Hey, does anyone out there play fantasy football? I would appreciate some advice.

Background:I'm in a ten (10) player league and I drafted ninth (9). So basically I got the the ninth, twelfth, twenty ninth, thirty second picks, etc... (or something like that).

The league uses 1 QB, 2RB, 3WR/TE, 1K, 1Def.

My Qb's are T.Green & Griese

RB: K.Jones, J.Jones, Cadillac Williams, and W.Dunn (but on Sunday, I quickly grabbed and added free agent Willie Parker (who ran wild and was the number one back that week). So basically I have VERY good running backs (no matter what haters like Micro think about K.J.) :p

WR: M.Clayton, Housmandazwhatever, Randell el, J. Witten, Lee Evans, and Chris Chambers

Kicker: Vanderjagt

Defense: Tampa Bay and Atlanta.


Question: Should I offer Willie Parker for either Tom Brady or possibly Jake Delhomme at QB?

I'm probably weakest at receiver, but I think I want another QB.

The guy who has Tom Brady also has Peyton & Eli Manning at QB. But he is very weak at running back, IMO (Suggs, A.Green, C.Brown).

I think Pitt is going to keep playing Parker and it may be tough for Bettis and the other rb to get back in there when they get healthy. So Parker could be a stud or he may end up sitting.

So do I stockpile RB's (they are hot commodities as the season progresses) and keep Parker or try to trade him. Is it a fair deal to both sides to ask for Brady (or Delhomme). Am I asking too much or too little? Any feedback would be helpful.

Hey Darth,

I have played fantasy football for many years and have won the league or came in second place every year. Injuries are the root of all evil!!!! From what you have stated about your team you have a good crop of RB's. You should keep them at all cost. RB's are the hardest position to fill and you must protect yourself from injuries and bye weeks.

As far as the QB goes it depends on what type of point system is being used. In the league I play in the QB could be a bum as long as he passes for over 200 yards a game. If you were to trade a running back I would trade Parker. With Staley getting healthy soon Parkers touches could diminish. If your trading for a QB you trade for Brady. He is good with the ball as far as not creating alot of turnovers and puts up better than average numbers.

Thanks for your input winless.

Yeah, that's why I'm reluctant to trade him. In our league you do need a good quarterback ,though, and I don't trust Griese long termif Green goes down. I definitely want Brady but would settle for Delhomme, maybe. But it sounds like you think the guy would go for it if offered? I'm thinking the same thing as you...he may be benched later as a backup so I would trade him while his value was high. But I also don't want to worry about rb's getting injured.

I won the league last year (as a rookie) because I had good running backs and made some great free agent pick ups during the season. I'm hoping to repeat. I'm definitely hooked.

Griese is inconsistent. Tampa is not much of an offensive team anyway. Watching them play football is like watching paint dry. So I would be wary staying with him as a back up. You only have a 10 team league so what type of free agent QB's are available? Is Kurt Warner or Tim Rattay available? Kurt is going to have a very good year with Boldin and Fitzgerald to throw to and Denny Green's offenses always put up good numbers. Rattay is also an interesting play as well as a back up. He has some good WR's to throw to and has to play well or risk losing his job to Alex Smith.

Warner is gone. I had a chance at Bledsoe but hesitated too long. Rattay is available. I actually had him as a free agent last year, but he got injured so I never used him. I was thinking about him this year, though, even before game one. I don't want Ramsey. I'm reluctant to use a roster spot for Rattay though unless someone gets injured and there spot opens. That's why I was going to try to trade for a QB and get a better one. I don't want to cut a receiver for Rattay.

Another thing that I just noticed about your squad. You have too many guy's from Tampa Bay. You are going to be in trouble when there bye week comes.You have like 3 players and there defense. I would try to package Parker/ Griese for Brady and another WR.

Yeah, lol, and I don't even like Tampa Bay. Last year I had 3 Chargers (Tomlinson, Gates, and Reche Caldwell). I noticed all the Tampa stuff after the draft. But I have a solid Atlanta defense to cover for Tampa. Griese is just my backup anyhow. So really only Clayton not playing may affect me. After the late night draft, the next morning, the first thing I literally thought when I woke up was "omg...did I really take Griese over Brees and Delhomme"??? If Trent Green stays healthy I guess it won't matter in the least.

I like that last trade you proposed...you think the guy would bite on that?

Yeah I would propose the trade of Griese and Parker for Brady and a WR.
He should go for it if he really wants a quality running back and depending on what WR you want to trade for. As long as you don't ask for a top rated WR he should like the trade. You never know though. Some guy's want the world in a trade and want to give up nothing in return. If he doesn't bite you can always move on and try to shop Parker to another owner. They key is to get something for him while his value is hot.

That sounds right to me.

He has M.Harrison (out of the question, of course)

He also has Buress, Heap, Fitzgerald, B.Edwards,and patten.

I don't want Patten or Heap.

Fitzgerald , Edwards, or Buress would be nice. What do you think?

I would go for Fitzgerald first. He is going to have a break out year with
Warner throwing to him. If that did not work out then I would go for
Edwards. He has not done anything really yet so his value is really low.

The only thing that concerns me about Edwards is Trent Dilfer throwing him the ball. Also who was that Fredrick guy who caught 8 passes for 168 yards last week for the Browns? Never heard of the guy could he perhaps be benifiting from double coverage on Edwards? You might want to keep a eye on him hte next couple of weeks to see what his production looks like.

Yeah, I'll definitely watch Frederick. Thanks for the tip. There was also some T.E. on Tampa who Griese kept hitting named A.Smith.

I'm thinking this guy won't bite on Fitz or Buress after last week. I think maybe he will give me Edwards, if anyone, since he had an off week.

Actually, I don't even think he will trade Brady. But I'll email him and offer Parker and Griese for Brady and any receiver other than Heap or Patten. (That guy has Gates too, I think I missed that).

This is so funny because I can't stand U of M, and Brady, Griese, and Edwards are all from U of M. lol

QB Trent Green
RB LT
Rudi Johnson
WR Andre Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Ashley Lelie
TE Chris Cooley
K J. Hanson
D WAS

BENCH
QB M. Hasselbeck
A. Brooks
RB L. Jordan (7th round steal!)
D. Staley
WR Ke. Johnson
WR Troy Williamson

Very nice team.

Is it a 10 player league? I can't imagine you got those guys in a 12 player league. Did you get the number one overall pick or did you take LT with the number 2 after someone else took Manning? I personally was going to take Tomlinson if given the choice.

Green had a disappointing day (luckily I won anyhow), but he should do much better this week. I couldn't decide between Green and Bulger when I drafted, but I figured go with Green based on reliability. Tomlinson did ok week one, but with Gates back he should do great.

I'm not big on Hasselbeck. I wasted a number two on him last year.

I'd dump Hansen...in fact I did even before his injury. (He was my 17th & last choice)

Yup 10 teams....

I had the number 2 pick and took LT, I would have taken him with the 1st pick though.

Yeah all my QBs didnt have much to offer on week 1, I want to upgrade my receiving core by trading Rudi and Hasselbeck for a top wideout, but nobody will bite.

I wouldn't let go of Rudi. You don't want to be thin in the RB column, and Rudi is reliable. You don't really have anyone to replace him with and you already have pretty decent receivers. Don't go for flash. IMO no position is more important than RB. Nobody is going to give you Owens or Moss for Johnson anyhow, so hang on to him.

I didnt really want to, but it seems like this league favors receivers more, giving a point per reception. And since I have L. Jordan, I thought it would be a good idea. I dont really like my receivers except for Johnson and he has Carr throwing to him so I cant expect a huge year from him. But I do like the Fitz pickup, I think I got him in the 6th round.

But this is my first fantasy league so I'm kinda new to this.

My league only gives a half point per reception. Still, each week check out the available players list. You can have them list each player by position, fantasy points scored to date, points last year, etc. (Are you on a yahoo league)? I picked up really good receivers that way last year (Antonio Gates, Michael Clayton, Lee Evans) and I won my league as a rookie.

The teams that started out hot ended up doing poorly later because injured running backs are much harder to replace than injured receivers. People were knocking at my door for running backs late last year and I expect the same this year. heck, I even made the mistake of drafting Kevan Barlow (a huge bust last year) and people were asking for him they needed backs so bad. The Carolina back and Pittsburgh back did well this week. I'd grab one of them if still available.

Dump that kicker though. Hanson is the best, maybe, but over the years his fantasy value was low because he doesn't score much due to the Lions historically poor play. With the injury he isn't worth anything. Kickers are easy to find.

Just my opinions. I'm no expert. You gotta make your own decisions (i.e. don't get mad at me if Rudi Johnson gets hurt or something).

Your WR's are not bad. I would dump Williamson though. I thought he was going to be the man but the Vikings are dumb. They have him returning freaking kicks. They are going to get him killed. So I dumped him.

Koren Robinson looks like he may catch on with the Vikings so watch for him to light it up and become a major impact to the Vikings offense. You might want to think about stashing him on your bench now before he gets going.

I just read a hot off the press update on Hanson on the Yahoo fantasy page.

The Lions checked out two kickers, but are waiting to see how Hanson is doing before signing one. They said Hanson has a great history kicking well against the bears so you may want to consider that.

What do you guys think about Jermaine Wiggins (T.E. on the vikes). I dumped him to pick up Parker on Sunday.

Maybe I should dump J.Witten another post draft pickup and get Wiggens back? Witten doesn't look like he is going to get much this year.


Winless: I proposed the Brady trade to that guy. Fingers crossed. I didn't include the Griese for a receiver part..I would have liked to do it, but I didn't want to push it. I doubt he will even do the part I did offer.

Yeah, Yahoo league.

I was thinking about dropping Staley (I have no idea why I drafted him in the first place) b/c of that younger back who might take over. Stephen Davis might be avail.

I think I'm going to stick with Hanson unless there is a much better option to pick up. But I think Jason will get more opportunities this year (hopefully the injury wont be too serious) b/c we are still going to have trouble putting it in the endzone, but should be able to move the ball more.

I think Witten is the man, I would love for someone to drop him in my league!

Yeah, I've scratched my head over a couple choices I made on draft day too. You never know though. I got lucky with my 15th choice last year (wr Brandon Stokley), while my 5th choice (wr Charles Rogers) only played 3 downs before being injured and out for the year.

There is soooo much luck involved.

Looks like you made good choices overall. You never know about Staley, even though right now it doesn't look too promising.

Just saw your witten post. Yep. That's why I'm reluctant to drop him. I couldn't believe nobody drafted him. Must have been an oversight.

Darth,

Hey atleast you tried. If he does not go for the trade just hold on for a while. Injuries will make someone desperate for a starting RB and you will be able to get someone good.

My team is stacked at RB. I have Shaun Alexander, Ahman Green, Rudi Johnson,Willie Parker and Michael Bennett. I wanted to trade Parker or Bennett but got no takers. So I am just going to hold on. I have Joe Horn, Jerry Porter, Lee Evans and Andre Johnson as WR's with Crumpler at TE and Brady at QB with Bledsoe as a back up.

I would go for Chris Baker at TE. He is from Michigan State and now plays for the Jets. Chad Pennington loves throwing to the TE. The Minnesota TE is okay but with Moss gone the middle of the field is not going to be as open as it was.

Your WR's are not bad. I would dump Williamson though. I thought he was going to be the man but the Vikings are dumb. They have him returning freaking kicks. They are going to get him killed. So I dumped him.

I thought he would be a number 2 option for sure (before K. Robinson), but they have him 4th on the depth chart. Anyway I think its only a matter of time before he blows up. He's the fastest on the team (I think). Tooo much speed to keep on the bench, especially if they are losing like they did the other day.

I saw Williamson in the preseason and he looked like a stud. I don't know what the Vikes deal is . You pay this guy all this money and then leave him on the bench? Makes no since to me. You get the kid on the field and if the playbook is a problem for him right now you get him to learn 4 or 5 basic plays so he can produce. The same thing can be said about Mike Williams. Let him play and worry about the playbook later.

I picked up Keenan Mcardell in Williamson place. I could not believe he was available. But I am watching Williamson closely if he starts doing something I will pick him back up.

I was just reading that Koren Robinson got cut from the Vikes and then resigned so that they could offer him a 1 year contract instead of a 2 year deal and now his deal is not guranteed. Interesting. So I am thinking either they are using this to motivate him to produce or they are doing this to protect themselves if he starts back boozing.

Winless, you've got a solid team.

You must have taken those running backs with your first 3 picks and grabbed Horn with #4 ? Did you pick number two or three overall? I had decided to take Alexander before Manning and take Manning third. But I got 9th choice so it wasn't an option, lol. I wanted James after Manning. I was surprised he fell to 6th. The number four person took Culpepper. I tohught that was crazy, but who knows.

Did you pick up Parker after the draft?

Did you win last week? I know Brady did great and Evans did so so.

My guys had a relatively lousy week, but I got lucky and played a team that did worse.

The Vikings team is so hard to gauge right now from a fantasy standpoint. Look at their running backs too. Will Mewelde Moore be the man in a bit? I picked him up last year, but he had a costly fumble and they treated him like Darko the rest of the season. LOL. So I was reluctant to let him go...instead I stupidly cut Larry Johnson when I needed a kicker for the bye week! I was so mad because I played the team that picked him up in the super bowl. I thought he would kill me, but he was the only guy who played well for the other team.

That's the bad part. I lost last week. I have all of this fire power and got beat. The guy I played had Bulger who lit Arizona up.


I had the 3rd pick in the draft. I drafted RB's for the first 3 rounds then I drafted 2 WR's Joe Horn and Andre Johnson. Then I took a TE and got Crumpler. I got Brady with a 7th round pick which is a steal at that point. I picked Parker up as a Free Agent before the season started. Somebody dropped Jerry Porter for Charles Rogers so I picked him up too. They must have been a homer!!! LOL!!

LOL. Yep. I figured you picked like that. I drafted 3 running backs first too. I stole warrick Dunn in the 8th round. Brady went in the 7th round in our draft also. After the top 3, the quarterbacks went surprisingly late, I thought. I like to grab a qb relatively early and grabbed Green in the 4th. I could have waited a bit longer and got Bulger or Collins as it turned out. After that I liked Brady.

Wherever you are I hope you see this. Get Jason Hanson out of your lineup. He isn't playing today for sure.

Wherever you are I hope you see this. Get Jason Hanson out of your lineup. He isn't playing today for sure.

I would drop Hanson all together. The Lions don't see the endzone enough and the way things are going the field goals are not going to come easy either.

Yeah I dropped him the other day after realizing that he had a bye in week 3 (on top of him possibly not kicking yesterday).

I picked up the NO kicker, hopefully he'll duplicate last weeks numbers.

I should pull out a victory this week, I'm down about 15-20 points but I still have my kicker, C. Cooley & Dallas D (or Washington D, I think Dallas D will have a better game based on their offenses). All they have left is NYG D.

What do you think, will I pull out a 'W'?

I'd go with Washington. But that N.Y. Giant D is very good too. I'd pass on Dallas, but Washington's offense isn't too good. Lots of choices and whatever you choose will determine whether you win or lose, I think.

Good Luck. I think it could be very close. Your kicker should get at least 6 so you need at least 10 from your defense. It's hit or miss and teams usually score a lot on Monday night so it could be tough on your D. However, Atlanta's D got about 12 last week against a very good Philly offense.

Unfortunately, I'm going to lose this week. Trent Green had a bad week again. I'm down 22 points. I need a miracle. I have Julius Jones running tonight, but the other guy has a kicker. So Julius would need like 28 against a tough Washington D. Too bad he isn't running against the Lions.

BTW...that guy never replied to me, so I held on to Parker and played him instead of Kevin Jones. Kevin had about 3 and Parker had 17:) Not that it did any good in the long run, though.

I did great this week. I crush my opponent.

Darth, Yeah maybe you should just keep Parker. It might work out for the best. He is starting to look like the real deal. KJ is going to get killed playing behind that terrible Offensive Line. You never know JJ might break one run for some big yardage against Washington. He might get lose on a screen play or something.

#1 Pistonsfan, The New Orleans kicker is okay but I think he misses a lot of kicks. Does you league penalize for missed fg kicks??

Congrats on your win!!!! :)

Yeah, it looks like I'll keep Parker. If that guy was waiting to respond until he saw what happened this week, he can forget it.

Yeah, Julius may get a good run, but I don't like my chances.He needs a lot to help me. I really thought Green would do well, but he just doesn't need to throw it with those great RB's at his disposal... plus a couple of guys he tossed the ball to were stopped at the one yard line. Next play a rb took it in which gets me nothing. I guess most of the top Q's aren't doing well yet (Manning, Green, Culpepper, etc.) so I can't really complain too much.

I also have to root against the Saints kicker (sorry #1 Pistonfan)

I'm excited about Cadillac though. I think you are right about K.Jones. Lucky thing I have other good rb's. The next 3 games are going to be rough on owners of Lions fantasy players due to good opposing D's. Hell, the rest of the season may be rough the way they are playing.

I made a couple of moves this week you guys may not like. I thought I needed to do them though.

I dropped Witten early monday and picked up T. Dilfer. Witten hasn't got anything yet and T.Green is scaring me after two unproductive weeks (My team is 1 - 1). Dilfer was the best available. It was him or Frerotte. I'm playing Griese this week since he is matched up against Green Bay.

Today, I dropped the Atlanta Defense (I still own Tampa). I picked up T.Glenn. He was on my roster when I drafted, but I had dumped him for Witten. Glenn did great last week and is matched up against san Fran this week.

I needed a receiver. I don't trust C. Chambers. And Lee Evans has done nothing so far.
I'm playing Clayton and Housmandish(sp?) this week. Randell el has a bad matchup too.

If Witten isn't grabbed off waivers and has a good week, I may drop Chambers or Evans. They were like my 7th & 9th picks though, so I'm reluctant to boot them so early.

I grabbed Atlanta #14 & Witten I got off waivers, so I let them go. I wasn't happy about it but I need one of the next two games to stay in the race. My team is solid (although not spectacular...no glitz), so I think as the season progresses my team will get better.

What do you guys think? Let me know.

Did I let the wrong guys go (Warrick Dunn is my 5th back, but I like to horde backs). No way I release Julius or Kevin Jones or Cadillac. Parker is too hot right now to release. My only other option was M.Williams on Detroit, but he is challenging Rogers for the starting position and he could be dangerous. Shoiuld I have passed on Dilfer? He was player of the week, I think. I wish I could have waited, but I lost Bledsoe by hesitating a couple days.

Decisions...Decisions, lol

Looks like dropping witten might have been your best bet, but M. Williams? He should definitely be dropped, unless theres that much depth on your teams (must be twelve teams too). I'm giving up all hope on our Lions this year. Actually more specifically Joey. Man all that talent at receiver, anyway I cant even talk about that anymore, way too depressing...

And I wouldnt drop Chambers I dont think you're going to find much better available for pick up. Especially if you're holding on to M. Williams...

I know what you mean with Trent Green, the dude is pissing me off...

If I played Hasselbeck last week I would have won, but NYG Def blew up on NO so I got smoked by 20...

Yeah, I was on the receiving end of Hasselbeck's good day. It killed me. It was especially frustrating since he was lousy for me last year and I avoided him like the plague this year.

Yeah, M. Williams may be a waste. But something told me to hold on. I'm worried about my Lion's guys too. I'm even concerned about Kevin Jones production because of the Lion's play (or lack thereof).

Actually, we only have a 10 man league and I drafted Williams around 10th, I think.

I didn't expect this from Green. I drafted him to make sure I had no Hasselbeck/quarterback issues this year. I seriously considered going with Bulger, but figured Green was safer....HA!:frusty:

Cadillac has been on fire. I have him in my pool as well.

I don't think Parker's value can possibly get any higher than it is now. If you're going to trade him, now's the time. There's no way he'll be able to maintain his current pace throughout the year, especially when the other 2 backs come back from injury.

Mike Williams is currently 4th on the teams depth chart, behind Roy, Charles and Kevin, but I think he'll be 2nd or 3rd by the end of the year. Charles will be 4th and it will be a battle between MW and Johnson for the 2.

Bettis will vulture those goal line carries soon, but I don't see any takers for Parker in my league. There were no trades all of last year in my league and none so far this year. I don't know if that is typical of most leagues or not.

I'm hearing the same thing that you just said about Williams possibly taking Rogers' spot in a couple of weeks. That's why I'm reluctant to let him go. IF the Lions offense ever gels, Williams could do really well.



IF

I had Trent Green last year. He started the season off very slow. He did not get going until like the 6th or 7th game. I benched him after week 2 and went with my back up. You have to play Trent when the match up is right against soft defenses against the pass.

I don't know about Mike Williams. He has the talent but can Joey get him the ball to put up the numbers?

Are you sure you about letting go Atlanta's defense? I would have let Tampa Bay go instead.

Wow no trades. That is so lame. I am in a 10 team league and there has been like 10 trades already. Not really big name guy's getting traded but 3 tier players like Kevin Barlow or Eric Moulds.

I don't know about Mike Williams taking Rogers job. I don't think Mike is fast enough to be the second WR. I don't know why they are jumping on Rogers anyway 4 catches for 64 yards in 2 games is not that bad. It is hard to catch the ball when your QB does not throw it to you. That is the one think that I can't stand about Joey he locks in on a guy and will start just throwing to that guy and ignores everyone else. They could be wide open and he won't look there way.:frusty:

It wasn't easy letting go of Atlanta, but Tampa has scored about 27 fantasy points to Atlanta's 16 over 2 games (very average, albeit only after 2 games). I really didn't want to let go, but with my QB not playing well, I felt (panicked?) I needed to do something now to try to win a couple of early games. I figured when I did it that someone would grab them off waivers right away, but I went for it anyhow. I knew I may regret it later.

I did read that Trent Green was off to a slow start last year, but If he can't throw one TD pass in 2 games (even against Oakland), then I think I'm in trouble. Why throw when you have Priest & Johnson?

Last year I took chances and went with the "hot hand" and it worked out. This year I may get burned.

I'm not going that far this year anyhow. I looked at week 15 (first of 2 playoff weeks) and I see horrible matchups for almost all of my best players (I think most play Chicago, New England, etc.) All great defenses.

Last year I lucked out. I scored 171 points in the "Super Bowl". That beat the previous high score of any person in the league that entire season by a whopping 40 points!!!!(I'd say the average per game was maybe 100 per team) I had good matchups and almost every guy on my team scored 20-30 points. Truly lucky and unbelievable. Perfect timing. Not this year, I think. lol.

But yeah, I let Witten & Atlanta go & picked up Glenn and Dilfer. At the beginning of the season I would say..."Are you crazy????" I may say that in 4 weeks anyhow! :doh: We'll see.

Interesting. Nobody claimed Atlanta OR Witten. In fact, somebody dropped the Giants defense which is the best fantasy defense so far, and nobody claimed them either.

Yeah. Lame is exactly the word I was thinking about for our league. I only know 2 of the people in it. One is the commisioner. Last year I won but the dumb commissioner didn't get the money in advance so 3 people never paid their 60 dollar entry fee and I probably would have seen about $45 from that (I don't play for the money, but still it takes away from the victory and ticks you off). But he made one guy pay my entry fee this year, so I prolly only got screwed out of 25 bucks in the end. The other 2 guys were kicked out, I guess.

I almost did a trade last year (Barlow for Garcia, lol), but it was like 15 minutes before the game and as much as I wanted a QB (I actually didnt need one..I had Hasselbeck, Delhomme, and I think I already had Griese..maybe not) I didn't make the deal because as bad as Barlow was, I thought he was better than Garcia (who was injured shortly afterward, I believe). It turned out I didn't need the QB.

With only 10 teams everyone is probably pretty satisfied with there defense right now. I don't know. Since your league has not even had one trade they might be asleep at the wheel and don't even know Witten or Atlanta were cut.

Yeah. It makes you wonder.

I'll just chill and live with the moves I made or I'll keep changing so much I'll run out of my 16 allowableseason moves before the 2nd week is up,lol...err...gulp...at least no new moves until next week! ;)

Yeah. It makes you wonder.

I'll just chill and live with the moves I made or I'll keep changing so much I'll run out of my 16 allowableseason moves before the 2nd week is up,lol...err...gulp...at least no new moves until next week! ;)

Ypu are only allowed 16 moves? That sucks. We have unlimited moves and trades in my league. A trade just went thru today.
Boldin WR and Pollard TE for Brooks QB and Perry RB.

I like the system you have better. Yep. Only 16 for us. The commish ticked me off last year when he gave extra moves to a team that was having hard luck, but refused to do the same for me when I requested it afterwards. :mad2:

That is bull crap!! I hope you are just playing for fun and not playing for $$$$. You might be better off just joining a public league next year or finding someone else to paly with.

No. It's a couple of people I know and their friends. It was last year. That's ok, though. :)

btw..the commissioner picked up my Atlanta today , but my Glenn move and Dilfer move are very popular throughout the Yahoo leagues.

How did you guys do this week?

I'm up 16 points on an undefeated team but the other guy has Tony Gonzales who plays tomorrow. It should be close. All my guys played today.

I picked up the Giants D and got Witten back, lol. I dropped Lee Evans & M. Williams.

I dropped Lee Evans also. I did pretty okay this week. I won in my league and lost in the second league. I have Shaun Alexander in both so I am trying to figuire out how could I lose. Ahman Green has been a real bust this year. I may need to put him on the trading block.

With LT throwing TDs, I think I'll win every week....

I never cared much for Ahman, anyhow. I actually left Jamal, Faulk, and Ahman off my draft list. Green Bay is really struggling. With that receiver hurt it certainly doesn't help Ahman. Personally, I'd dump him if posible.

It looks like a lot of people gave up on Evans. I can't believe i wasted a move picking up the Giants defense. Luckily, I didn't play them. I wish I had kept Atlanta, but Tampa is doing well for me.

Wow. Somehow I missed Alexander's great day. I looked it up after reading your post. 38 points in our league. Your other guys must have had really bad days in that league you lost in. I still can't believe 48 points for Tomlinson in our league. I had him last year. No chance at him this year drafting ninth.

LT THREW a touchdown??? WOW. I looked real quick and thought he caught one. Too funny. How many points did he score in your league?

I thought I had added Ahman Green to my don not draft list. The guy that I play with in the second league screwed up his email account so he had to set up a new league and I could not get my rankings to copy over so I had to do it over so I think I forgot to put him on the do not draft list. I have had Green 3 years in a row now. He fumbles too much. I think I will have to bench him. He has very little trade value with Green Bay playing like crap.

LT THREW a touchdown??? WOW. I looked real quick and thought he caught one. Too funny. How many points did he score in your league?

LT is the man. if only he could get away from the Chargers.

He put just over 50 points! Which was almost half my total. He definitely carried me this week.

I have a question guys, who do you think I should start, M. Hasselbeck (vs. WAS) or T. Green (vs. PHI). ESPN says Hasselbeck, but I think WAS Def is better than Phili D.....also I pick up Lloyd from SF (vs. Ari), who should I start him or Ke. Johnson (vs. Oak)?

At QB, I would sit Green, and in fact, I'm playing Griese over him. Greens thrown one TD all year. I don't trust him plus his hand is a little hurt from someone stepping on it. I am not a Hasselbeck fan (after he burned me last year), but he is doing better than Green. Yes, Washington's D is good, but doesn't Philly have a good pass D? I thought they did, maybe not.

The experts are saying go with Lloyd at WR because he is hot and he is an excellent play. They were saying Woodson is going to give Ke. Johnson a hard time and he is an ok play. So they would tell you go with Lloyd (as long as his last name isn't Carr):laugh:

At QB, I would sit Green, and in fact, I'm playing Griese over him.

Playing Griese just because he has a game against the Lions. lol. you ain't right!

I was thinking I should go with Lloyd, but I was leaning towards Green as far as my QB goes. He has to show up sometime, right?

Well guess I'll go with Hasselbeck, I have their TE starting too. My only hope in winning this week is them 2 connecting on a few TDs (long shot) or LT blowin up again (but against NE). The guy I'm playin is averaging over 130 (Moss & Holt, capable of 30 each) and I'm averaging around 110.

Playing Griese just because he has a game against the Lions. lol. you ain't right!

lol. That did play a part in my decision. I'm actually playing Clayton, Griese, the Tampa defense AND Cadillac Williams. I benched Kevin Jones.

Ironically,for once I'm hoping the Lions don't dissappoint me by playing well!!! Nah...they wouldn't...would they?:flypig:

All year last year I played who ever played the Lions when I could. I was racking up points left and right. The bigest points I racked up was when I had Brandon Stokely starting the week the Lions played them on Thanksgiving Day last year. :nod:

lmao. My kids still tease me about the way I kept jumping off the couch and cheering when my 15th round sleeper (Stokley), lit the lions up. Didn't he get 3 touchdowns in the first half? That was great. I knew the Lions were going to lose anyhow, so it made the turkey taste especially good that night.

lol. That did play a part in my decision. I'm actually playing Clayton, Griese, the Tampa defense AND Cadillac Williams. I benched Kevin Jones.

Ironically,for once I'm hoping the Lions don't dissappoint me by playing well!!! Nah...they wouldn't...would they?:flypig:


LOL!!! Darth

Griese might just have a career day in a Tampa Bay uniform. and Cadillac is going to drive right through the boring predictable lions defense. I don't see the Lions having a chance of winning especially after I heard Mooch gave them a half day off on Monday and the whole day off on Tuesday when they should have been practicing. What a joke!!!:frusty:

I don't see the Lions having a chance of winning especially after I heard Mooch gave them a half day off on Monday and the whole day off on Tuesday when they should have been practicing. What a joke!!!:frusty:

If this is true....

...excuse me while I flush my head down the toilet.

Absolutely ridiculous..

...and predictable.

I hadn't heard about Mooch giving them those days off. What did they do to earn it? Lemme guess? A receiver actually caught a pass in practice or something? Seems like they would need all the practice they could get after the Bears game. Instead of being hard on them he rewards them. Typical. Makes me wanna :puke:

I hadn't heard about Mooch giving them those days off. What did they do to earn it? Lemme guess? A receiver actually caught a pass in practice or something? Seems like they would need all the practice they could get after the Bears game. Instead of being hard on them he rewards them. Typical. Makes me wanna :puke:


Yeah it is pretty pathetic especially since they were just coming off a bye week in which they had 4 days off.

Well well well...that dufus who never had the courtesy to respond to my email 2 weeks ago (offering Parker for Brady), just made an appeal to our league stating he needs a quality running back bad and will trade Eli Manning or Brady to get one. I responded reminding him of my last offer but said "I have 5 quality rb's and probably would prefer Manning at this point,what's your offer?"

OK guys...Manning or Brady???? (I have trent green ,Griese, and Dilfer currently).

Who should I trade??? He won't take Parker, I'll bet. That leaves Kevin Jones, Julius, Carnell & Warrick Dunn. I don't tihnk I can part with the first 3 (even though Carnell is hurting) as they were my first 3 draft choices. I'm thinking let him have Dunn? I actually drafted Dunn as trade bait (and insurance) & stole him in the 8th round.

Brady is struggling but Eli is hot right now.

Help!!!! lol

I told you he would come crawling you just had to be patient!!! LOL:)

I still would go for Brady. Manning is still only in his second year and he has played some weak teams thus far.. Brady is still the man. If the game is on the line who would you want as your QB? I have Brady and he still has put up two 300 yard games so far.

As for the RB, I don't know I would rather give up Kevin Jones or Julius Jones. That inept idiot Mooch keeps limiting KJ's carries and benching him and the Lions play some tough defenses in the weeks ahead Ravens, Panthers and Falcons. I don't see him busting out with that terrible offensive line not creating holes either.

:confused: Thanks a lot!! Now I don't know what to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

This decision could make or break my season.

That guy hasn't responded to me yet. He is gonna wait to see what he is offered from everyone else,I think, but nobody can outdo me on running backs. ;)

He took Brady in the 8th round..eli in the 14th. So normally I'd think Brady, but the Pats are having problems and Eli is just on fire. I may have to go for broke. I just don't know. I played it safe by drafting Trent Green in the 4th round (passing on Bulger) and that move threatens to destroy my season. If Eli stays hot, I am dangerous.

Bettis & Staley vulture carries & touchdowns from Warrick...thats why I was gonna part with him.

I agree, Brady is the better option, but with the way Eli is playing I dont think you can go wrong with either one.

As far as the RBs I would give up KJ, but I'm really pissed at the Lions and have lost all hope, so that opinion might be a little biased. But if he'll go for Dunn (which I dont think he would) I'd give him up.

I know. I'm fed up with the Lions too. Thing is, I don't expect the team to get good and win games but I wouldn't be surprised if some aspects of their game improve (like their running game). If that happens, I would be throwing out my number one draft choice (KJ).

That guy hasn't responded. I should just make an offer to the entire league...that may wake him up. I would snatch up Drew Brees if I could too. Maybe I can get Mcnabb if I up the ante with a better rb. Probably not.

Sometimes you just have to roll the dice. Offering up a couple RB's to the entire league might be wise. You want to get the best value and this guy wants to play games and could hang you out to dry by trading with someone else.

I think you're right. 4 people made running back offers, but I know mine was the best. Still, the jerk hasn't responded to anyone. Problem is, after 4 weeks, things are topsy turvy because so many qb's are playing poorly. So I think nobody will respond at this point, but I may try. That trend of qb's playing bad may turn around soon and then my rb's will be worth more.

I know the person with Brees and Culpepper made an offer to the guy as did someone with Collins & Bledsoe. The last offeree had Mcnair & someone (Vick, maybe). I told the person with Brees I want him if they can make a deal & get Manning or Brady so that Brees is expendable. I also told the commissioner what a lame-arse league we have.
So really, who is left? Delhomme maybe, but I don't think that team will deal.

Anyhow, I read yesterday that Trent Green for the last several years always started out horrible for the first 4 games and then went crazy. If thats the case, I drafted the right guy and I have a great QB...problem is, I don't trust that to happen again.

I need to decide who to play this week. Kevin Curtis or Housmedazdeh? House is banged up, but great. Also W.Parker or K.Jones (Bad matchup for Jones but I got a feeling on this one even though it's Detroit and I never know what they are going to do....also Parker plays monday night(almost always a good thing).

Decisions decisions.

I don't know KJ vs. Ray Lewis? KJ might truck over a lot of guy's in the NFL but I don't see him going thru Ray Lewis on his way to the endzone.

That is true about Green. I had him last year and he got hot around game 7 and just lit it up. I think this year something is wrong with his arm though. He has the Joey Harrington complex which is not like him.

Cincy is on a roll so I think any Bengal will give you decent points.

Yeah, maybe I'll go with Parker. Monday night and all...I just hope nobody vultures the touchdowns.
And yes, something seems wrong with Green.
I'd go with house in a second but it seems like players listed as questionable either get nothing or 20 points. Never in between. Tough to bench him though. Poor guy has had 3 touchdowns called back on penalties in the last 2 weeks.

Mike Williams starting for Lions today as the #2 according to ESPN.

Mike Williams starting for Lions today as the #2 according to ESPN.

I know. And my gut tells me to play him, but I can't against that Baltimore D. I hope he does do well though...for the Lions sake & plus I'll be able to use him next week :)

How did you guys do this week?

I am getting killed. My team is banged up. Ahman Green gets injured so I pick up Najah Davenport and he breaks his ankle today. I got Joe Horn who is injured so I played one of my back ups Andre Johnson and he gets injured without making a catch. This has been a rough couple of weeks.:doh:

That stinks that your getting blown out. It's better than what I did though, lol.

I made some crucial managing errors and it will probably cost me the game. Things could not have gone worse if I tried, lol.

Benched: RB K.Jones (17) and Dunn (11) and I started J.Jones (7...pulled early due to blowout))

Benched Dilfer (17) played Griese (7)

Benched Glenn (25!!!!) started Chambers (8...had td called back)

So basically I'm down like 5 points because the team I played also stunk it up.

Tonight my opponent has Jacksonville Def & monday they have D. Brees QB

Monday I have W.Parker RB and Randell el WR

So it's looking bad. Had I played my bench I would have won in a blowout! :mad::frusty:

I hear what you are saying. I totally dropped the ball this week. I should have picked up Joe Juravicious but I just had to listen to those clowns this morning on Yahoo that said Andre Johnson was a good start that he would have a monster game today and that Juravicious would not be much value because Shaun Alexander would get 40 carries. I went against my gut that Juravicious was a sure thing for this week against a weak Rams defense. I am still kicking myself. :mad: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:

I got blown back....

Two of my receivers got shut down, B. Lloyd & A. Johnson, I'm not sure they scored any points!

I still have LT but I cant expected him to score over 60....

I got blown back....

Two of my receivers got shut down, B. Lloyd & A. Johnson, I'm not sure they scored any points!

I still have LT but I cant expected him to score over 60....

Especially against Pittsburgh. :(

My team is falling fast and I'll be 2-4 after tonight. (Too many injuries to key players(J.Jones, Cadillac, Housmandezdah, Griese, Randell el, K. Jones). Plus my qb still stinks (T.Green).

Stinking Shaun Alexander burned me for 38 points last night. What did he have...4 touchdowns or something? Yeesh.

Anyhow, I made more changes. I dropped Dilfer, Griese, and Michael Williams.

I picked up the Detroit Defense becauseTampa has a bye next week and also acquired Josh Mccown & Mark Brunell. Hopefully that solves my QB problems. One of those two guys should continue to play well (hopefully McCown keeps the job when Warner returns).

I have Shaun Alexander and he is a team by himself. :) I am very happy that I have a big lead going into tonights game but I don't know if I will win. The guy I am playing has Edge going tonight and I am up by 45 points. I have Stephen Jackson going tonight but the Colts defense has been tough this year and the the Rams defense is not all that great so Edge might have a big game.

Edge is gonna have to run all over Indiana tonight if he is going to get 45 points! lol. I have K. Curtis and Vanderjagt tonight, but I know I can't make up the 45 points I am down. You've got the win for sure. Don't sweat it. :)

Wow. Edgerrin DID have a great game. 35 points in my league. You still won though! Plus Jackson did really well for you. :thumb:

Wow. Edgerrin DID have a great game. 35 points in my league. You still won though! Plus Jackson did really well for you. :thumb:

I won by 25 points. I got nervous there for a second. It seemed like Edge was running like he was a rookie again. :laugh:

If you guys have any Dolphins or Chiefs on your rosters that you are planning on playing this weekend, make sure you put them in by tonight. That game has been moved to Friday due to Wilma.

Thanks Darth. I don't have any players form those teams on my roster.

This week should be very interesting. I am somewhat healthy and I have some favorable matchups at the RB position. It should be a good week.
If not I guess I will beat my head against the wall. :frusty:

One of the guy's in my league that I am palying started talking trash saying that your my squad is stacked so the only reason you have a lossing record must be coaching. I laughed at first but I started to think about it more and I was like MAN!! He might be right. I have second guessed myself too much this season and it cost me atleast 2 games this year. I should not be 3-3. I should be 5-1.:doh:

Yeah, don't you hate it when your guy on the bench gets 25 points and the starter gets 8 points. I did that with like 3 guys 2 weeks ago, but it's really just luck. Don't kick yourself. It's good that your team is healthy.

My team is 2-4. I'm injury plagued. K.Jones, J.Jones, Cadillac, Houzmandzedh, and Randel El. I can barely field a squad. Griese also out.

Then my new QB (Brunell) just hurt himself in PRACTICE! And stupid Dennis Green won't tell us if he is playing Warner at QB or my other new guy (J.Mccown).

I drafted for depth but this is ridiculous.

Oh well, at least our fantasy basketball is coming up soon!! It should be an interesting learning experience for me.

I am now 3-4. I have injuires everywhere!! I have stooped so low that I have picked up Az Hakim and will have to start him next week. That loser Ahman Green went right back out with the same injury that cost me a win two weeks ago. Now they are reporting he is done for the season. GREAT!!! Now I have to pick up some scrub RB that only gets to carry the ball 4 times a game.:frusty:

Sorry to hear that Winless. I feel for you. I'm just getting my three running back studs back. I was extremely deep (5 deep) but still have a 3 game losing streak. It's hard to find a good running back as a free agent. Maybe pick up whoever takes over for Ahman. You may need to trade. I think the trading deadline is Nov.5th in my league.


If Warrick Dunn can get me 9 points tonight I'll win and be 3-4. He has scored over 9 points in 5 of 6 games this year, and averages around 11, I think. He should reach 9 tonight too especially since Duckett won't play, but I dunno. My luck has been horrible!!!

btw....I did get lucky on QB's finally. I picked up Brunell and Mccown as F.A.'s last week. Brunell is playing like crazy! Hopefully Dunn doesn't waste it for me.

Tony Fisher is the backup.

Tony Fisher is the backup.

Yeah it looks like I may have to pick him up even though he sucks.

Now Torry Holt is hurt!! When will it end!!!:frusty:

Yeah it looks like I may have to pick him up even though he sucks.

Now Torry Holt is hurt!! When will it end!!!:frusty:

It doesn't end man. I am the G.M. of the walking wounded. It only gets worse. :(

Just do your best to hang in there so you can maybe squeeze in to the playoffs at the end. You may have to make some long term sacrifices in order to win now so that you do have a chance later. If you lose 3 or 4 in a row this next month, what you do later won't even matter regardless of how well you play. Check the free agent list. Look at the next couple upcoming games to see who plays San Francisco & stuff like that. They should have some good advice about pickups today on yahoo. Grab them fast if you like em." You're in a position where you have to take chances perhaps.

I'm not sure how bad off you really are. I know you still have Alexander and a couple other guys. Maybe you can weather the storm without making moves. :rain::smow:

Try Marion Barber, Cowboys RB. He should be available if you act quick. They play a horrible run defense and Julius Jones almost surely won't be active.

Thanks Darth for the pep talk.

I have to get creative. I can do this. I have done it before.
Barber might be a good paly if he doesn't fumble the ball. I heard Parcells fired there field goal kicker right there on the spot last week. Did you see the ESPN highlights when Parcells swatted one of his assistant coaches out of the way? it almost looked like he punched the guy in the arm.