Lions players file grievance!

I can't believe it! Practice is to hard. We don't like contact. Rod's just so mean! Well girls, filing a grievance because you're expected to work hard and earn your millions speaks volumes about you as a person and explains great reason why we have been the laughing stock, bottom feeders, alge suckers of the league!

I remember being a kid playing football in the back yard with other neighborhood kids and there wasn't one time I didn't come home with some sort of bump, bruise or cut. Did I have a players union to go to because I didn't like the way my buddy Bobby about tore my head off? No! Our unions were are mothers that settled whatever differences the kids had amoungst mothers. The very next day we were right back at it beating the heck out of one another and coming right back at night so our moms could tend to or wounds. I remember my mom asking "Why do you guys plays this stupid game?" I would respond by saying " Because I love playing"

My point being we played for the enjoyment of the sport. Something our Lions have forgotten. We played not for money but instead for a chance to dream of becomming a pro or just to hang out with friends. Buddies! Our Lions are simply about the money and nothing more. The grievance proves that.

One last thing before I finish. Every once in awhile being an adult theres thingsin life that you dont want to do or have no choice but to do it. Thats just life! And sometimes when the pressures on it doesn't hurt to take a step back and remember the good "ol days of things that you enjoyed as a kid. I wish the Detroit lions from top to bottom would all take a step back and remember how good it felt to get out there with their brothers and friends. It might just help them regain some of the passion for the sport. The same passion that lifted them to the Pros. If not, this them will always suck alge! Of course, this is all just one mans opinion!!!!

"Having millionaire athletes complain about too-tough workouts for a franchise that has gone a NFL-worst 21-59 over the last five seasons and routinely showed a distinct lack of toughness, competitive fire or football acumen is comical".

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApVAcxaV8syHc4KA6vvFTTw5nYcB?slug=dw-lions050706&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

What a bunch of arse-clowns. Leave now Marinelli while you still have your sanity.

This grievance pisses me off to no end!!! Are you freaking kidding me?!?!?!?!

The players on this sad sack team have no leg to stand on. It would be one thing if they played hard, smart, error free football consistently on Sundays. If they tackled well, executed plays properlly, gave 100% effort on every down, THEN maybe I'd SLIGHTLY understand. But this team needs all the practice they can get.

I'm so sorry that you get paid MILLIONS of dollars to play a game every week. Granted, its a gruelling, physical game, but its a game that you willingly played for FREE as a kid in your back yard, for FREE on your High School team and for FREE in college. So now I'm supposed to feel sorry for you because Mooch's Country Club is closed and you actually have to WORK for your money? I work in a physically and emotionally demanding job every day. The difference is that there are millions of people just like me making small dollars to do the same thing that the small number of NFL players do to make millions of dollars. Please excuse me while I vomit my Kraft Dinner.

GO MARINELLI GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Riding the fence on this one... don't want someone blowing out a knee this early cause the coach wants to make a statement.... then again good work habits start early.

Some guy probably puked his nachos, we don't want linemen falling dead do we? Marinate didn't know the rules that's why we were penalized 2 days.

Typical Lions players attitude.:frusty: :frusty:

These pansies have to get off their asses and play, stop whining.

After researching the real storylines and not the hacks who make crap up, looks like it was Union Reps that actually filed the paperwork and it was for the rule infraction on the CBA dealing with no contact.

I don't think we have whiny babies here, just safety concerns and a line being drawn for guidelines perimeters.

After researching the real storylines and not the hacks who make crap up, looks like it was Union Reps that actually filed the paperwork and it was for the rule infraction on the CBA dealing with no contact.

I don't think we have whiny babies here, just safety concerns and a line being drawn for guidelines perimeters.

I'd like to see the "real storylines," but at any rate I would imagine at least one player complained to the union which prompted the union to file the paperwork in the first place. Regardless of who actually filed the paperwork, it was due to at least one player complaining, correct?

I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to as "made up crap"? If you have more information, please share it.

ALLEN PARK -- RoarReport.com's Mike Fowler has learned that the Detroit Lions penalty (losing two OTA session -- essentially a two-day paid vacation for the veterans) -- was because Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz called the players back onto the field during the team's mini-camp two weekends ago after he was unhappy with a session. Once players are in the locker room, they cannot be subject to another practice, thus violating the CBA.

As for Martz leaving during the week: Contrary to reports, Martz had permission from the Lions to leave because he is in the process of purchasing a home. Martz did leave the facility unhappy, but it was because he had just been informed of the "slap on the wrist" that was handed down by the league.
http://mb14.scout.com/flionsfansfrm1.showMessage?topicID=75942.topic

This also contadicts Kowalski's report on Martz' supposed "fit" he threw "stomping out" of the facility.

Story by Kowalski:
Analysis: Martz throws first fit, but Marinelli still wields control

Thursday, May 04, 2006
By Tom Kowalski
ALLEN PARK - Rod Marinelli was prepared for this.

Marinelli, the Detroit Lions head coach, wasn't bothered when offensive coordinator Mike Martz got upset and walked out of the team's facility Tuesday afternoon.

According to several sources close to the situation, Martz was irritated by something - no one contacted for this story is exactly sure what that was - but Martz was angry. There wasn't a lot of drama or angst, Martz just decided to leave. He was back at his desk Wednesday morning and everything is fine. For now.

Welcome to Rod Marinelli's world.

When Marinelli interviewed Martz for the job back in January, it took Marinelli more than a week to make his decision to hire him because Marinelli had a lot of things to think about. On the plus side, he was getting one of the brightest offensive minds in the NFL. Since Martz was hired, nearly every person in the Lions organization has used the word "genius" in describing him. His knowledge of offensive football is unmatched - at least by anyone employed by the Lions in the last several decades.

However, there's also the negative side. Martz can be overbearing, rude, unpredictable, selfish, pushy and extremely volatile. It was the "genius" part that won over Marinelli. That, and his refusal to accept anything less than 100 percent in terms of technique, execution and hustle.

Martz won a Super Bowl as the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams and he went back to one as the team's head coach. He's very set in his ways and has an unyielding belief in his way of doing things. But that doesn't always mesh with what Marinelli believes and here's where the problems begin to boil.

Marinelli made it clear to Martz from the beginning that there would only be one voice in the Lions organization and it would belong to Marinelli. Still, Marinelli knew that he would have some power struggles with Martz in how to operate the offense, not so much in terms of the playbook and the installation, but in how it would be done. Marinelli is a stickler for beginning with the basics and building a foundation and moving slowly forward. Martz wants touchdowns and he wants them right now.

From the day he was hired, Marinelli's approach has been one of intensity, but with patience, too. The only promise he makes is that the Detroit Lions will be a better team, more fundamentally sound, smarter and better conditioned. Martz, on the other hand, walks through the halls of the practice facility and -- this is true - says things like "Touchdown, Lions. Touchdown, Lions" and "Line 'em up and let's go for two (points)."

Martz has no patience and zero tolerance. If he's not happy, then everybody around him is not happy.

Speaking of unpredictable, here's the part of Martz that Marinelli really likes. During the recent voluntary minicamp, the offensive players were attending an early evening meeting when a suddenly irate Martz demanded that they go back on the field. Upset with the team's seven-on-seven passing drill earlier in the day, Martz wanted all of his players to go through the plays again.

The players thought their day was winding down, but Martz made them suit up again and hit the practice field. That part of Martz didn't bother Marinelli, either.

As the season approaches, though, there are going to be more clashes between Marinelli and Martz, but Marinelli is convinced that the unorthodox Martz has his heart and motives in the right place - he just wants to score and to win … and then score some more.

It takes a mentally tough head coach to put up with a personality like that and Marinelli isn't intimidated by the task. In fact, as long as that offense puts up points, he'll embrace it.

There are some reporters that report objectively (O'hara, Cotsonika) and there are columnists disguised as reporters--Kowalski and Parker.

Parker is a jerk. The guy is anti homer. He hates on the Lions and everything they do.

I don't mind O'Hara, but I find that he's very bland and doesn't really write anything of substance.

This is one of the main reasons the Lions have stunk so bad. Another slap in the face of lions fans. How dare an athlete getting paid millions of dollars to play a game, complain about having to practice to hard. While fans are slaving away at their jobs hoping to have enough money left after the food and bills to afford to go to a game(which they will more then likely lose) Another sad day in Lions worl, but I am thankful for a coaching staff that seems to be holding these guys to some type of standard.

I haven`t chimed in on any Lions talk but after hearing this I can`t keep silent. I was born in Detroit, I remember the Billy Sims, Eric Hipple, Scott Mitchell, eras very well.

I remember back in the early 80`s when HOME GAMES WERE BLACKED OUT because they didn`t sell out. Btw, does that still happen?

I remember when the Loions actually made it to the NFC Title game back in 91 against the Redskins. Living here in DC I actually believed the Lions had a chance, well the Redskins scalped that a&$, like 41-3 or seomething like that.

This is the kicker, I remember the Detroit City Council tried to make the Lions change their name to the Pontiac Lions becasue of the embarassment they caused the city!!!

Now this. I don`t know what the football gods have against this team, but can somebody please reverse the curse. Maybe this new coaching staff has sensed something amongst the players on the roster and will rid the team of players who don`t want to earn their paycheck.

I dont follow the Lions close enough to know exactly what`s going on but this issue doesn`t help their image at all.

Some people say Barry Sanders was a traitor for walking away from football like he did. Maybe so, however, I say to this day, only the Detroit Lions can make one of the best players in the game take his ball, go home and say.......I quit.

all i know if they thought they got booed b4, wait'll they get a load of me!:eyebrows: Oooop...ooop...hehehehehhhh!

At least we have one player that knows the rules. Fight the power.
Freakin' Martz going caveman. Well I understand why. That O stinks.

How about that? More negative publicity and controversy going on with the team? Does it really surprise anybody? The more things change, the more they stay the same.

It just goes to show why the Lions have had the worst record (and along with it the worst organization) in Millen's tenure. It's not coincidental folks. As long as Millen remains as the head honcho this sort of stuff will keep rearing its ugly head, year-in year-out.

Get the man out of here and get someone in here that knows how to run a team once and for all. The incompetence has got to stop.

But something tells me that that won't truly happen until we get the real problem out of here first. The Fords. :doh:

Good to see you feeling better Zo:}

Thanks TFD.

It's amazing what a little R&R will do for the body when one is actually forced to take a self imposed hiatus. ;)

How about that? More negative publicity and controversy going on with the team? Does it really surprise anybody? The more things change, the more they stay the same.

It just goes to show why the Lions have had the worst record (and along with it the worst organization) in Millen's tenure. It's not coincidental folks. As long as Millen remains as the head honcho this sort of stuff will keep rearing its ugly head, year-in year-out.

Get the man out of here and get someone in here that knows how to run a team once and for all. The incompetence has got to stop.

But something tells me that that won't truly happen until we get the real problem out of here first. The Fords. :doh:

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this particular example Zo. I like the fact that the coaching staff is practicing what they preach.

Rather than saying he's going to play the bench in the pregame presser and then seeing a bunch of DNP - Coach's Decision afterwards. :frusty:
:focus:

Although it really pisses me off that the grievence was filed in the first place - that this team full of losers would dare to complain - the message it sends is that Lightning Rod and company have torn down Club Mooch and putting up a Fortress in its place!

Oh I agree with you completely, JT.

With the kind of record and half a** effort game-in game-out that this bunch of slappies (players) has managed to accomplish over the past five years it's about time that someone comes in holds them accountable. So I think it's hilarious that they would have the audacity, hell, even the gonads, especially in this town, to actually come out and complain about putting in some extra work. It's beyond laughable, at best.

I think it simply proves that this collection of players are nothing more than lazy, non-motivated jokes, whether they're legitimately concerned about injuries or not, and that we're in store for a season just like every other one that we've been enduring for far too long around these parts now. :frusty:

Games can still be blacked out to our DC poster----Raiders have that all the time.

Same thing happened last year with the Giants---I don't think that much of this story. Good thing is that the team more as a whole is more bummed that the practices got canceled, because they were looking forward to it.
And we know how the Giants have turned out.

Games can still be blacked out to our DC poster----Raiders have that all the time.



I am aware they can still be blacked out. My question is; does it still happen in Detroit with Lions games?

Well I guess the cowardly Lion is still among us. I figuired on the first day Rod would have called out anyone that did not want to work hard and told them to pack their stuff and leave. I guess that did not happen. This team is a cancer.:frusty:

Well I guess the cowardly Lion is still among us. I figuired on the first day Rod would have called out anyone that did not want to work hard and told them to pack their stuff and leave. I guess that did not happen. This team is a cancer.:frusty:

Give it time Winless. It takes time to weed out the bad apples. Its hard to make those types of decisions after only a few mini camps. The players aren't even in pads yet.

I think Marinelli, Martz and Henderson are the PERFECT fit for this team.