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Hotsauce
07-09-2006, 09:05 PM
This is the place to put 'em.

According to Ken Rosenthal, the Tigers are interested in Alfonso Soriano.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5770502

Aubrey Huff continues to be a trade option.
http://www.mlive.com/tigers/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1144251610180810.xml&coll=1 (scroll down)


This article answers a lot as well:
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060706/SPORTS08/607060330/1129

bezeach
07-09-2006, 09:17 PM
according to truth and rumors website, the tigers are interested in Burntiz-a left handed hitter. The site states:

The Tigers, looking for a lefthanded hitter, may go for former Met Jeromy Burnitz (http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/ny-spflash114777781jun11,0,7093085,print.column?coll= ny-sports-columnists), who's usually traded about this time each year.

cwolfson
07-09-2006, 11:03 PM
You could trade a top prospect or two for Soriano, even if he is just a rental, since, as a Type A free agent, if he goes elsewhere you're going to get a top pick or two in the upcoming draft as compensation. Adding Soriano to the Tigers lineup?! Yeow.

bezeach
07-10-2006, 12:04 AM
Soriano in the Tigers lineup would be a force which would go along with our outstanding starting pitching. The tigers have plenty of minor league prospects that they could give away.
Soriano is going to be in the all-star game. maybe in the home run derby? He can play outfield and 2nd base which will help out to in case anyone gets hurt at 2nd (Palanco)

bezeach
07-10-2006, 11:11 AM
Here is a article that lays out what the tigers need to do in order to go far in the playoffs...
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060710/SPORTS08/607100388

The tigers need to go get Bobby Abreau, he leads the league in on base percentage which the tigers are 9th in the league in. The article sums it up...

Hotsauce
07-10-2006, 12:25 PM
Here is a article that lays out what the tigers need to do in order to go far in the playoffs...
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060710/SPORTS08/607100388

The tigers need to go get Bobby Abreau, he leads the league in on base percentage which the tigers are 9th in the league in. The article sums it up...

I agree, at first I thought, "ehh, he might be too old" but i really didnt know how old he was, at the time i was thinking around like 36, but he's only 32 years old, and brings the left handed power that the tigers need. It would take a lot of pressure off the other hitters.

Go get 'em DD.:fingerscr

ggazoo69
07-10-2006, 12:28 PM
The Tigers need to make a move fo sho. The current lineup is going to overtake the White Sox. Our pitching is great. Need more offense still.

Hotsauce
07-10-2006, 01:59 PM
:rant: According to Leyland, the Tigers are not interested in Abreu :frusty:

http://info.detnews.com/tigersblog/index.cfm (scroll)


Lets hope this is not true :pray:

bezeach
07-10-2006, 02:07 PM
The Red Sox and Angels are interested in Abreau too. Abreau is going to be in the homerun derby tonight (which will be fun to watch) since he set the record last year at Comerica with the most homeruns in a single round.
Who do you think is going to win the derby? I'm going with Thome..

ggazoo69
07-10-2006, 02:10 PM
My earlier post should have said that the current Tigers lineup IS NOT going to overtake the White Sox. They need a left-handed bat. Dombrowski must do something.

cwolfson
07-10-2006, 08:34 PM
Lynn Henning of the DetNews has been pushing the Abreu thing for weeks. Jim Leyland said specifically that the Tigers would NOT be getting Abreu, but Lynn has continued to push the idea.

A L bat for the sake of the fact that it's L is no big deal. If you can get a top notch middle order type bat, that's another matter, and if you can, whether it's L or R is secondary. If the guy can play 1st or LF great ... that means amongst LF Monroe, 1B Shelton, DH Thames, whichever is scuffling at the plate at the time can sit while this theoretical player fills in in LF, at 1B or DH. Of course, a healthy, happy Dmitri Young can do that, so forget about Aubrey Huff, Jeromy Burnitz and guys like that. If you can't get an Abreu or Soriano quality guy, why mess with success?

bezeach
07-10-2006, 10:43 PM
Dimitri is never happy, I just read somewhere that he attacked his wife a couple weeks ago. Somebody should send him to anger management. Has he played a single game all season?
I can't believe Kenny Rogers gets to start at pitcher in the all-star game! Magglio and Pudge also get to go to the all-star game. Hopefully one of them gets the MVP:)

bezeach
07-12-2006, 02:39 PM
Astros deal two minor-leaguers for Huff. Their goes another guy the tigers had interest in...

bezeach
07-12-2006, 03:27 PM
why did that show up so big?

bezeach
07-15-2006, 02:20 PM
"The most intriguing aspect of the deal between the Reds and Nationals was that it sent Austin Kearns to Washington -- a team that already possesses a surplus of outfielders. That might enable aggressive Washington general manager Jim Bowden to deal another outfielder -- perhaps Alfonso Soriano, a player in whom the Tigers have expressed mild interest". -- Detroit Free Press

Hopefully this is true :fingerscr

Darth Tater
07-17-2006, 08:22 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Aq_KLhU51HYH_9eh417ISgg5nYcB?slug=ys-mlbrumors&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

bezeach
07-17-2006, 09:38 PM
Detroit Free Press article: :nod:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060717/SPORTS19/60717010

Hotsauce
07-18-2006, 01:17 PM
hmm, a "little birdie".....:ohwell:


http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/columnists/charley_walters/15048544.htm

bezeach
07-18-2006, 04:09 PM
Tigers may have offered Nationals offer for Soriano:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/SPORTS0104/607180400

Darth Tater
07-19-2006, 01:58 AM
Lemme see now...offer the Nationals two pitching prospects so we can get Soriano and go deeper in the playoffs?

Didn't we do something like this about 20 years ago? 1987. We acquired Doyle Aleexander to help us make the playoffs (we lost in the first round and he was about done after that), and we gave up...JOHN SMOLTZ!

:frusty: I guess it depends how much potential those prospects have.

cwolfson
07-19-2006, 06:37 AM
Soriano, unlike Alexander, is still in his prime. Of course, he may just be a rental, but if he is, the Tigers end up with draft choice compensation for a Type A free agent.

Freep's Parker says the Phillies would trade Abreu to the Tigers for Miner and Thames? Hmmmm ....

1. You'd be counting on Maroth stepping back into the rotation to replace Miner. Though my impression has been that Miner, while a reasonable pitcher, has been doing it with mirrors, and reality finally caught up with him in his last start with KC. If the Phils would take Miner, rather than Humberto Sanchez, for example, that would be a gift.

2. Thames I'd hate to see go. But he isn't exactly a youngster, he's 29 (Abreu is 32). Suppose Abreu came to the Tigers ... he'd play RF, Ordonez shifting to LF (I think), with Dmitri DH vs RHS, Monroe vs LHS.

Suddenly the lineup has a lot more balance and the bench has more depth. It could work. But I can't believe the Tigers would do such a deal unless the Phils also chipped in some substantial cash, since Abreu most likely would want his option for 2008 picked up to agree to the deal.

bezeach
07-19-2006, 01:32 PM
From the Detroit Free Press:

The Detroit Free Press reported Wednesday that the Washington Nationals asked for minor league pitchers Humberto Sanchez and Jair Juujens, as well as Maybin, in exchange for prized outfielder Alfonso Soriano. But the Free Press reported that Tigers officials refused to include Maybin in the trade.


Jim Leyland's after game reaction when Abreu's name came up:

But right now, if somebody asked me that question, I would say that you (meaning the reporter who asked the question) would have a better chance of managing the Tigers next week than we would of getting Abreu.

In the end, one of these two players will be in a tigers uniform...

ggazoo69
07-19-2006, 03:00 PM
From the Detroit Free Press:

The Detroit Free Press reported Wednesday that the Washington Nationals asked for minor league pitchers Humberto Sanchez and Jair Juujens, as well as Maybin, in exchange for prized outfielder Alfonso Soriano. But the Free Press reported that Tigers officials refused to include Maybin in the trade.


Jim Leyland's after game reaction when Abreu's name came up:

But right now, if somebody asked me that question, I would say that you (meaning the reporter who asked the question) would have a better chance of managing the Tigers next week than we would of getting Abreu.

In the end, one of these two players will be in a tigers uniform...


Hope you're right. They need to do something. The offense has been lacking a little -- especially in big games against big teams. Sure, we beat up on the Kansas Cities of the world, but they won't be in the postseason.

bezeach
07-20-2006, 01:23 PM
Ozzie Guillen reports to the press about the Tigers and if they make any trades:

Link: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/...y?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-0607200261jul20,1,3848233.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true)

I seriously hope we sweep the white sox in the playoffs so Ozzie isn't the talk about baseball anymore..

bezeach
07-20-2006, 05:14 PM
If the Yankees end up with Bobby Abreu, the Tigers might take a shot at Shawn Green. You also never know if San Diego -- which has some commotion in its front office -- might be in a mood in 10 days to deal Brian Giles. -- Detroit News

jammertime
07-20-2006, 07:32 PM
How about Shea Hillenbrand? You can have him dirt cheap, since the Jays designated him for assignment and now only have 9 days to get anything for him in return before he becomes a FA. :frusty:

roscoe36
07-20-2006, 07:36 PM
Vernon Wells might be on the block as well. The Blue Jays are imploding and the GM JP Riccardi has been very critical of Hillenbrand and Wells.

jammertime
07-20-2006, 07:37 PM
If JP trades Wells, I may be forced to become a Tigers fan in protest.

ggazoo69
07-20-2006, 08:17 PM
Tigers might not do anything with Dmitri likely back. If he can come through, which I doubt, do they still need someone. I'd love to have Hillenbrand.

bezeach
07-20-2006, 10:35 PM
Dimitri young is in rehab now for drinking and depression. A pretty bad mix! Here's an article about him and the latest news on him (Scroll down and there are funny scripts about him and the Detroit World of news! :laugh:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/SPORTS21/607180380

EX) ESPN.com's D.J. Gallo points out one possible threat to the Tigers' good start: the effects of secondhand smoke from Jim Leyland.

cwolfson
07-20-2006, 11:54 PM
Bezeach, you can't be much of a Tigers fan. Young has been out of drug rehab for some time and has been working his way through the Tigers minor league system on injury rehab assignment for weeks. He's been tearing it up at Toledo and is likely to be called up imminently. The only question is who will be sent down to make room for him, Alexis Gomez or Ramon Santiago (unless Craig Monroe's hamstring injury today is so bad that he needs to go on the DL).

bezeach
07-21-2006, 12:07 AM
Just read what was on the article-said July 18, 2006

ggazoo69
07-21-2006, 10:40 AM
The only question is who will be sent down to make room for him, Alexis Gomez or Ramon Santiago (unless Craig Monroe's hamstring injury today is so bad that he needs to go on the DL).

Or a pitcher could be sent down. Neither Ledezma or Colon gets much work at all. When Maroth gets back, what do you with Miner? Does he pitch long relief with Grilli? Personally, I'd package Miner in a trade deal while his value is up. Or I'd package Maroth. I don't like having three lefties in the Top 5. Must hitters are right-handed.

bezeach
07-21-2006, 11:59 PM
Article about tigers and the trade deadline

Link: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060721/SPORTS02/607210423

Darth Tater
07-22-2006, 12:13 AM
I wouldn't do this.

Why trade so much for a guy (Soriano) who will probably leave in a couple of months? They are doing fine. I don't think they should give up their young pitchers. I think the potential risk outweighs the probability of this working out right.

bezeach
07-22-2006, 12:44 PM
I agree, especially now that Dmitri is back and now that the sox are slumping (lost to Texas 10-3)

ggazoo69
07-22-2006, 02:51 PM
I wouldn't do this.

Why trade so much for a guy (Soriano) who will probably leave in a couple of months? They are doing fine. I don't think they should give up their young pitchers. I think the potential risk outweighs the probability of this working out right.

Agreed. If anything, get Abreau, although he's a little overpriced for sure.

Winless Wonders
07-22-2006, 05:32 PM
I would make the Soriano deal if he agreed to sign a long term contract before the trade. The guy is a 40/40 guy. The Tigers strike out too much and don't steal that many bases. You know that the Sox's, Yankees, Twins are going to be making moves. As long as you don't give up your 2 stud prospects Sanchez and Maybin why not make the deal. We have so many young pitchers in the pipeline they can't all get called up and paly on the roster. It is great to have the option of dealing a prospect or two after not having a good farm system at all. Also you have to remember that they are just that prospects!!! You don't know what these guy's will do once they get called up. Some are studs and some are duds. Thats why they pay GM's the big bucks to make those calls.

ggazoo69
07-23-2006, 11:40 AM
I would make the Soriano deal if he agreed to sign a long term contract before the trade. The guy is a 40/40 guy. The Tigers strike out too much and don't steal that many bases. You know that the Sox's, Yankees, Twins are going to be making moves. As long as you don't give up your 2 stud prospects Sanchez and Maybin why not make the deal.

Well, then they don't make this deal because that's who the Nats want. Also, I think there's little doubt Soriano would agree to a long-term deal. Seems like that guy would want to test free agency. Also, I've heard he's not the greatest locker-room guy.

I think they need a left-handed bat. I think they should have gotten Hillenbrand and started him at first and let Shelton DH once in a while. Shelton is a mystery to me. He's got some bad habits, like swinging at high pitches.

Winless Wonders
07-23-2006, 03:26 PM
Well, then they don't make this deal because that's who the Nats want. Also, I think there's little doubt Soriano would agree to a long-term deal. Seems like that guy would want to test free agency. Also, I've heard he's not the greatest locker-room guy.

I think they need a left-handed bat. I think they should have gotten Hillenbrand and started him at first and let Shelton DH once in a while. Shelton is a mystery to me. He's got some bad habits, like swinging at high pitches.

I heard that the Nationals wanted Miner. Or maybe that was the other rumor I heard that somebody wanted a minor league prospect, Miner and Monroe for Cabrera.. sp????

I agree about Shelton. He just goes up there and swings away a pitches high or way outside. Then when a pitcher throws a pitch right down the middle of the plate he sits there and does not swing. I just don't get it!!!! I don't know. Maybe making the less flashy move would be better if you can get someone that could help out and it does not cost you as much.

bezeach
07-23-2006, 03:37 PM
I heard that the Nationals wanted Miner. Or maybe that was the other rumor I heard that somebody wanted a minor league prospect, Miner and Monroe for Cabrera.. sp????

I agree about Shelton. He just goes up there and swings away a pitches high or way outside. Then when a pitcher throws a pitch right down the middle of the plate he sits there and does not swing. I just don't get it!!!! I don't know. Maybe making the less flashy move would be better if you can get someone that could help out and it does not cost you as much.

They should put Dmitri Young starting over Shelton full time since all of his flaws are coming out now and all of his bad batting habits...

bezeach
07-26-2006, 04:59 PM
Not really a trade rumor but didn't know anywhere else to put it:

Detroit Tigers first base coach Andy Van Slyke slammed the managerial approach of Chicago's Ozzie Guillen describing him as a "hot headed" Latino.

Van Slyke should of said this a long time ago!!!

cwolfson
07-28-2006, 12:13 AM
Shelton is an excellent hitter and has become a decent 1B. He has looked like crap at bat most of the time for months, but guys who are in slumps always look bad. He's still young, this is really his first full season in the majors, and many a player has gone through the "sophomore slump" syndrome and been dumped prematurely by teams that lacked patience. That doesn't mean it might not make sense for Dmitri Young to put in a fair bit of time at 1B.

Meanwhile, everyone's darling, Marcus Thames, who carried the team for weeks (as Shelton did in April) has been in a long 0-fer slump and suddenly looks pretty bad up there too. While Craig Monroe and Brandon Inge, who had fans pulling their hair out in frustration at their futility for weeks, now are two of the team's hottest hitters.

You've got to maintain some perspective.

bezeach
07-28-2006, 01:36 PM
Carlos Lee is gone:

The Rangers have acquired outfielder Carlos Lee and Minor League outfielder Nelson Cruz from the Milwaukee Brewers for pitcher Francisco Cordero, outfielders Kevin Mench and Laynce Nix and Minor League pitcher Julian Cordero.

bezeach
07-31-2006, 11:39 AM
NEW NEWS: TIGERS TRADE!

The Pittsburgh Pirates today announced they have acquired minor league right-handed pitcher Brian Rogers from the Detroit Tigers in exchange for first baseman Sean Casey. The announcement was made by Dave Littlefield, the Pirates' Senior Vice President and General Manager. No other terms of the deal were announced.

I was looking up the tigers and it this was just updated on their site!

To make room for Casey, Detroit optioned the contract of first baseman Chris Shelton to Triple-A Toledo.

GOOD! He's been struggling!
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lazyberbs
07-31-2006, 05:50 PM
The Tigers got a real steal in Casey. He will fit right in and will do more than just hit in the clutch and play great first base. He does many little things and is great in the clubhouse.

He is a lifetime 300+ hitter, I believe, and he has power, as well.

They took on some salary but will get a lot in return for it.

Warthog
07-31-2006, 06:00 PM
he's not really a power hitter - more a contact hitter like polanco. but we don't need more power in the lineup. great trade - didn't give up much, got a lot in return. he's also an excellent fielder at 1st.

detteam
07-31-2006, 06:18 PM
Amazing how Shelton was the talk of the league a couple months ago. Baseball's a tough game to stay consistent in.