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roscoe36
04-18-2006, 09:45 PM
Well, this didn't take long... :rolleyes:

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060418/SPORTS/604180330/1002

The Magic wouldn't mind trying to lock up Milicic for as long as possible, but at a yearly salary close to the $5.2 million he is currently making. The maximum Milicic could demand would be an $83.5 million deal over six years.
"If the numbers are right, we'd be very amenable to looking at an extension," Cornstein said. "If Darko continues to play to his potential and Orlando can keep playing at the level they have, they really have something special there. There's no question his stature could be higher in 2007 than 2006." But a lot can happen in the course of a year, both good and bad."
This is EXACTLY why Joe had to move him when he did. For those of you keeping score at home, $83.5 million for 6 years is over $13 million per season.

Marc Cornstein plays hardball. He got Sam Dalembert $58 million over 6, a late first rounder who has averaged 7 points, 7 rebounds and 1.9 blocks per game on his career. And no one was bidding against Philly. LMAO!

This has the "potential" to seriously interfere with Orlando's cap situation, as both Nelson and Howard will also be looking for max deals down the road (and deservedly so).

16 Mile
04-18-2006, 10:40 PM
This has the "potential" to seriously interfere with Orlando's cap situation, as both Nelson and Howard will also be looking for max deals down the road (and deservedly so).

It can't be worse than where they are now, I think they'd be pretty happy paying 30 to 40 mil per season on Darko, Dwight, and Jameer compared to the $40 mil GHill, Anfernee Hardaway, and Christie are making this year.

With the cap space they gain over the next two years, they should be able to sign some free agents before the 08/09 season when they could have 3 guys making the max. Not unlike the Pistons who are about to enter that cap hell over the next two years, but already have the players they want and can break the cap to resign them.

(Which is also why Delfino isn't going anywhere, making $5 mil over the next 3 years, is a bargain for his talents, players like Evans are a dime a dozen)

Mad Hatter
04-18-2006, 11:06 PM
This is EXACTLY why Joe had to move him when he did. For those of you keeping score at home, $83.5 million for 6 years is over $13 million per season.

BINGO!

Pay Darko $13 Mill? Ummmmm.....I don't think so!

Orlando looks like just the guys to do it though! They've got a fan base to worry about.

roscoe36
04-18-2006, 11:08 PM
I would pay Arroyo $13 million and brand the beejeezus out of him. He's the #1 draw in town.

linwood
04-18-2006, 11:10 PM
http://enquirer.com/bearcats/2002/12/23/ucmaxiell_zoom.jpg

max
04-19-2006, 12:24 AM
It did say they wanted another year to evaluate him and are hoping for a deal along the lines of his current one.

With some deperate teams out there Darko's agent is going to ride this potential thing all the way to the bank. Then Darko will become a true bust.

lazyberbs
04-19-2006, 01:00 AM
The way I read the article was that was the MOST HE COULD ASK FOR, not what he would ask for. It seems to me that the Pistons instilled some characted in the kid and that he will sign for less in order to get and keep a team around him that could compete.

He learned a lot up here in Michigan and he is starting to put it to use, and that includes, in my estimation, his character, as well. Dwight and Jameer et al are important to Darko's future and he is happy with the situation.

He very well may NOT rock the boat; just help row it.

TaShawn
04-19-2006, 01:52 AM
I agree with Lay-Z. Darko's agent seemed pretty realistic about the situation. He basically said that both sides are choosing to gamble. If Darko don't got game, then he won't get the dough. But if he got game, then he get the max.

max
04-19-2006, 02:24 AM
ORL - "We've had a conversation, but whether we're going to extend him based on 30 games or not, I'm not sure yet," Magic assistant general manager Otis Smith said. "We'll continue conversations and evaluate it, and if it makes sense and it's something we want to do from a numbers standpoint, we'll do it. But if we can't keep the numbers down, we won't engage it."

Cornstein - "If the numbers are right, we'd be very amenable to looking at an extension," Cornstein said. "If Darko continues to play to his potential and Orlando can keep playing at the level they have, they really have something special there. There's no question his stature could be higher in 2007 than 2006." But a lot can happen in the course of a year, both good and bad."

Young Centers/PF's do get large deals. Okur, Can't recall what Curry extended for. Its their problem now.

TheeTFD
04-19-2006, 07:18 AM
Until he realizes his potential he doesn't deserve the max. But if they want to keep him they should keep his numbers equal to his value. Whatever that is?

Slippy
04-19-2006, 10:35 AM
We should reserve judgement until something actually happens. Until then you're just projecting your bias on a situation that doesn't exist.

Buckeyes#1
05-02-2006, 05:53 PM
But if they want to keep him they should keep his numbers equal to his value. Whatever that is?

That's not possible cause they have to pay him at least the league minimum. :nod:

himat
05-02-2006, 08:48 PM
The way orlando finished it's not a surprise. Orlando is making the playoffs next season. It might be very hard, but do you think with shaq another year older next season that the magic can get the southeast's best record over miami next season?

TheeTFD
05-03-2006, 06:35 AM
Eyes#1, are you saying he hasn't earned the league min. You got me.

TaShawn
05-03-2006, 01:07 PM
OK, who here posted this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darko_Milicic

TheeTFD
05-03-2006, 01:29 PM
You gunna add something?

TaShawn
05-03-2006, 01:35 PM
No, it's pretty definitive. Maybe we should add a quote from Lee357 in there.

TheeTFD
05-03-2006, 01:38 PM
Link to some of BBJs threads

roscoe36
05-03-2006, 01:39 PM
Actually, the post-Detroit bit is poorly written. I'm surprised it wasn't scrutinized by the admins. Wikipedia lets anyone add content, but the review process is really tough.

TheeTFD
05-03-2006, 01:59 PM
Yeah I've heard Wikipedia let's some unsubstantiated stuff post, likes it's ---word.

Buckeyes#1
05-03-2006, 04:49 PM
ThreeTFD

Yeah, Darko wasn't worth the league minimum when he was a Piston but for Orlando he has been. I do think Darko's future looks bright. I actually wish we could have kept him but it just wasn't meant to be. The guy is still just a kid (using NBA years). Looking back now, I wished we went with Wade or Bosh with our #2 pick but at the time, we all basically thought the decision was between Darko and Carmello.

LanierFan
05-03-2006, 05:36 PM
There were a fair number of reports that the Pistons liked Bosh. Anthony was a candidate, but he didn't come in for a team workout and the Pistons never gushed over him as they did about Darko and Bosh.

max
05-03-2006, 11:26 PM
Pistons can still get Bosh. Guess we will find out this summer if Bosh will re-sign or become a restricted FA in 07.

roscoe36
05-03-2006, 11:46 PM
It has a lot to do with who the agent is. The free agent classes get weaker and weaker as players re-up before they hit the open market. It is very hard to land a big name coming off of his rookie deal because they seem to get new deals to avoid any problems or injury issues in the last year of their initial deal.

Knowing who the agent is has to be a factor in projecting what will happen in negotiations. If you follow other sports, these agents all seem to pursue similar strategies with their entire client base.

I doubt Bosh will be available to the world. Darko? That's another matter. He's not the franchise player in Orlando. If the Magic's #s don't work, he may have an opportunity to test what the free market will pay. He's a nice piece for them to keep, but not absolutely essential to them being a playoff team.

mercury
05-04-2006, 12:41 AM
Micro, On Arroyo... now there's a Marketer for ya.

Slippy is right... it's premature to talk about Darko's worth... sure ain't the Max.

Max & Ab, absolutely Joe was hot for Bosh... no telling how LB would have played him... but it's safe to say not nearly as much as he played in Toronto.... It sounds like the Raps are ready to offer the Max... and he wants to come back there.

I have to admit, I'm less enamored with Ben lately... he should be bringing more on offense and FT shooting... the defense and hustle plays are tangible... but you can't consistently be out scored by your counter.
I'll suggest a 8M start... he can play for life here... he deserves it.

Darko hasn't justified big $'s yet

TheeTFD
05-04-2006, 07:36 AM
Like NY snatching Houston, I want the Pistons to snatch someone. It won't happen unless we lose a 1-6. JDs too tight. Delk is a keeper.