannon as a possible solution in passing downs. The guy is experienced, athletic, TALL, has decent speed, and could put some fear into opposing receivers. He knows the routes so there's a good chance that he can cover them.

I think throwing him back there is worth a gamble by John L. After 487 yards by Quinn, SOMETHING has to be done to shore-up the obvious inadequacy in pass defense.

He might be willing to do it, but it probably wouldn't matter because I doubt John L. would consider something like that. I don't know if Trannon would have much left for the offense if he was running around covering people on every defensive series. It might be like "robbing Peter to pay Paul."

It's an interesting thought, but there must be a reason it isn't common to do that sort of thing even though many teams have deficiencies in one area or another.

I didn't watch the game on television. How bad is the secondary? I know they gave up those 41 points, but I thought they were doing ok until they started playing scared when they were up 38-17 with 5 to go in the 3rd.

The secondary IS bad...way too small...ND had 3 WR's at 6'5" and all of our defenders were 6' and less (I believe 2 starters are 5'9"...we have a 6'+ DB that is injured...I forget his name). Quinn shredded us over the last 1+ qtrs forcing the OT. The secondary is the biggest problem we face, followed by the kicking game (??...State has always had great punters & place-kickers going back to my days there when we had Morten Andersen).

John L's game plan mid-3rd qtr when we were up 38-17 was to not turn it over...he had no intention of scoring more points unless they were gifted...Stanton's passing game was put on the shelf. JLS was too scared to even run the option in fear of a fumble...thus the last 4-5 possessions were 3 & outs. He decided to rely on the D to bring the game to it's conclusion. He was wrong and we went to OT and lucked-out.

As far as Trannon goes, I'm only talking about obvious passing downs...especially the 4th & longs that Weis decided to play instead of kick...which we got burned on. ND's Quinn is good...God-forbid the Lions someday draft him and F him up like all the other decent collegiate QB's that they have found a way to mangle over the years

I think Smith is a really good coach, but it sounds like he needs to cut out his Mooch imitation (conservative play calling) and play to win. I read somewhere, very recently, that he does it in big games or on big plays (or something like that). That makes me believe he wouldn't be likely to risk putting in Trannon on a 4th down (big) play.

Of their remaining 8 games, they play 3 toughies against Purdue, OSU, and U of M. Luckily they avoid Wisconsin and Iowa. They had better be ready to put some major points on the board. They do have an excellent offense though. So maybe they lose to OSU, Purdue, and one of the 5 "easier" ones. That puts them at 8-3.

I can't figure out who John L. resembles more ... R. Lee Armey from "Full Metal Jacket," or The Green Goblin.

When he starts flashing that crazy, open-mouthed grimace it can go either way. But The Green Goblin is a great fit with the MSU colors, so that's my choice.

I can't figure out who John L. resembles more ... R. Lee Armey from "Full Metal Jacket," or The Green Goblin.

When he starts flashing that crazy, open-mouthed grimace it can go either way. But The Green Goblin is a great fit with the MSU colors, so that's my choice.

He reminds me more of McClean Stevenson of MASH fame.

Well, I dunno who John L. reminds me of, but I learned recently that he is a native of Idaho falls and coached at the University of Idaho for several years. So that's another reason for me to root for him.

This weekends prediction:NO LETDOWN

MSU 34

Illinois 24

:rockon:

Who needs defense when you can put up 61?

MSU 61 Illinois 14:rapture:



Get ready Wolverines!!!!!

True Blue fan here and the Wolverines better be prepared cuz the way State is playing we should be worried.

I truly believe State is the better team this year. However, U of M is always dangerous and even though they always claim the State game means no more than any other game, I don't believe it. They always play well against us. That game worries me.

I think U of M will play well. I think the way State plays at home will determine the outcome. Will they make lots of mistakes or play well like they have against other teams? They need to be ready too. I think they will be prepared, but will nerves get to them? Should be another classic on tap.

I want to see what happens tonight against Wisconsin before I predict the outcome of next weeks game. Either way, Michigan should be tough. A close loss to Wisconsin ticks them off and a victory gives them momentum and more to play for.

You're being way too diplomatic. State is gonna beat UM the way we shoulda beat Hussein in captivity. UM can't stop Stanton. At all.

Great avatar, Big Daddy.

DOGGONE it GAZOO! Shhhhhhhhhh. How many times do I hafta tell you to shhhhhhhhhhhhhh??? lmao:eyebrows:

I like State but I like UM too. All I can say is, don't count your chickens before they are hatched.

I agree Micro. All kidding aside it's going to be a great game. Either team could win.

Michigan will be out for blood. MSU is very confident. MSU just needs to be ready. IF they ARE ready and play well, it's gonna be the Green team smiling when it's all over.

:decision:ohhh....I can't do it. Truth is....

WE are gonna kick Meeeeeechigans BUTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Either team could win.

PUL...LEEEEZZZE look at the team stats thus far this season!

If State doesn't win by 2+ touchdowns, they should hang their heads...and snicker...NYUK NYUK NYUK!!

:rofl:

records, stats mean nothing when Michigan St. plays Michigan.

should be a good game.

records, stats mean nothing when Michigan St. plays Michigan.

should be a good game.

No classic this year. State's gonna put the hurt on UM in a big way...maybe one for the record books...and thus, usher Lloyd out of AA by the scruff of his neck.

I don't know what the spread is, but State will clobber them. If they win by less than 14, I'll be very surprised. 30+ is not out of the question.

..what a fall from grace.

Weren't these guys pre-season ranked #3. :tsk:

I still expect this game to be competitive.

I agree with Motown. You would think State would hammer them by a couple of touchdowns due to their great offense, but I'd be more shocked than not if it was an easy game. It's an intense rivalry and that often plays a factor. Expect Michigan to play them tough. Michigan wasn't exactly blown out by Notre Dame or Wisconsin. State is going to have to work hard to win it. And...I think they will.

Michigan can forget about the National championship and the Big Ten title is a longshot. But they still have hopes to beat their cross town rivals MSU, beat Ohio State. and of course bring home a trophy (the little brown Jug). :laugh::evil:

while i could worry that MSU would see they are favored and get complacent or over-confident, i don't see that happening (yeah i'm a spartan fan). the reason? blowing the 17-point lead with 6 minutes left to michigan last year. that was a better michigan team and the spartans still had them on the ropes.

i just can't see michigan winning this game. their defense is suspect and has trouble against the spread offense, stanton is much better this year, and michigan is too conservative on offense...they're going to need a lot of big plays to compete, but they don't have the balls, and they don't have braylon edwards to bail them out.

MSU had over 30 plays last week that went for 10 or more yards (and Ringer is sick wow) ... how many has UofM had the entire season?

ESPN poll of 15 analysts have Stanton at #5 in the Heisman race right now.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/um/0509/27/D01-329192.htm

Should we root for him to win it? Isn't winning that particular award sort of like being on the cover of Sports Illustrated?:boom:

Should we root for him to win it? Isn't winning that particular award sort of like being on the cover of Sports Illustrated?:boom:


I must say, your comment has confused me a bit. Are you being facetious?

The Heisman Trophy, to me, is the greatest individual award a football player, college or pro can attain. The award is legendary and is based on so many defining and great attributes, which include: athleticism, dedication, knowledge of the game, instinct, leadership, heart and, last but not least, statistics...which are the end result of all the afore mentioned. Heisman winners have shown their ability to make their entire teams better. They have turned possible mediocre seasons into excellent ones for their respective universities and all of their following.

Stanton has led an unranked preseason team to national attention...maybe one of the biggest surprise teams in a long while. I don't see Stanton actually winning the trophy regardless of his numbers...unless, miracle-of-miracles occurs and State wins the NC...given the two primary HT candidates USC has.

To compare winning the trophy to merely being on the SI cover is blasphemy. But that's just my opinion.


GO GREEN!!!

Yes, I was being facetious.

You've heard of the Sports Illustrated curse? People or teams getting their pictures on the cover of that magazine have a history of going into prolonged slumps, getting injured, etc. shortly after the issue comes out. It's known as the "Sports Illustrated curse" and athletes joke about not wanting to be on the cover.

Similarly, many Heisman winners end up being busts after leaving college. So I was joking that we did not want to put the whammy on Drew.

Of course winning the Heisman is a great honor, and I do think Stanton deserves some consideration for the award. :thumb:

Yes, I was being facetious.

You've heard of the Sports Illustrated curse? People or teams getting their pictures on the cover of that magazine have a history of going into prolonged slumps, getting injured, etc. shortly after the issue comes out. It's known as the "Sports Illustrated curse" and athletes joke about not wanting to be on the cover.

Similarly, many Heisman winners end up being busts after leaving college. So I was joking that we did not want to put the whammy on Drew.

Of course winning the Heisman is a great honor, and I do think Stanton deserves some consideration for the award. :thumb:

Yeah, like the Madden curse.

Charlie Ward is a classic example. I think he might be the only Hesisman winner to not get drafted?????

OK guys, almost time for the showdown in East Lansing.

Are any of you U of M fans willing to make a wager on the game with the Spartan fans (who are willing to participate)? Here's the deal:

We bet on Saturdays game. WHEN...err, I mean IF State wins then all U of M fans brave enough to participate must sport a Spartan avatar for a full 48 hours following the victory (Let's say until Monday 6:00 pm eastern time).

If the unthinkable happens and MU pulls it out, then I and any other State fans who participate will sport the MU logo for that time period.

OK, so anyone interested please sign up. Anyone too chicken to do so shouldn't be talking smack after the game.:hand:

Thank you to Micro for being kind enough to get us these avatars before the game. Out of respect for this forum and for each other let's keep the smack fun and lighthearted and not get personal. It got pretty ugly at the other place, but I know most of the people here are way above that kind of stuff.

I am a Wolverine fan all the way but as of the loss to ND I knew the season was a washout. Even though it was a non conference loss I could tell we were in trouble. The loss of Hart was huge. Teams had to respect the run but now they don’t. Henne also does not have the bail out receiver this year in #1 B.E. nobody has really stepped up for that role either. This does not by any standard count for an excuse but Henne is just a sophomore and by all rights he should be still holding a clipboard not in the huddle. Yes he had a great year last year but that was all Braylon baby. I think he is a great young QB but he just isn’t ready.

Without a playoff 1 loss teams are on the bubble a 2 loss team is done. This game is all about bragging rights this year so Spartys enjoy it next year is another story. UM will still pull in the recruits (unless we lose like 5 games) and UM will still be UM with its tradition of having great teams that have a shot at a crown every year. Carr will not lose his job (as if 1 bad year could do it) because he has had way to much success up until now. He would have to pull a Gary Moeller in order to get fired. All I can say is I hope they can keep it going (Yes I rooted for the Spartys in bball2) and get a chance to play for a big 1. Final score MSU 38 UM 24

awwww, c'mon Abe. Put em up. :boxing:

Michigan worries me. I very well may end up eating crow on this one. I want to agree with your score (38 - 24). I think that's what it should be, but something tells me Michigan is going to make it closer. I'll post my prediction tomorrow.

Well, I guess if nobody takes the bet I won't have to worry about wearing Blue for two days.

The fact that i am conceeding a loss should make you happy enough but if you want me to put my dukes up then I will say this Stanton goes down midway through the second after a vicious hit by woodley . happy ? But I still give the Spartys the win 38 to 24

Oh well...I don't get you guys. I honestly think it's going to be close and wouldn't be surprised to see Michigan pull it off. They are going to play with passion.

I gotta go with my alma mater and the Spartan offense, though.

Michigan State 34

U of M 27

Avatar deal is off since there were no takers.

MSU 45 UM 13

Isn't the game on ABC? We've got the Texas game on out here.

Texas v. Missouri is being shown in certain parts of the country. Looks like Idaho is getting that game for whatever reason. UM just marched 98 yards for a TD.

Isn't the game on ABC? We've got the Texas game on out here.

It's on ABC here in G.R. UofM just scored. 7-0 :)

They have some Mormon conference televised in Idaho. So we aren't getting the game. Figures.

Maybe that's good, lol. Down 14 - 7. Lots of time left, but obviously Sparties are not happy right now with the way Michigan's putting it to us.

Let's go Brown! (Blue & Green)

Man I can't decide on this one... Usually root for the team with the best chance to go to the Rose Bowl.
Mixed emitions... like watching your mother inlaw drive over the cliff in your brand new Corvette.

Clearly, UM is a different team with/without Hart. The defenses are atrocious. Over 800 yards in offense run up. This is a painful game to watch for the "traditionalists."

I did not get his name but that run on the fumble recovery by the 320 pount Samoan, was one of the best examples of a runner and his blockers working together. Man, he used his blockers perfectly and while he stayed right with them, kept watching his 'rear-view mirror' to make sure no one was catching up. And then he hurdled right into the end zone.

Great run, no matter who I was rooting for.

Let's go Brown! (Blue & Green)

Man I can't decide on this one... Usually root for the team with the best chance to go to the Rose Bowl.
Mixed emitions... like watching your mother inlaw drive over the cliff in your brand new Corvette.

LMAO Merc

Congratulations to U of M!!!! You came into our place and took care of business.

I think you should give the game ball to our kicker instead of Hart.

Yeah, the kicking game wasn't too good for MSU. Pretty exciting play when the Big Samoan rumbled all the way for that touchdown. UM actually did a decent job of neutralizing Stanton in some respects. He only rushed for four yards on seven attempts and he threw some questionable passes. I still think MSU gives OSU more problems than UM will. Hopefully, one of the teams, if not both, beat the Buckeyes.

I still think MSU gives OSU more problems than UM will. Hopefully, one of the teams, if not both, beat the Buckeyes.

I dunno Gazoo. I don't even want to think about OSU right now. MSU had their chance today.

U of M showed they were the better team. But no way will I root for U of M. I hope they lose to OSU and everyone they play before OSU. lol. I can't stand them. :mmph: Today just adds to it. Once again they :rain:ed on our parade. I feel :sick:. I'm not surprised...just disappointed.

records, stats mean nothing when Michigan St. plays Michigan.

should be a good game.

told ya. ;)

Hart is the man. Very consistent aggressive running style. Good game, except for all the choking.

The Spartans are back to controlling their own destiny after Michigan's loss to Minesota yesterday. Will MSU beat the Buckeyes at Ohio State next week? Almost every team in the Big Ten is capable of beating any other team on any given weekend. Very exciting...or frustrating, depending on how you view it.

Stay tuned...same bat time...same bat channel...

An Ohio State loss doesn't bode well for Michigan State. The Buckeyes are gonna be pissed. 'Course, the Spartans have had plenty of time to appear. Everyone on that Spartan defense should be thinking about Teddy Ginn Jr. 24/7. Can the Spartans win six in a row and wrap up the Big Ten title? I'd be surprised -- pleasantly.

An Ohio State loss doesn't bode well for Michigan State. The Buckeyes are gonna be pissed. 'Course, the Spartans have had plenty of time to appear. Everyone on that Spartan defense should be thinking about Teddy Ginn Jr. 24/7. Can the Spartans win six in a row and wrap up the Big Ten title? I'd be surprised -- pleasantly.

It probably won't happen. Not because they aren't capable...just because they are the Sparties. Sigh.

Ohio State, Penn State, Minnesota, etc. I just don't see it either.

Too many :bump:'s in the road. But hopefully they still have a great year.

Go Spartans!!!!

'Course, the Spartans have had plenty of time to appear.

This should say "prepare," not "appear." :doh:

This should say "prepare," not "appear." :doh:

Don't feel bad Gazoo. We all do it. I spelled Trammell's name wrong in the heading of a new thread I started once. It's like..."where the :censored: did the edit button go"??????? :laugh:

MSU vs. OSU.

Tough one to call. Great offense of the Spartans vs. great defense of the buckeyes. MSU's lousy defense vs. OSU's lousy offense.

I see OSU slowing Sparty down but not stopping them. OSU will score a few but wind up just short.

MSU....28
OSU...27
(wishful thinking perhaps?)


Penn State... 26
U of M... 24
(could go either way, but Penn looks awfully good)

Notre Dame...30
USC... 28
(I'm reaching here, lol)

MSU vs OSU

Here's an article with stats that show just how interesting this game will be:

http://www.detnews.com/2005/msu/0510/14/D01-348303.htm



The three games you predicted are ALL gonna be great! (And BTW...I concur on your results :nod: )

The three games you predicted are ALL gonna be great! (And BTW...I concur on your results :nod: )

All the games on TV in Conn. too. An MSU win coupled with a UM win puts the Spartans in the driver's seat, right?

All the games on TV in Conn. too. An MSU win coupled with a UM win puts the Spartans in the driver's seat, right?

Yes it does. But I think they're there even if PS wins tomorrow. :)

All the games on TV in Conn. too. An MSU win coupled with a UM win puts the Spartans in the driver's seat, right?

MSU plays Penn in the last game so if MSU keeps winning they have it, regardless of what anyone else does. I believe Penn, Wisconsin and MSU all still control their own destiny.

MSU plays Penn in the last game so if MSU keeps winning they have it, regardless of what anyone else does. I believe Penn, Wisconsin and MSU all still control their own destiny.

The only toss-up I see is MSU & UW winning out since they don't play each other this year.

Kind of a huge bummer for the Spartans. If MSU had won, they'd be sitting pretty. :doh:

Yeah. They played hard. But great teams find a way to overcome adversity and win tough games. Obviously, MSU is lacking in that regard. They aren't sitting pretty because they don't deserve to be. :ohwell:

Not sure what happened on that field goal thing. I was in the kitchen and then came back and saw they were trying a field goal on THIRD down. I'm not sure everyone was on the same page. I really don't think OSU played all that well. OSU has a way of finding a way to win even if it isn't pretty. I hate the Buckeyes.

Not sure what happened on that field goal thing.

As you know, the coaches botched that one. The details are here:
http://www.detnews.com/2005/msu/0510/16/C01-350321.htm

It killed State's momentum and woke up the Buckeyes. The writing was on the wall after that happened, but still I think a really good team overcomes that and wins the game somehow. They still had a whole half to play.

I'm not knocking them. They have a good team, a great quarterback, and they play hard. Hopefully they bounce back and get something better than the motor city bowl. I know the odds are slim, but there is some lousy bowl they play near me at Boise State University's blue field...maybe if I'm lucky...:pray:

It's kinda difficult to get excited about a Spartan football game after two heartbreaking losses/chokes...whatever. But I gotta stick with them.

Northwestern and MSU both have great offenses and crap defenses.

MSU averages 41.8 in scoring Northwestern 35.2

MSU gives up 25.3 Northwestern gives up 35.7


Game is in East Lansing


Final MSU 56 (notice no made field goals here) Northwestern 42

Great game. :puke:I was close on my prediction, wasn't I? :tinfoil3:

Great game. :puke:I was close on my prediction, wasn't I? :tinfoil3:

lmao! you crack me up man.

Great game. :puke:I was close on my prediction, wasn't I? :tinfoil3:

Yeah, about as close as I was on my Lions seven-game win streak prediction. :ohwell: :sick:

OK, it's been a terribly disappointing season for Spartan fans (especially in light of U of M's success :p...uggh...wtg guys ***chokes on words**). Some bad kicking and bad coaching in a couple of games and that was the beginning of the end for the Sparty's.

But...I feel an upset in the making for this Saturday. They are playing a top team and a bowl birth (in Boise, Idaho??????) is on the line.

I have no idea on the score but Sparty will prevail. U of M is gonna knock off OSU too. That means U of M wins the Big Ten title outright with a Penn State loss). You're welcome (in advance).

Yep, I know. I'm gonna look like :tinfoil3: on Saturday evening when I missed everything. But it's not like it's the first time!! :doh::laugh:

The Spartans gonna make their season today with a victory over Penn?

yes they are!! with everyone spoiling each other's season (and national championship hopes) in the Big 10, it's only fitting that MSU takes its turn doing the same. GO SPARTY!!

I was WRONG!

And it's about to get worse. MSU hoops down 21 to Hawaii with about 2 minutes to go. :doh:

Although I am a Buckeye thru and thru, I can't wait to see the how the Spartans do this year. They are my adopted second favorite team now that they hired ex-OSU coach Dantonio. I really think they are heading in the right direction. I think they will learn how to play good, sound, fundamental football under Dantonio. I am going to follow them more closely this year and will be rooting for them to knock off that other team in the state. I do think the grass is getting a little greener as we speak! :stirthepot:

Although I am a Buckeye thru and thru, I can't wait to see the how the Spartans do this year. They are my adopted second favorite team now that they hired ex-OSU coach Dantonio.

So... if the Wolverines would have hired Dantonio, then they would be your 2nd favorite team?

Although I am a Buckeye thru and thru, I can't wait to see the how the Spartans do this year. They are my adopted second favorite team now that they hired ex-OSU coach Dantonio. I really think they are heading in the right direction. I think they will learn how to play good, sound, fundamental football under Dantonio. I am going to follow them more closely this year and will be rooting for them to knock off that other team in the state. I do think the grass is getting a little greener as we speak! :stirthepot:

:suspiciou

So... if the Wolverines would have hired Dantonio, then they would be your 2nd favorite team?


That's funny you should ask that cause I almost also typed that I would NEVER be happy if he had gone to UM, but I was in a hurry, so I didn't. That's probably why I am getting excited for the Spartans because it is the antiUM. My favorite teams are OSU and anyone else playing UM. When the Big Ten schools are in bowl games, I root for all of them except for UM. :MusicBigGrin:

My favorite teams are OSU (MSU) and anyone else playing UM. When the Big Ten schools are in bowl games, I root for all of them except for UM. :MusicBigGrin:My sentiments, exactly. Can we kick UM out of the conference to make the Big 10 only ten again? :stirthepot:

Top Eight Reasons Why State Sucks

8. Only prerequisite for school admission is kindergarten
7. The quarteback drinks, smokes, and snorts his way into the starting lineup
6. Haven't seen a Big Ten title since Ronald Reagan was president
5. Birds fly upside down over E. Lansing because it ain't worth a crap
4. Football players have a drug problem, they get drug up and down the field
3. Between state and Cheerios, only one belongs in a bowl
2. OJ hid out there since it was the last place you would expect to find a Heisman Trophy winner
1. One second left on the clock my butt

My sentiments, exactly. Can we kick UM out of the conference to make the Big 10 only ten again? :stirthepot:

If anybody should leave, it should be Northwestern.

If anybody should leave, it should be Northwestern.


I agree with ggazoo. Northwestern should be the one to go. Even though I greatly dislike UM (don't hate the people though-some people take this stuff way too seriously), I love playing them and am glad we have such a great rivalry. Especially now since they are the ones with Cooper. :pound: :pound:

I shouldn't post this because I know the U of M guys will sabotage the vote, but here goes.

Go Sparty!

Most Dominant College Mascot on Earth: Spartans vs. Cowboys - CBS SportsLine.com (http://www.sportsline.com/spin/story/10177232)

Come on.........really now, gotta vote for the underdog.

Go POKES !!!!!!!!!!!!!

At the half scores


MSU 45 UAB 3


Appalachaian St. 28 U of M 17


Life is good.


(I fully expect the wolverines to come back, but it's funny anyhow).:pound::pound::pound::stirthepot:


Of course, the guys I work with are BSU nuts, but there is a guy who is a U of M freak who flew in for the game. This Tuesday could be fun!

At the half scores


MSU 45 UAB 3


Appalachaian St. 28 U of M 17


Life is good.


(I fully expect the wolverines to come back, but it's funny anyhow).:pound::pound::pound::stirthepot:


Of course, the guys I work with are BSU nuts, but there is a guy who is a U of M freak who flew in for the game. This Tuesday could be fun!

As I write, UM is down 31-26 and just gave up the ball. I'm not sure what's more amazing: The fact that UM has given up 31 points to a team in Division I AA or that UM's AD hasn't realized what a poor coach Lloyd Carr is. Oh sure, Lloyd has his supporters. People will talk about his great overall winning percentage and how UM goes to a bowl game every season (and loses). Hopefully, this embarrassing game (win or lose) will be enough to sound the alarm in the AD office at UM. Lloyd stinks. His teams consistently underachieve. It's sad to think how much UM could have accomplished over the years with a different coach.

28-17 5 minutes to go...Sparties at the BG 10 and pounding the ball...will they cover the spread? :)

I left to go watch my kids soccer game at the half with the score tied. I held my breath while checking the score.

Whew. Good to see they won. Looks like they blew a lot of opportunities. Bowling Green is a decent team but a team we should beat.

Glad we didn't blow it. I wasn't looking forward to hearing the Blue fans laugh at us after last week.

Plus at work college football is a big thing (BSU is all they have), so I gotta defend the Green's honor.

Prediction for the main course:

Michigan State 34
Hawaii 10


Wishful thinking for dessert:

Notre Dame 20
U of Michigan 19
(Not a Notre Dame fan but I'll take anyone over the blue team):p


MSU tee shirt...check
MSU sweatshirt...check
Spartan cap...check

I'm really curious. Almost everyone on here loves the Pistons, but are we divided evenly across the MSU and U of M lines? Who likes which school (if either).

Michigan fan. But I don't activily root against State. Most Michigan fans don't so thats where we differ.

Michigan fan. But I don't activily root against State. Most Michigan fans don't so thats where we differ.


Max...I do believe I wrote that post you just responded to LAST year. You are as slow at responding as Carr is.:stirthepot:

My oh my the Meechigan people are looking to lash out at anyone these days, I see. :pound::pound::pound:

At least they are getting SLAUGHTERED by a GOOD team THIS week. :pound:

Max...I do believe I wrote that post you just responded to LAST year. You are as slow at responding as Carr is.:stirthepot:

My oh my the Meechigan people are looking to lash out at anyone these days, I see. :pound::pound::pound:

At least they are getting SLAUGHTERED by a GOOD team THIS week. :pound:


I really like to Root for MSU. Loved their team in 1984 when they won the Big Ten. Here's hoping they have a good season for their new coach.

I really like to Root for MSU. Loved their team in 1984 when they won the Big Ten. Here's hoping they have a good season for their new coach.State didn't win in 84. Maybe you're thinking of 87 & the 88 Rose Bowl win over USC. 1990 Big Ten co-champs...I think Wisconsin went to the Rose Bowl that year (?). Pretty much nothing since then.

State is WAY overdue for a good season, but I'm not convinced this is going to be one.

Hondo Carpenter asked Phil Steele about State's record this year. .500 maybe. Hondo agreed. Still, it ought to be fun.

Hondo Carpenter asked Phil Steele about State's record this year. .500 maybe. Hondo agreed. Still, it ought to be fun.

Yep. I think maybe 6-6 which I believe gets us in a minor bowl. I'll take it. LOL. State isn't that good anyhow, most likely, and they have the toughest schedule in the big ten.

I'll take .500. Not much, but hopefully going in the right direction. I can easily see 5-7 and 7-5 would be a bonus.

State didn't win in 84. Maybe you're thinking of 87 & the 88 Rose Bowl win over USC. 1990 Big Ten co-champs...I think Wisconsin went to the Rose Bowl that year (?). Pretty much nothing since then.

State is WAY overdue for a good season, but I'm not convinced this is going to be one.


Wrong on the year (1984).................must have been Lorenzo's first season then. I lived in Lansing in 84' for 8 months while football season was happenin. It was a good year for him...........

It's nice to see Sparty win, but nothing to feel good about here. They had penalty after penalty and almost gave the game away several times.

Notre Dame is crap. So is U of M.

But I can see MSU losing to both with this stupid play. They are 3-0. It's hard to imagine them not going 6-6 with this start.

I think IF they can beat Notre Dame they can do it and get in the Tidy bowl or something. Better than nothing which is what we usually get.

It's nice to see Sparty win, but nothing to feel good about here. They had penalty after penalty and almost gave the game away several times.

Notre Dame is crap. So is U of M.

But I can see MSU losing to both with this stupid play. They are 3-0. It's hard to imagine them not going 6-6 with this start.

I think IF they can beat Notre Dame they can do it and get in the Tidy bowl or something. Better than nothing which is what we usually get.

I went to the Michigan State football game today and they did almost give the game away. They shot thereselves in the foot a ton and could of put a lot more points on the scoreboard. Some playcalling was questionable in certain situations and special teams really helped out the Spartans. It was nice that they got the win though.

Max...I do believe I wrote that post you just responded to LAST year. You are as slow at responding as Carr is.:stirthepot:

My oh my the Meechigan people are looking to lash out at anyone these days, I see. :pound::pound::pound:

At least they are getting SLAUGHTERED by a GOOD team THIS week. :pound:

Really?

Somethings never change.

Michigan State is rolling over Notre Dame 31-14 while Michigan just knocked off Penn State. Michigan State will go to 4-0 while Michigan will go to 2-2 and 1-0 in the Big Ten.

Michigan State is rolling over Notre Dame 31-14 while Michigan just knocked off Penn State. Michigan State will go to 4-0 while Michigan will go to 2-2 and 1-0 in the Big Ten.


Nice that both games were televised out here in Montana. Poor JoPa losing 9 straight to Lloyd Carr. Wanna see if MSU can CONTINUE their winning ways. Interesting to see if they're ranked this week.

This one scared me because I did not want to be the team that lost to the team that lost to Appalachian State.

But Good game by the Sparties and also a very good game for the team that lost to Appalachian State. :caked:

This one scared me because I did not want to be the team that lost to the team that lost to Appalachian State.

But Good game by the Sparties and also a very good game for the team that lost to Appalachian State. :caked:

Apple State just lost to Wofford...........now guess where they are....
I think MSU should schedule Wofford........just to see what happens.:stirthepot:

Apple State just lost to Wofford...........now guess where they are....
I think MSU should schedule Wofford........just to see what happens.:stirthepot:


I meant to say that I didn't want to be the team that lost to the team that lost to the team that lost to Appalachian State.

But anyhow, I suppose Sparty will lose to Wisconsin next week.
Unlike U of M, MSU actually has some road games on our schedule.

At any rate, I think Sparty CAN beat Wisconsin, but more than likely we will NOT and will see a 10-14 point loss. :(

Looks like a bowl game of some sort on the horizon. :)

I meant to say that I didn't want to be the team that lost to the team that lost to the team that lost to Appalachian State.

But anyhow, I suppose Sparty will lose to Wisconsin next week.
Unlike U of M, MSU actually has some road games on our schedule.

At any rate, I think Sparty CAN beat Wisconsin, but more than likely we will NOT and will see a 10-14 point loss. :(

Looks like a bowl game of some sort on the horizon. :)


Several years ago, OSU had 8 home games and just 4 road games in a season. I thought it was absurd. Seeing that UM got the same cush schedule has changed my mindhas brought back that absurd feeling. If Michigan can beat Penn State, than MSU can beat Wisconsin........just do it....

MSU is a pathetic 3-13 over the last two years of conference play. Wisconsin is on an 8 game Big 10 win streak and has the longest win streak in the nation at 13. Today's game is an opportunity for MSU to gain some credibility.

WOW cable has signed a deal with Big Ten Network and broadcasts start today with the UM-Northwestern game.

WOW! Internet, Cable & Phone - Illinois | Indiana | Michigan | Ohio (http://www1.wowway.com/cable/cable.aspx?ConIdent=2006&RCView=Main&sc_cid=big10)

I expect Comcast to follow suit in the next few weeks.

Spartans are for real and UM ain't.

Spartans are for real and UM ain't.

A loss always feels bad, but that being said, there is hope for Sparty.

Spartans are for real and UM ain't.

MSU lost. Michigan won.

MSU lost. Michigan won.Consider the respective competition: #9 in the nation vs. #9- in the Big 10

I always hate to get optomistic about Spartan football, but they put up a good battle. Costly penalties & turnovers are still a lynchpin.

MSU lost. Michigan won.

Hard to say this for sure, but I think UM would have gotten blown out in Madison.

Hard to say this for sure, but I think UM would have gotten blown out in Madison.


The grapes seem sour in this whine...............

You're having a better year than Michigan. Enjoy your team and the future success that your new coach can bring. Don't worry so much about the fact that Michigan is having a bad season. They really dodged a bullet yeaterday against Northwestern. Probably shoulda lost.
The Wildcats giftwrapped 4 turnovers for us which provided 21 points.
Thank-you Northwestern..........:):):):):)

The grapes seem sour in this whine...............

You're having a better year than Michigan. Enjoy your team and the future success that your new coach can bring. Don't worry so much about the fact that Michigan is having a bad season. They really dodged a bullet yeaterday against Northwestern. Probably shoulda lost.
The Wildcats giftwrapped 4 turnovers for us which provided 21 points.
Thank-you Northwestern..........:):):):):)

Not a whine, Nemo. Just calling it like it is. I didn't attend either MSU or UM. UM accepted me, but I went to Mizzou instead. MSU is a cow school, I never would have gone there anyway.

MSU has 16 AP votes and UM has 15. In the USA Today poll, the gap is even wider. If UM AD Bill Martin isn't alarmed by this sudden shift of power, someone needs to spike his Metamucil.

MSU is a cow school...

Apparently you haven't looked at the women on the U of M campus...:pound:

Apparently you haven't looked at the women on the U of M campus...:pound:

Well, I haven't looked lately. But I agree. When I was in college, MSU blew UM away in that department. But I like brainy women, so UM would have been a better choice for me. :)

Not a whine, Nemo. Just calling it like it is. I didn't attend either MSU or UM. UM accepted me, but I went to Mizzou instead. MSU is a cow school, I never would have gone there anyway.

MSU has 16 AP votes and UM has 15. In the USA Today poll, the gap is even wider. If UM AD Bill Martin isn't alarmed by this sudden shift of power, someone needs to spike his Metamucil.


Thanks for the info on your college. I believe MSU is better this year. Michigan does need to look at a new coach. Figuring on MSU going 9-3 with Michigan going 8-4..............I didn't attend either school also. Went to EMU undergrad and Oakland University for my Masters. Did have UM season tickets for many years, but still would like to see MSU do well.

Not a whine, Nemo. Just calling it like it is. I didn't attend either MSU or UM. UM accepted me, but I went to Mizzou instead. MSU is a cow school, I never would have gone there anyway. If your intent was to say MSU was founded as an agricultural college, okay...otherwise, what do you mean by that statement?

Spartans lose in Wiscy and it wasn’t pretty! (http://spartannation.com/?p=3101)

By Hondo S. Carpenter Sr.
September 29, 2007
Madison, WI
Camp Randall-Stadium
The Spartans came into Madison on a mission. They wanted to move their record to 5-0 and upset the team many thought would win the Big Ten. For the record I predicted OSU. The day didn’t start well when Detroit Country Day LB Kenny Demens picked UM over MSU to play football and it ended on a worse note.
The Spartans came out and let the Badgers convert on two 3rd and 7 plays on their first drive that allowed them to take the lead. The Spartans had the answer back however and contrary to many predictions (mine included) the first half evolved into an offensive assault. The Spartans had 325 yards of offense in the first half compared to the Badgers 381.
Freshman Chris L. Rucker got ejected from the game for an altercation with the Badgers Marcus Randle El. Although Rucker clearly didn’t start the altercation, when he returned a Randle El punch, both began to attack the others head similar to a heavyweight fight. T.J. Williams replaced him and on his second play picked off Badger QB Tyler Donovan. The Spartans couldn’t convert however after a Brian Hoyer fumble when he dropped back to pass and failed to protect the ball and held it too low allowing Wisconsin to knock it out of his hands and recover with 3:20 to go in the second quarter and the ball at the MSU 24.
The Badgers were able to get a field goal after an impressive hold by the Spartans and things got real interesting. The Spartans began their final drive of the half at their own 18 and moved the ball nicely. The coaching staff however made it’s second big mistake in two weeks (in my opinion) when facing a 3rd and 10 with 1:02 in the half and the ball at the MSU 45 they took a timeout? I asked Dantonio about it after the game, but he couldn’t remember why they did it. They failed to get the first down and the extra time allowed the Badgers to move down the field for another field goal and the 27-21 halftime lead. Those were three critical points that came back to haunt the Spartans when this was all said and done at the end of the game.
Jehuu Caulcrick had two TD scores in the first half and 51 yards of rushing on 9 carries. Javon Ringer had 72 yards on 7 carries both clearly able to have success against the once feared Badger D. The Spartans had one turnover in the first half and one penalty. On the play that Rucker was ejected from, there was a personal foul called on him, but an offsetting one on the Badgers negated it.
The Spartans came out in the second half and although they were obviously tired, they kept fighting. They got to within three on an amazing TD catch by Mark Dell when he somehow was able to contort his body shift and catch the ball and get his feet down. Then with 12:14 left in the 4th quarter they tied the Badgers at 34 with a Swenson 35-yard FG after a Travis Key interception. Finally MSU had the momentum!
The momentum however was not to last. The Spartans had the Badgers facing a 3rd and 14 at their own 27 and when Donovan’s pass fell incomplete, Kellen Davis got an irresponsible personal foul for hitting the QB clearly after he had thrown it and KD took two steps. The penalty gave the Badgers the ball at their own 42 and a first down. More importantly it gave them the momentum. MSU was unable to stop the Badgers from that point on and clearly the Spartans hopes faded. Otis Wiley made a poor choice and got a personal foul, without question hitting a Wisconsin offensive player when the play was done. This drive was clearly reminiscent of the JLS years as the Spartans had stopped the Badgers but kept them alive and driving with poor personal fouls and defensive holding penalties. The Badgers eventually moved all the way for the FG moving Wisconsin to a 37-34 lead.
MSU moved the ball to the Wisconsin 36 and were facing a 3rd and 7. Strangely they ran the ball up the middle with Ringer that netted them only one yard and Swenson missed a 53- yard field goal attempt giving the Badgers essentially the ball and the win. Dantonio was unsure if Hoyer had checked out a screen pass, but Hoyer confirmed it was a running play all the way.
The frustrating thing is not that MSU lost today. This team has overachieved this season and has a lot of football ahead. What hurts is that they cost themselves a ball game. We all know that this program was not going to be fixed in a season, but the timeout near the end of the first half, personal fouls and questionable play calls (3rd and 7 and running Ringer up the middle) cost the Spartans today.
Now certainly Dantonio has the Spartans going in the right direction, but chances to beat a top ten team at their house don’t come often and leaving Camp Randall tonight you clearly leave without the assurance that you got beat, but rather in the words of Jonal Saint-Dic after the game, “We gave them one.”
Simply put, the defense got shredded today though. P.J. Hill ran all over them for 162 yards in the game and WR Travis Beckum had 10 catches for 132 yards. The Spartans let QB Tyler Donovan look like another Wisconsin QB named Favre by completing 71% of his passes (17 of 24) for 247 yards and two TD scores.
The poor timeout let Wisconsin get three and the Spartans lost by three. On the Wisconsin go ahead drive the Spartans had three penalties (two personal fouls and one defensive holding) that let the Badgers keep driving and it cost the Spartan Nation a chance to win. Who knows if they would have, but the chance was lost!
This is not in any way a doom and gloom scenario. It was a loss. It also was a real test and measuring stick and what the Spartans learned is that they can play with anyone, and they can beat themselves.
After the post game prayer at the 50-yard line, Captain Travis Key called all of the team back to remind them that this was not last year. He told them that they won’t collapse. I believe him, and if you had been in the post game locker room you would have also. The Spartan Nation is disappointed, but the Spartan Nation learned a lot. Unlike last year, they will learn from it and they will go bowling at the end of the year. I can live for that in year one of rebuilding. I couldn’t in year five, but it isn’t year five. One thing is certain. This team never quit and this team played hard to the end.
There was over 1000 yards of combined offensive yardage in the game, and that was a shocker to everyone.
I am disappointed in the personal fouls. I am disappointed in the poor timeout and running Ringer up the middle on a 3rd and 7. I am also very excited about the direction of this program and the fight of these Spartans.
This one hurt no doubt. This one also showed us a lot of what we are doing right. Disappointment is the word to describe this, but with Northwestern coming in Saturday, I think that those Cats are walking into a hungry group of Spartans and MSU will rebound.
I want to give props to the Badger fans. I have been around football my entire life. I go to NFL and college games all the time and I saw something I had never seen. At the end of the game as the Spartans walked off, clearly disappointed, they gave them a standing ovation. It was the classiest move I have ever seen and although I hate to lose, I certainly can at least stomach it with classy fans like that. Maybe they can teach Bo Ryan about what that means. My hats off to the Badger faithful for that!

This next game will be the telling game for the MSU season in my mind. As a UM fan I don't know how many times we have watched MSU start out hot, lose one close game..... and then forget they were a good team. They always seem to just give up when they lose one game. Not that I am a state fan, but would like to see them win most there games (unless they are playing UM).

Well, I haven't looked lately. But I agree. When I was in college, MSU blew UM away in that department. But I like brainy women, so UM would have been a better choice for me. :)

I went to law school at MSU so I got to see brains AND beauty! :love:

If your intent was to say MSU was founded as an agricultural college, okay...otherwise, what do you mean by that statement?

That the land used for MSU was originally a cow pasture. :)

Geez, you MSU people are touchy.

I went to law school at MSU so I got to see brains AND beauty! :love:

MSU has a law school? Wow, that's like McDonald's adding creme brule to the menu. It just doesn't seem to fit. :pound:

Geez, you MSU people are touchy.


I'll drink to that.........:cheers: :beer:

MSU has a law school? Wow, that's like McDonald's adding creme brule to the menu. It just doesn't seem to fit. :pound:



:):pound::):pound::):pound::)

Big 10 is hard to figure out so I won't even try. Wisconsin loses to Illinois; Northwestern beats Michigan State in East Lansing and UM schedules a weak MAC team in the middle of the season and keeps them in the game for an entire half before waking up. Lots of parity now. This conference is easy pickins' for Sweater Vest's Buckeyes. Or so it appears. Maybe Illinois will continue to surprise.

Big 10 is hard to figure out so I won't even try. Wisconsin loses to Illinois; Northwestern beats Michigan State in East Lansing and UM schedules a weak MAC team in the middle of the season and keeps them in the game for an entire half before waking up. Lots of parity now. This conference is easy pickins' for Sweater Vest's Buckeyes. Or so it appears. Maybe Illinois will continue to surprise.

It's not hard to figure really. Ohio State is pretty good. The rest of us STINK!

Sparty should have beat this team. No excuses. Just same old crap! Disappointing. Very.

I was thinking we could beat Michigan this year since it was at home and they are playing so poorly. But we've outdone them yet again. Holy cripe. Can't even stop Northwestern?? What a joke.

Tonight will tell where the Big Ten stands. OSU needs a strong game against Purdue to verify that they can play on the national stage. Purdue is undefeated, and probably just another pretender like UM and MSU..............

looks like MSU defense is suspect...I mean didn't they allow the Irish to score two TD's:) and then give up 37 points to the Badgers and then 48 in Ot today...

I didn't like their OT approach...four and out on four long passes....


Michigan played in the first half as if were a scrimmage game with EMU boys down the road. Without Hart, they could have lost this game to EMU who hopefully got a few pointers to help them compete a little better in the MAC

I didn't like their OT approach...four and out on four long passes....Exactly my thots. Down by 7 in OT, I could tolerate the 1st play shot at the endzone, but the 2nd set them up for failure IMO. Ringer had 195 yards on 13 carries and 3 TD's...and he didn't get a chance to run for even a 1st down in OT.

Just plain stupid play calling by Dantonio. My Sparty frustration continues :yellowprison:

Just like we say same old Lions, we can say same old Spartans.

Just like we say same old Lions, we can say same old Spartans.


I'll drink to that........must be the dry weather out here. :beer: :cheers: :football:

I just read in the paper (internet) that the Spartans have lost 12 of their last 13 Big Ten games. I had no idea..........

I just read in the paper (internet) that the Spartans have lost 12 of their last 13 Big Ten games. I had no idea..........Thanks for reminding me...and that lone win was against Northwestern last year...AND NW got their revenge last Sat.

zoo...it's no wonder that we State fans are touchy...can you blame us? :yellowprison:

Thanks for reminding me...and that lone win was against Northwestern last year...AND NW got their revenge last Sat.

zoo...it's no wonder that we State fans are touchy...can you blame us? :yellowprison:

I probably shouldn't comment not having gone to either school. I actually apologize to you for that comment, det. Don't want any bad blood with a fellow poster from my old neck of the woods who I truly respect.

One thing about State fans, though, is they got UM dead to rights during hoops season. Gotta look on the bright side, bud. :) Football ain't everything.

I probably shouldn't comment not having gone to either school. I actually apologize to you for that comment, det. Don't want any bad blood with a fellow poster from my old neck of the woods who I truly respect.

One thing about State fans, though, is they got UM dead to rights during hoops season. Gotta look on the bright side, bud. :) Football ain't everything.And I apologize if my post came across as sharply pointed. Seemingly endless frustration occasionally has it's bounds...my bad. The respect is mutual. :)

UM's bball program will one day resurrect from the dead. I'm just hoping State's football program beats them to it. ;)

Just 25 minutes away from the Spartans game. Get ready for another loss folks! :gaah:

No. No.
I have faith...:fingerscr
I won't give up before the opening kickoff:crossed:



IF they lose, they won't even get a crappy bow because I don't know who else they can beatl.

A win tonight puts them at 5-2 and one win away from some obscure bowl.
Go Sparty:yellowprison:

52 points enough this time? I think so.

btw, NU pulled out a 2ot win with 49 points. whew!

Looks like Ohio State is going to be the No. 1 team in the country with both LSU and Cal losing.

I hate Ohio State. :gun1: Columbus.

Looks like Ohio State is going to be the No. 1 team in the country with both LSU and Cal losing.

I hate Ohio State. :gun1: Columbus.

The question is how long can the Buckeyes hold on to number 1 with the way this years college season has gone? The Spartans will have the first crack at knocking them off the perch next week in Columbus.

If they can''t do it, then it will up to Penn State, Wisconsin or the Illini in that order to try it ..and if they all fail then it will Michigan's chance to do something that they couldn't do last year ...knock off number 1 Ohio State .....and make their season.

Scouting report and prediction for MSU vs. OSU! (http://spartannation.com/?p=3200)

By Hondo S. Carpenter Sr.
Scouting report and prediction for MSU vs. OSU
Let’s me just say this right from the start; if this match-up were played 10 times, OSU would win seven. With that said, as a member of the Spartan Nation I choose to focus on the three wins (I am a glass half-full type of guy when it comes to my Spartans) and here is how Michigan State pulls the upset on Saturday.
Here are the quick FACTS:

MSU has not faced a defense as good as the one they will face on Saturday.
OSU has not faced a balanced offense and as good as our beloved Spartans.
OSU has not faced a team that can get up the field and rush the passer like MSU.
MSU has not faced a football team that is as sound as OSU.
OSU has the best special teams in college football. When you watch the Buckeyes (and I have watched all of their games at least once, most twice or three times) they win by doing all the little things. They have done nothing in those games offensively that make you say WOW! I mean no disrespect; I only state the facts.
The Spartans on defense:
The Spartans will have to force the Buckeyes to pass the ball. OSU has not had to play in a close game in the fourth quarter this season. The only way the Spartans beat the Bucks is to contain their rushing game and put them in spots that they have to throw the ball. If MSU can do that, things will get really interesting. OSU has a good (not great) O line that has not been pressured. MSU has pass rushers that make things happen. I am not convinced (and if you watch their games neither is Tressel) that they can win with the ball in the air. MSU may give up some big plays by putting eight in the box to stop the run. It is abundantly clear that the more the Buckeyes throw the football, the better MSU’s chances become to pull the upset. Ohio State would really like to pound the football and set up play action on third and short / medium. OSU has good receivers, but a QB that is young (experience wise) and makes bad throws and mistakes that others haven’t capitalized upon.
MSU will not stop their running game. The Spartans can only hope to contain OSU’s ground attack and force them to pass on some third and longs. If that happens (and I think it will) then the Spartan’s secondary must rise to the occasion. I use the magic number five again. A combination of five sacks/turnovers will make the Spartans competitive with a chance to win this ball game.
The Spartans on offense:
Our opponent, like most weekends, knows the Spartans can score enough points to win this game. That is a germane thought… remember the Buckeyes don’t have a great offense. I don’t think Michigan State will need to score 40 or 50 to hand OSU a loss. Each week, the Buckeyes have had to game plan for specific offenses. The Buckeyes have not faced a balanced offense with as many multiple packages as the Spartans present and the talent to execute them. I think this is a fact being overlooked by many in the Spartan Nation. For all of the criticism that has been hurled Hoyer’s direction (unfairly so, I might add), he doesn’t turn the ball over and make the crucial mistake that will cost his team the game. MSU can run out of the Power I. They can go four and five receivers wide. They are perhaps one of the most versatile offenses in the nation and that creates huge problems for the Buckeyes. When you watch their games, they move personnel each week based on the scheme of the team they are playing. This isn’t a big secret. The question is, what will OSU do to counter the Spartan’s offense? Does MSU start five wide? Do they go Power I, or Pro Set? Do they use Davis more if the Bucks don’t double-team him as others have? This offense has a pick your poison ability that the talented Buckeyes haven’t faced all year. MSU’s offense may be the best in the conference by season’s end.
I am not disrespecting Ohio State. I am simply saying that they haven’t faced this kind of offensive versatility. The Buckeyes are coached exceptionally well. If MSU catches them out of formation they will have a chance to capitalize with points. It is up to MSU to execute and make the plays.
The game plan is simple… take what OSU gives you. If they load the box… throw the ball. If they back off then run it down their throat. They are talented, but MSU ain’t the ugliest chick at the dance. The Spartans are versatile. OSU has played good running teams and good passing teams, but never a team that has both working so well together.
It is critical when you play a team with a solid defense like the Buckeyes. I am IN NO WAY saying MSU has the talent of Florida, but let’s look back at last year’s NC game. The Gators where the first team the Buckeyes faced that were as versatile as the Buckeyes themselves. They could run. They’d kill you with the short passing game. They’d beat you long with play action and unravel you with a running quarterback. It kept OSU’s defense on their heals. I know for a fact that MSU’s coaches studied the Florida game film extensively this week. Hoyer is not as mobile as Troy Smith I give you that, but he isn’t as slow as me (insert any fat joke) and will not make the mistakes that Smith sometimes did.
Here is a critical point. MSU doesn’t have to have the best players (look at OU vs. Boise State) they have to have the best game plan and articulate it.
The Spartans on special teams:
OSU is the best in the nation nearly every season when it comes to special teams. They are sound everywhere. I really like Terry Love, but his play as a punt returner has been less than stellar. He can afford no mistakes and he has to advance the ball. Swenson has endured a sophomore slump, but is a very good kicker that is due for a big game. This will be Brett’s time to deliver in a very hostile environment.
PREDICTION:
There are a lot of if’s and even more intangibles that go into this game. Spartan fans want a glimpse of Dantonio’s progress with his first-year Spartans. We need not look any further than Columbus this weekend win or lose. OSU is the prototype. It is exactly what MD is working to build.
This may sound silly, but the offense has proven they can score and be versatile. The defense has to take a huge step this week. I will focus on the three games of ten that MSU would win. If MSU has no stupid penalties that keep the Buckeye’s offense on the field and Hoyer continues to play turnover free, the Spartans win this one 28-27! It can happen. It could happen, and I expect it will!
Remember people, they hate UM as much as we do! You have to respect them for that.



Thought you guys would like this :)

Good reading OZark. OSU or any team in the top 5 are primed for an upset this season....down goes #2 South Florida as I type here. Has OSU really beaten anybody this season? The LA Times had the Buckeyes ranked 3rd behind South Florida and the number 1 spot was vacant....:sssh:

Go Spartans

This is very do-able on Saturday depending on which Sparties show up...

Waxing nostalgic:

1998 - Michigan State 28, Ohio State 24

The Spartans shocked the college football world with a dramatic 28-24 victory over No. 1 Ohio State on Nov. 7, 1998, in Columbus. MSU scored 19 unanswered points in the second half in garnering its first win over a top-ranked team since 1990.

At first, it appeared the Buckeyes would coast to another victory. They jumped out to a 17-3 lead after the first quarter, but the Spartans battled back to make it 17-9 going into the half. OSU built its margin to 15 points after Damon Moore returned an interception 73 yards for a touchdown. But that's all the top-ranked Buckeyes would get.

MSU caught a break when Craig Jarrett's (http://msuspartans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jarrett_craig00.html) 34-yard, line-drive punt hit a Buckeye, and the Spartans recovered the free ball near midfield. Five plays later, MSU quarterback Bill Burke (http://msuspartans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/burke_bill00.html) threw a 23-yard TD pass to Lavaile Richardson (http://msuspartans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/richardson_lavaile00.html) as the Spartans pulled to within nine at 24-15 with 6:02 remaining in the third quarter. OSU fumbled on its next possession, leading to a Paul Edinger (http://msuspartans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/edinger_paul00.html) 49-yard field goal to make it 24-18.

The Spartans then put together a 92-yard drive, capped by a 3-yard run by Sedrick Irvin, to take their first lead at 25-24 early in the fourth quarter. MSU took advantage of another Buckeye fumble with a 42-yard field goal by Edinger, giving MSU a 28-24 lead. The Spartan defense held the Buckeyes the rest of the way. Although the Buckeyes rallied and had first down on the MSU 15 late in the game, the defense came through with three stops before Renaldo Hill (http://msuspartans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hill_renaldo00.html) intercepted Joe Germaine's fourth-down pass on the goal line to seal the victory.

Great Wins Over Ohio State :: A look at some of the classic Spartan victories over the Buckeyes. (http://msuspartans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/101206aad.html)

That's the one thing that is truly amazing about MSU. They can really win on ANY weekend. It just depends on which MSU team shows up. The sad thing about that victory over #1 OSU almost ten years ago is that they didn't keep up the momentum. Good luck this weekend with Ohio State..........

Good reading OZark.

Go Spartans

Yep. fun article. But IMO it belongs in the fantasy section of the forum. The article gives MSU a 3 in 10 chance of winning. IMO it is 1 in 10.

I think OSU is pretty good and MSU will be lucky to win one more game this season and make a bowl game. Sadly, it won't come against the Buckeyes. I'd love to be wrong here, but I doubt I will.

OSU 34
MSU 14

Yee of little faith Tater. Barring a lot of turnovers, I think the game will be decided by 7 points or less.

Yee of little faith Tater. Barring a lot of turnovers, I think the game will be decided by 7 points or less.

Ye of little sense of recent history, Detteam.

The Spartans lost a close one to Wisconsin on the road 3 weeks ago. They lost in overtime to Northwestern at home two weeks ago.

So how can we honestly expect these Spartans to beat the Bucks. We ain't going to blow them out and if it's close, we will choke. Yes, anybody can beat anybody on any given day, but it won't be today.

If we still had Stanton, I'd say we really had that 3 in 10 chance. With this team...it's a longshot.

But yeah...I'll be checking the score now and then along the way...as much as my stomach can handle.

Yee of little faith Tater. Barring a lot of turnovers, I think the game will be decided by 7 points or less.

Rooting for the Spartans and believing they can actually beat the #1 team in the nation with a mediocre team are worlds apart. I'll cheer for them, but I'm not putting any money on them. There is a reason that they are 18-point underdogs.

Rooting for the Spartans and believing they can actually beat the #1 team in the nation with a mediocre team are worlds apart. I'll cheer for them, but I'm not putting any money on them. There is a reason that they are 18-point underdogs.

Given that spread, you might consider putting some money on them to cover.

State's D looks very suspect after OSU's first drive & TD. OSU's O-line looks pretty solid.

WTF? Hoyer just threw it to OSU...there wasn't a Spartan even close.

Given that spread, you might consider putting some money on them to cover.


If did take the bet, MSU would be up 18-17 at halftime.

If did take the bet, MSU would be up 18-17 at halftime.

Oops. I meant that I didn't think OSU will win by more than 18. Gambling and lines confuse me.

OSU's defense has been pretty good in the first half. Hoping for a more respectable second half for the Spartans.

Oops. I meant that I didn't think OSU will win by more than 18. Gambling and lines confuse me.

OSU's defense has been pretty good in the first half. Hoping for a more respectable second half for the Spartans.

I knew what you meant. My point was that I think OSU will outscore MSU by more than 1 in the second half. I think taking Ohio State and giving 18 points would have been the safe bet. Let's hope not...

WOW!!! A pick & a fumble return for TD's in less than 1 minute.

WOW!!! A pick & a fumble return for TD's in less than 1 minute.

If only Ohio State would keep their offense on the field, then MSU could keep racking up more points.

Just another Spartan loss. I just got back a little while ago and saw the score. The game summary made it sound like they could have tied it up, but I'm thinking it also could have been a blowout.

I'm not encouraged by this loss at all, but it looks like at least they didn't quit. Maybe we'll have a decent shot at winning one or two of the last four. Me and my pal (who also lives in Boise and graduated from MSU with me) are seriously considering heading to a bowl game wherever that may be...if they should get in.

Even though the Spartan offense couldn't do anything, you have to give MSU credit for going into Columbus and losing by only one score.

Even though the Spartan offense couldn't do anything, you have to give MSU credit for going into Columbus and losing by only one score.

Yeah, I won't get any crap at work for it, at least.

The Sparties just couldn't move the ball. Inside & outside, the run was all but shutdown. It seemed like OSU had 12 or 13 guys playing D most of the time...LB Laurinaitis was everywhere.

Still...only a 7 point differential thanks to the Spartan D, despite a boat-load of missed tackles.

At least MSU is losing respectably this year lol. Seriously...they look far better under Dantonio than under John L.

i think those were courtesy touchdowns so tressel wouldn't embarass d'antonio lol

i think those were courtesy touchdowns so tressel wouldn't embarass d'antonio lol

:pound::):pound::):pound::) S vs M soon enough..go blue.....

That was some comeback. I have never seen OSU look so helpless on offense. It was lucky for them that they have the number one defense
in the country.

That was worrisome that that third fumble in a row could very well have gone for another touchdown.

I wonder how much it helped that the Spartan coach was the defensive coach at OSU. It was like they knew exactly what was going to happen.
And they seemed to know just how to stop it.

Good game.

i should've stopped watching the game sooner. i figured it was over so i went out with some friends to dinner, and within the 3 minutes it took me to drive to my friend's house, they came out and said MSU had just scored 2 touchdowns and it was 24-14. i laughed, but then turned on the radio and was like, woah!

Pretty big game today for Sparty. Please win MSU.

It's a game they CAN win, but hard to say if they WILL win.

They can prove that their program is headed in the right direction with a victory. Bowl eligibility would be nice.

My guess, for what it's worth is that it will be a close game.

Problem is they don't do well in close games.

Ok, nevertheless...

MSU 21

Iowa 17

Pretty big game today for Sparty. Please win MSU.

It's a game they CAN win, but hard to say if they WILL win.

They can prove that their program is headed in the right direction with a victory. Bowl eligibility would be nice.

My guess, for what it's worth is that it will be a close game.

Problem is they don't do well in close games.

Ok, nevertheless...

MSU 21

Iowa 17
Too close for comfort is right as...20-20 at the end of regulation and of course a loss in OT. 34-27. What is with the Sparts?? win first four games and then lose 4 of the last five??

Too close for comfort is right as...20-20 at the end of regulation and of course a loss in OT. 34-27. What is with the Sparts?? win first four games and then lose 4 of the last five??

Clowns. I dunno if it's worse rooting for them or the Lions.

Too close for comfort is right as...20-20 at the end of regulation and of course a loss in OT. 34-27. What is with the Sparts?? win first four games and then lose 4 of the last five??There must have been a reason in the back of my head to not watch any of this game. I only listened to the radio for a few minutes before the half when the Sparties were up 17-3.

It SUCKS to be a Spartan fan :yellowprison:

I watched the game and the Spartans were robbed so close. It's a crime shame after such a good start, to be 5-4. It's gotta be tough being a Spartan fan at this time of the season.

Michigan State Plays Michigan tomorrow and nobody's talking any trash on this thread. C'mon, Michigan lost to Apple State for gosh sakes. Nothing for the last six days......What's up with that. Actually, I'm afraid that UM will lose and ruin their season all over again. Things must be just as sad in the MSU camp............

C'mon, Michigan lost to Apple State for gosh sakes. Nothing for the last six days......What's up with that.

This is almost as bad as losing to App. State. Not quite, though. Preseason game.

Grand Valley State beats Michigan State 85-82 in double overtime in exhibition game - NCAA Basketball - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=AkcUQMQxRlFPC.5rwobPMdM5nYcB?slug=ap-grandvalleyst-michiganst&prov=ap&type=lgns)

The first half was very dull...210 yards of offense between them, but this is a new half. Switching up Caulcrick & Ringer (Thunder & Lightening...I like that lol) is starting to work and the passing lanes are opening.

And Ringer runs 130 yards for 72 yard gain! :D

Too bad. I would've preferred an MSU victory this season. Woulda put another nail in Lloyd's coffin.

But alas, after giving up 21 unanswered points and the offense of UM posting a 1 of 11 on first downs, they come back for a victory. Ground game looked excellent for MSU, but Michigan comes back with 7 minutes left to score 2 tDs and capture their 8th straight victory.:pound:


Lloyds coffin now being sent to East Lansing............

What a great game. MSU seems to have the talent to be a highly ranked team but they seem cursed.

Heartbreaker for MSU.

What a great game. MSU seems to have the talent to be a highly ranked team but they seem cursed.

Heartbreaker for MSU.

Yet another one for MSU. They play just well enough to make you watch...then POW!

Congratulations to U of M.

But alas, after giving up 21 unanswered points and the offense of UM posting a 1 of 11 on first downs, they come back for a victory. Ground game looked excellent for MSU, but Michigan comes back with 7 minutes left to score 2 tDs and capture their 8th straight victory.:pound:


Lloyds coffin now being sent to East Lansing............

His coffin NEEDS to be sent to Ann Arbor, for two: they can put him and that idiot AD in together.

His coffin NEEDS to be sent to Ann Arbor, for two: they can put him and that idiot AD in together.

I agree with the AD..........He IS an idiot.........:stirthepot:

Yet another one for MSU. They play just well enough to make you watch...then POW!

Congratulations to U of M.

Darth Tater, You're a class guy. I wish I could be as gracious.

This could end up being one of Carr's greatest seasons, depending on how they finish.

what a turnaround when State fans are looking forward to the Lions game for morale boost. :MusicBigGrin:

I liked the play where the MSU QB faked a fumble and deftly tossed a touchdown pass.:) nice play. !!!!

I liked it even more when Mallot fumbled late in the game, and Hart ran for an 11 yard gain and a first down.:pound: Michigan luck !!!!

For Spartan fans, here's Hondo's take on the game. He bleeds Green, and you'll see it here:

Heartbroken! (http://spartannation.com/?p=3276)

By Hondo S. Carpenter Sr.
November 3, 2007
East Lansing, MI
Spartan Stadium
Heartbroken is the only word that can describe my feelings about today. The Spartan Nation tonight will lay its head down, but won’t sleep very well. We wil