would you trade I verson for Shaq if you were stacked at the guard position but only had Sheed and Bogut at the center??

would you trade I verson for Shaq if you were stacked at the guard position but only had Sheed and Bogut at the center??

As a fantasy player I really don't like Shaq. He increasingly plays less games during the season due to injuries. This year he is surrounded by alot more talent, so that means less shots...and you already know the deal as it pertains to freethrows.

I wouldn't do it. Depending on how deep your league is you might want to target a Brad Miller (people always seem to sleep on him) or Ilgauskaus coupled with another person (a solid 3-4 category stat player that doesn't quite boast all-star numbers but helps you in alot of areas).

People tend to love AI, which is not a bad deal if you aren't concerned with field goal pct. at all. So you should be able to get something of relatively good worth if you wheel and deal hard enough.

I'm not only saying this because AI's my favorite player, but I would stick with Iverson because The Diesel is only sticking around for maybe 2 to 3 years, and Iverson is the toughest player along with Ben Wallace in the NBA.

the guy just made me an offer of Shaq and Antoine Walker for Iverson, I am really lacking of big people, what do you think?????

I think you should keep these in one thread. lol

I meant to.......sorry
I meant to, so

I would keep shaq. The biggest issue with shaq is that he alone can lose you the FT% category, but, he can also grab you the FG% not to mention some dimes coming out of your center slot.

For more information on how some of the players stack up against each other, i compared a variety of players in all the pertinent categories in an article at the end of last year. See the below link.

http://www.dimemag.com/feature.asp?id=1659

I would be getting Shaq and Antoine Walker for THe Answer, I wouldn't be giving up Shaq, thats my problem, if I had Shaq I would never give hime up, but to give up AI to get him....thats another story

I would keep shaq. The biggest issue with shaq is that he alone can lose you the FT% category, but, he can also grab you the FG% not to mention some dimes coming out of your center slot.

For more information on how some of the players stack up against each other, i compared a variety of players in all the pertinent categories in an article at the end of last year. See the below link.

http://www.dimemag.com/feature.asp?id=1659

What about Shaq's health? He can't help you if he doesn't play.

I meant to.......sorryI meant to, so
lmao. Walker's productivity this year is a question mark. I will tell you this though...if you get Walker and Shaq on your team say goodbye to Free throw percentage. Walker also jacks up alot of 3's unsuccessfully so I would be weary of his field goal pct. His lousy field goal pct (I think around 42%..AWFUL) will negate some of the help Shaq gives you in that area.

He played 73 games last year. Not bad. If you don't make the playoffs in your fantasy league, it doesn't matter whether or not he misses games during the last couple weeks of the season. Which brings us to the first rule of "Fantasy Club"

1. Make the Playoffs first, then worry about winning the playoffs.

By the way, I am going out of town tomorrow to visit my family in Detroit. I intend to use writing some articles for PF.com as an excuse to get out of otherwise offensive family obligations. Looking forward to sharing the next few rules of Fantasy Club with you.

He played 73 games last year. Not bad. If you don't make the playoffs in your fantasy league, it doesn't matter whether or not he misses games during the last couple weeks of the season. Which brings us to the first rule of "Fantasy Club"

1. Make the Playoffs first, then worry about winning the playoffs.

By the way, I am going out of town tomorrow to visit my family in Detroit. I intend to use writing some articles for PF.com as an excuse to get out of otherwise offensive family obligations. Looking forward to sharing the next few rules of Fantasy Club with you.

Your absolutely right 73 games isn't that bad. I agree with your synopsis. I look forward to reading your article.

well actually two, would you give up Iverson for either Dirk or Duncan?????? again especially since I am short of big men

also would you give up Manu and Antonio Daniels to get Brad Miller???????

Duncan Games Played -

2002 - 81
2003 - 69
2004 - 66

Notice a trend. In my experience there is nothing more frustrating than picking up a player and losing them throughout the season consistently. I have the same problems with players like Webber, B. Knight, and Baron Davis. They are amazing when they are in the game, but they kill you just as badly with their unreliablilty. I you are playing in a deep league this could be suicide.

From a fantasy value standpoint, I think Iverson for Duncan is a pretty even swap. Just realize that Duncan will more than likely give you a huge drop in free throw percentage. He's goes to the line often and misses. On the other hand, you can look forward to your field goal percentage taking a huge hike with the loss of Iverson and the acquistion of Timmy.

Antonio and Manu for Brad Miller? I would pull the trigger on that one immediately. Brad Miller is an awesome fantasy player for his position, Antonio has little value, and Ginobili is easliy replaced.

Dude, you seriously need to stop making new threads for each one of your transaction ideas. Please just carry on in the same one. I'm merging all of your threads now.

Zoso just beat me to it. You gotta watch out for Zoso. He's the fastest moderator in the West.

trade Nash to get Brad Miller and Boozer when you need big men and already have Iverson and Billups at point??

Yes I would make the trade.

Once again, please stop starting new threads for this stuff. Just put it under one of your old basketball fantasy threads. It will shoot to the top just like this one did and people will read it if they are interested. It will also let them know if it is a topic they are not interested in reading if you put it under the old thread because they will recognize the heading. You are just making extra work for the staff and it makes things messy. It's not really my place to tell you this stuff, but those guys work hard and don't need the extra work. I've mentioned this to you before and I know Micro has also. So please be considerate.

excuse me!!!!! I don't really think there is a need for your attitude! since when does asking about trading Nash for Miller and Boozer have anything to do with trading Iverson for Shaq? IT DOESN"T, so why would I put that question in this thread, so I can get one response which came from you, because no one else now has a clue that I even asked this question.
Man I'm taking up alot of room in this forum, there is a whopping ten threads, got to be really close to exceeding the bandwidth now.
Why don't you get off your high-horse and quit doing the moderators work, and if the moderators want to do something about it-then let them, but to make me feel like some kind of inconsiderate a-hole because I started a new thread because I didn't think my question fit in a topic that was over a week old, I'm sorry, I guess I should be banned.

exc

what time is it



ROSCOE TIME

Dude, you seriously need to stop making new threads for each one of your transaction ideas. Please just carry on in the same one. I'm merging all of your threads now.

Actually Darth Tater is correct. I think you are missing the point, my friend. You actually were asked previously to keep all of your transaction ideas in one thread since you obviously have alot of questions. I've enjoyed giving you feedback but it would probably be alot better from an admin standpoint if you kept these consolidated. If everyone created a Dirk for Miller type thread every time they had an idea it could get pretty messy.

excuse me!!!!! I don't really think there is a need for your attitude! since when does asking about trading Nash for Miller and Boozer have anything to do with trading Iverson for Shaq? IT DOESN"T, so why would I put that question in this thread, so I can get one response which came from you, because no one else now has a clue that I even asked this question.
Man I'm taking up alot of room in this forum, there is a whopping ten threads, got to be really close to exceeding the bandwidth now.
Why don't you get off your high-horse and quit doing the moderators work, and if the moderators want to do something about it-then let them, but to make me feel like some kind of inconsiderate a-hole because I started a new thread because I didn't think my question fit in a topic that was over a week old, I'm sorry, I guess I should be banned.
exc

I really cannot take responsibility for how you choose to feel. However, I will tell you that I meant no offense and was merely pointing out something to you that had been politely asked of you more than once prior to my post. You apologized and then did it again. Please don't take it personally.

@Dirk D - If you can add to your existing thread, everyone who replied before will likely reply again and the thread will go "hot" drawing even more interest. Don't worry too much about the actual trade details and please don't take any comments too personally. We are all friends here.

@everyone else - please use the report post icon http://www.pistonsforum.com/images/images_pb/buttons/report.gif to let a moderator know about an issue or take it to PM with the member.

I truly appreciate that everyone is looking out for the forum, it is a tremendous help but please try to keep issues off of the board whenever possible. Less chance anyone will take offense or that the thread will get hijacked with arguments.

cool, and I am sorry if I'm coming off like a whiner, I'm just in a bad mood. I know it doesn't seem like a big deal, but I had to put my cat down yesterday after it being really sick, I've had it for as long as I could remember, so again sorry for being edgy, I wasn't even thinking about the whole "merging threads" concept. Is there a way you could change the topic of the thread to "Possible fantasy trades", that way it doesn't seem like its just about Iverson for Shaq

Could you please hit up a moderator by Private Message to do that name change? Some of them need practice as Zoso and basketbills are the only really active ones.

I'd do it but it's slow going today and I'm falling farther behind.

Sorry to hear about your cat. Hope things are cool in Chatham.

I'm offering an apology to all of those who I may have taken digs at this morning, that is usually uncharacteristic of me. I rarely get offended, but for some reason this time I did even though what they are trying to tell me is right, I just didn't appreciate the way I was being told. However I think it is childish to let arguements continue on. I've had a rough last couple of days and was a little edgy, so again I am sorry for any outbursts.

I'm offering an apology to all of those who I may have taken digs at this morning, that is usually uncharacteristic of me. I rarely get offended, but for some reason this time I did even though what they are trying to tell me is right, I just didn't appreciate the way I was being told. However I think it is childish to let arguements continue on. I've had a rough last couple of days and was a little edgy, so again I am sorry for any outbursts.

all is well. sorry about your pet. thank God you have the Pistons upcoming season to get your mind off things. keep ya head up. :)

I'm offering an apology to all of those who I may have taken digs at this morning, that is usually uncharacteristic of me. I rarely get offended, but for some reason this time I did even though what they are trying to tell me is right, I just didn't appreciate the way I was being told. However I think it is childish to let arguements continue on. I've had a rough last couple of days and was a little edgy, so again I am sorry for any outbursts.

No harm no foul :)

I am trying to get rid of one of my Pistons and I feel that Rip is the most expendable, however I am having a hard time finding someone of equal value, I am looking at getting a guard back whether it be a SG or PG, do you have anyone you could think of who would be a fair trade

I am trying to get rid of one of my Pistons and I feel that Rip is the most expendable, however I am having a hard time finding someone of equal value, I am looking at getting a guard back whether it be a SG or PG, do you have anyone you could think of who would be a fair trade

The question would be what type of guard are you looking for? One who is a defensive powerhouse or offensively gifted. What categories are you trying to build on? Is this Yahoo?

Outside of that, Rip's production this year is officially going to be a question mark as he seems to be the odd man out offensively. My thought is that if you are going to trade Rip, you need to do it quickly before anyone else in your league catches on.

I'm looking for someone who can help me with assists and three's, yeah it is Yahoo

I have been trying to trade for Tay. I used Parker as bait and got denied tried Parker and Fisher for Tay and got denied was thinking I should try to maybe use Q-Rich as the last measure to try and pry him away. The only reason I would do this is just because he will be under Brown who might not just let him fire the 3 up as much. I was to lazy to do the research on how many 3s Brown let Miller jack up back in the day so you can yell at me for being stupid but really its just laziness, that and I need to go to bed before work.

I know it sounds silly but Tay is a good fantasy player. He gets anywhere between 14 and 20 points 4-8 rebounds a few asssists and a couple blocks a night plus he can knock down his free throws and a few 3s so he is well rounded.

Should I just back off and let the guy keep Tay or should I try Parker and Q-Rich to get him??? Overkill or what???

I'm looking for someone who can help me with assists and three's, yeah it is Yahoo

hmm...

then, I would probably suggest going after a Damon Stoudamire or Kirk Hinrich type player if field goal pct. is not a concern for your ballclub. Hinrich would be my preferred choice. Luke Ridnour packaged with another player may be an option as well. I expect Ridnour to be a sleeper pick this year.

to answer your question, I personally think that is too much to give up, but it also depends, who else do you have at Parkers and Q's position, if you can afford to lose them and need a SF then maybe you might have to overspend


on to my question, I want to pick up a free agent C/F, I'm thinking Alonzo Mourning(because of his blocks and boards) I know he doesn't get big minutes, but is he worth giving up either Antonio Daniels or Josh Childress? or would a Nene be a better pick up?

to answer your question, I personally think that is too much to give up, but it also depends, who else do you have at Parkers and Q's position, if you can afford to lose them and need a SF then maybe you might have to overspend

Created a long post but it got lost because it took me too long to write. The summary is that I agree with Dirk. Just be aware what you are losing. Parker was 13th in the league in total assists last year. He has shown tremendous improvement year by year raising his PPG and FG pct.

Q will be about half the player he was fantasy stat wise in Phoenix. Under Brown's system, the days of 200+ 3 pointers are over. Look for him to achieve half of the mark this year.

Too much, but hey if you can afford..go for it! Tay is set for a breakout season!

on to my question, I want to pick up a free agent C/F, I'm thinking Alonzo Mourning(because of his blocks and boards) I know he doesn't get big minutes, but is he worth giving up either Antonio Daniels or Josh Childress? or would a Nene be a better pick up?

No, to Alonzo Mourning. He is just not reliable as a fantasy pick up. His health will be an issue for him for the rest of his NBA career. Be prepared to go alot of battle without Zo this season if you take it. Zo or Nene? That is an easy one for me. Nene all the way. He will get alot more minutes this year since he claims that he is healed from his injury and amped to put up his best year ever.

Would I give up Antonio Daniels for Nene? Definitely
Josh Childress for Nene? Close, but probably not. I like Josh's upside and I think that ultimately he will have a slightly better well rounded season than Nene. I give Josh a slight advantage.

Jeesh, I have alot of typos and grammatical errors in that last post. It's almost incoherent. I apologize for that. I was on my way to a meeting and decided to type something up in less than 3 minutes. You are looking at the results. :)

I hope you found my incite helpful nonetheless.

Would I give up Antonio Daniels for Nene? Definitely
Josh Childress for Nene? Close, but probably not. I like Josh's upside and I think that ultimately he will have a slightly better well rounded season than Nene. I give Josh a slight advantage.

Change my Nene thought to a hell no! Looks like Nene is still having problems with his injuries. Not worth the risk unless the league is really deep.

What does everyone think of Tyson Chandler (me) for Carmelo Anthony?

I'm not a fan of Carmelo but he is their number one scoring option. Chandler is going to benefit without Curry there though...this is a hard one.

I'm thinking of doing a counter-offer and getting Michael Redd instead? What about Chandler for Redd?

What does everyone think of Tyson Chandler (me) for Carmelo Anthony?

I'm not a fan of Carmelo but he is their number one scoring option. Chandler is going to benefit without Curry there though...this is a hard one.

I'm thinking of doing a counter-offer and getting Michael Redd instead? What about Chandler for Redd?

Out of the three players, Redd is definitely the best option. If you can get him I would jump all over that deal.

Chandler for Anthony is a little bit more challenging.

If your goal is to put alot of points on the board without any regard to poor field goal shooting and horrendous turnovers, Anthony is a good fit for you. You will also see the benefit of decent assists. In general, I have never been to impressed with Melo's fantasy value though.

On the other hand, Chandler is very serviceable at the center position should he get eligibility (which is likely). The name of the game with Chandler is field goal pct, blocks and rebounds. If this happens (center eligibility), with the absence of Amare Stoudamire due to injury, you have a top 10 center on your hands. It is also important to mention that Chandler was injury prone his first season and is coming to this years training camp overweight and out of shape...which in my opinion is the recipe for a potential injury.

So to summarize:

Redd, if you can get him
Melo, if your goal is to get another potent scorer and fg pct. and turnovers are not an issue
Chandler if you are light at the center spot or need leverage for a potential trade in the future (centers and point guards traditionally hold the highest trade value)

I was just able to get Tyson Chandler for Rip.....any comments? do you think that was a good move or a bad move, personally I needed some help with boards and blocks, but I did lose a little in scoring so we'll see

also, I'm wanting anothe back up PG, I already have Billups and Iverson, but I have A.Daniels on the bench, I'm not very fond of him. With people like Jameer Nelson, Ridnour, Boykins in free agency in my league, should I try to pick up one of them? are there any other sleepers you can think of? or should I just stay with Daniels...thanks for your help

I was just able to get Tyson Chandler for Rip.....any comments? do you think that was a good move or a bad move, personally I needed some help with boards and blocks, but I did lose a little in scoring so we'll see

Not bad.

I would say it is pretty even. The only reason why this is close though is because of the free throw pct. boost that Rip gives you. Rip goes to the line often and more importantly he makes his free throw attempts. It is not unlikely to get a 10-10 performance from Rip that single handedly puts you back into contention from the strike.

Chandler is by far the hotter commodity though based on my previous analysis.

also, I'm wanting anothe back up PG, I already have Billups and Iverson, but I have A.Daniels on the bench, I'm not very fond of him. With people like Jameer Nelson, Ridnour, Boykins in free agency in my league, should I try to pick up one of them? are there any other sleepers you can think of? or should I just stay with Daniels...thanks for your help

I think Jameer is a risk because the Magic brought in Kenyon Dooling.

I don't know how Boykins factors into the equation in Denver with the acquisition of Earl Watson.

Luke Ridnour is a sleeper pick. He will see more minutes this year and put up some strong numbers.

You might also want to look at Deron Williams from Utah. Point guards tend to do very well in Jerry Sloan's system.

Mike James, Sebastian Telfair and Shaun Livingston are also worthy of some consideration.

I made a counteroffer hopefully he'll accept: Chandler + Damon for Vince. I figure Chandler's got some REAL value now after last night's game and a trade for an injury-prone Vince is good. I already have Ben/Yao/Kristic/Dampier in this league so my rebounds should be good without Chandler there.

And Boykins will definately still be Denver's viable option over Earl Watson. Last season during the playoffs Boykins was giving opponents fits. He was unstoppable, watching him play - amazed me. I just kept relishing the idea of him in a Piston's jersey.

I made a counteroffer hopefully he'll accept: Chandler + Damon for Vince. I figure Chandler's got some REAL value now after last night's game and a trade for an injury-prone Vince is good. I already have Ben/Yao/Kristic/Dampier in this league so my rebounds should be good without Chandler there.

great deal if you can pull it off. Let me know how that goes.


And Boykins will definately still be Denver's viable option over Earl Watson. Last season during the playoffs Boykins was giving opponents fits. He was unstoppable, watching him play - amazed me. I just kept relishing the idea of him in a Piston's jersey.

Earl is defintely one of my favorite players in the league. I'm sure a Watson, Boykins press is going to give the opposing team fits (similar to another pair I know :) ). I still think that his minutes and fantasy value will take a hit with the return of Voshon and the acquisiton of Watson. I'll be watching. :)

what is so special about Shane Battier?? he is ranked 49th in my league and is still a free agent, what stats does he help with?

I'd say he's a poor mans Tayshaun Prince, maybe a block & a steal per game, 5 boards few assists, a triple or two...he's got a good all around game, but how many minutes he'll get is the question.

It looks like Memphis isnt as deep as they were last year, so his numbers might be better...

I'd say he's a poor mans Tayshaun Prince, maybe a block & a steal per game, 5 boards few assists, a triple or two...he's got a good all around game, but how many minutes he'll get is the question.

It looks like Memphis isnt as deep as they were last year, so his numbers might be better...

on the money. I completely agree with your analysis.

This is my first time doing fantasy basketball, I'm just wondering if I could get some input on my up to date roster, if there is room for improvments let me know:

At PG: Iverson, Billups, Ridnour
At SG: Ginoboli, Jim Jackson, Josh Childress
At SF: Mo Pete, Jalen Rose
At PF: Sheed, Boozer, Chandler,
At Center: Brad Miller, Bogut

I know there is always room for improvment, but if you can think of areas where I need help, let me know of some realistic moves I can make, thanks

This is my first time doing fantasy basketball, I'm just wondering if I could get some input on my up to date roster, if there is room for improvments let me know:

At PG: Iverson, Billups, Ridnour
At SG: Ginoboli, Jim Jackson, Josh Childress
At SF: Mo Pete, Jalen Rose
At PF: Sheed, Boozer, Chandler,
At Center: Brad Miller, Bogut

I know there is always room for improvment, but if you can think of areas where I need help, let me know of some realistic moves I can make, thanks

It would help greatly if you would list the categories you are trying to win with this squad. Based on a quick glance it looks like you have alot of quality players on your team. Nice job. :)

This is my first time doing fantasy basketball, I'm just wondering if I could get some input on my up to date roster, if there is room for improvments let me know:

At PG: Iverson, Billups, Ridnour
At SG: Ginoboli, Jim Jackson, Josh Childress
At SF: Mo Pete, Jalen Rose
At PF: Sheed, Boozer, Chandler,
At Center: Brad Miller, Bogut

I know there is always room for improvment, but if you can think of areas where I need help, let me know of some realistic moves I can make, thanks

Looks like you might be lacking in the blocks department, but its kinda hard to gauge without the help of their statistics right in front of ya....

This is my first time doing fantasy basketball, I'm just wondering if I could get some input on my up to date roster, if there is room for improvments let me know:

At PG: Iverson, Billups, Ridnour
At SG: Ginoboli, Jim Jackson, Josh Childress
At SF: Mo Pete, Jalen Rose
At PF: Sheed, Boozer, Chandler,
At Center: Brad Miller, Bogut

I know there is always room for improvment, but if you can think of areas where I need help, let me know of some realistic moves I can make, thanks

After taking another look at your roster, I was able to see the categories that you should excel in:

Great - Assists, Points, Rebounds, 3 pointers, and Steals
Moderate - FG%, FT%
Poor - Turnovers and Blocks

Seems like a pretty solid squad to me. If I were you, I'd try to build/focus on your great categories and see if you can improve on some of the moderate areas if possible. Poor areas, just disregard when deciding to pick up a player.

thanks for your help

thanks for your help

no prob. :)

I have Iverson on my team, I am a little concerned with his knee condition, should I hang onto him or should I try to trade him. If I should trade him who should I try to get, I want someone who will give me good points and assists, so I'm looking at some type of guard or SF (since I'm weak at SF), thanks for your help

I have Iverson on my team, I am a little concerned with his knee condition, should I hang onto him or should I try to trade him. If I should trade him who should I try to get, I want someone who will give me good points and assists, so I'm looking at some type of guard or SF (since I'm weak at SF), thanks for your help

Replacing Allen Iverson is a difficult task. Traditionally, like real life, it has always been challenging to get equal value for this talented player. Field goal pct and turnovers can be a turn off for many. From an offensive standpoint there really isn't anyone in the league that matches the points Allen gives you on a nightly basis. Ultimately you might have to pull a two for one deal to get what you need. Here is a list of players you might want to target in a trade:

Gilbert Arenas - mini AI stat-wise perhaps your best bet!
Vince Carter & ??? - satisifies scoring requirment but leaves a little bit short in assists
Steve Francis & ??? - satisfies assists requirement but needs another player to supplement scoringThe reason why I name these candidates is because they have traditionally had troublesome field goal percentages or health has been in an issue for them in the past. You might be able to get them at a good price. I expect Vince Carter to have a career season as a result of a full year with J-Kidd, while Steve Francis is perhaps underrated seeing that he was originally slated to play at the shooting guard position this season. Now that he has been named the starting PG, I expect his assists to be amongst the best in the league once again this year.

Another piece of advice.

Unless you are weary that Iverson will go on the injured list early, you might want to trade him after he has some big games under his belt early in the season. He is much more marketable after a 40 point game than during the pre-season with questions about his health abound. Sell high, buy low. That is how you make the biggest improvements on your team.

Just a couple things to think about.

Replacing Allen Iverson is a difficult task. Traditionally, like real life, it has always been challenging to get equal value for this talented player. Field goal pct and turnovers can be a turn off for many. From an offensive standpoint there really isn't anyone in the league that matches the points Allen gives you on a nightly basis. Ultimately you might have to pull a two for one deal to get what you need. Here is a list of players you might want to target in a trade:

Gilbert Arenas - mini AI stat-wise perhaps your best bet!
Vince Carter & ??? - satisifies scoring requirment but leaves a little bit short in assists
Steve Francis & ??? - satisfies assists requirement but needs another player to supplement scoringThe reason why I name these candidates is because they have traditionally had troublesome field goal percentages or health has been in an issue for them in the past. You might be able to get them at a good price. I expect Vince Carter to have a career season as a result of a full year with J-Kidd, while Steve Francis is perhaps underrated seeing that he was originally slated to play at the shooting guard position this season. Now that he has been named the starting PG, I expect his assists to be amongst the best in the league once again this year.

Another piece of advice.

Unless you are weary that Iverson will go on the injured list early, you might want to trade him after he has some big games under his belt early in the season. He is much more marketable after a 40 point game than during the pre-season with questions about his health abound. Sell high, buy low. That is how you make the biggest improvements on your team.

Just a couple things to think about.

AI's the man. He was my first pick in our PF advanced league (granted I had the 2nd to last pick).

I also have Steve Nash.... any takers?

Here's what I started with (computer generated draft)

PG-none (I thought that couldn't happen)
SG-Ray Allen, Steven Jackson
SF-LeBron, Artest, Iguodala
PF-Bosh, Okafur, Randolph, Webber, Murphy
C-Magliore, Dalembert, Krstic

(its an 8 team league so the talent is not so diluted) Obviously, I went big, and got big.

I recently made a trade of LeBron and Bosh for Wade and Arenas.

PG-Wade, Arenas
SG-Ray Allen, Steven Jackson
SF-Artest, Iguodala
PF-Okafur, Randolph, Webber, Murphy
C-Magliore, Dalembert, Krstic

Good or bad deal?

Here's what I started with (computer generated draft)

PG-none (I thought that couldn't happen)
SG-Ray Allen, Steven Jackson
SF-LeBron, Artest, Iguodala
PF-Bosh, Okafur, Randolph, Webber, Murphy
C-Magliore, Dalembert, Krstic

(its an 8 team league so the talent is not so diluted) Obviously, I went big, and got big.

I recently made a trade of LeBron and Bosh for Wade and Arenas.

PG-Wade, Arenas
SG-Ray Allen, Steven Jackson
SF-Artest, Iguodala
PF-Okafur, Randolph, Webber, Murphy
C-Magliore, Dalembert, Krstic

Good or bad deal?

I think you did pretty darn well with that deal!

JEESH! you have a squad! :thumb:

Very impressive!

Just to give yourself some more zip you might want to trade Murphy or Kristic for another Shotblocker. The combination of Okafur and Dalembert is pretty good but a third shot blocker would really make you dangerous in that category.

What are your thoughts on having rookies on a fantasy squad. I'd be real high on Chris Paul of the Hornets.

He's a gifted playmaker who can really score. He's only got to beat out Speedy Claxton for minutes.

What are your thoughts on having rookies on a fantasy squad. I'd be real high on Chris Paul of the Hornets.

He's a gifted playmaker who can really score. He's only got to beat out Speedy Claxton for minutes.

I think of all the rookies, Chris Paul appears to have the most upside fantasy-wise based on the preseason. His numbers look phenomenal. The fact that he is on a lottery team makes him a really attractive pick. Traditionally, teams in the "rebuilding mode" provide their emerging talent the opportunity to play alot of minutes to develop their game at a more accelerated pace.

A pattern that I have also seen in fantasy leagues in the past is that often rookies I either underated or overated in terms of initial ranking. They truely are a wildcard and can be the difference maker in very deep leagues. Where rookies really hold their value is during the fantasy league playoffs. At the end of the season, (which consequently is when the playoffs begin) veteran players and stars of playoff contenders are notorious for taking days off. This is the time when the rookies shine. Think Darko @ Atlanta last year.

Be on the lookout throughout the season. You never know when the next great rookie fantasy contributer might emerge.

give up Iverson and Manu to get Lebron and Iguodola?

give up Iverson and Manu to get Lebron and Iguodola?

If you can get it...I'd take it in a heartbeat. Iguodola has a tremendous upside while Lebron might be the fantasy MVP this year. I'd be all over that trade!

If you can get it...I'd take it in a heartbeat. Iguodola has a tremendous upside while Lebron might be the fantasy MVP this year. I'd be all over that trade! I agree with Motown.
I sincerely doubt that person will make that trade. He'd be nuts. He must have had a top 2 pick so obviously he wants Lebron. Most likely he could have grabbed Ginobli with his #2 pick after that also. So I'm saying that if he wanted Iverson & Ginobli over the guys he has he would have picked them.

the thing is, is that I have already offered him Iverson and Childress for Lebron and the only reason he turned it down is because he already had 2 Phili players, he didn't want 3, so in that sense this trade would be better for the dact he'll still have 2 Phili players but he'll also gain Manu

one more ?, would you drop Jim Jackson to pick up Bonzi Wells, the reason I am thinking this is because it looks like Bonzi is starting this year and Jackson is coming off the bench, also Jackson is getting older whereas Bonzi is suppose to have a better year (change of scenary) the only reason I am hesitent is because with Amare out that might mean more out of Jackson.......whats your take?

one more ?, would you drop Jim Jackson to pick up Bonzi Wells, the reason I am thinking this is because it looks like Bonzi is starting this year and Jackson is coming off the bench, also Jackson is getting older whereas Bonzi is suppose to have a better year (change of scenary) the only reason I am hesitent is because with Amare out that might mean more out of Jackson.......whats your take?

I would probably pull the trigger on that free agent pickup..as long as you are not in the need of a 3 point shooter. Wells will most likely have a better all-around season in Sacramento as James Jones seems to be taking up the offensive slack during Amare's absence in Phoenix instead of Jackson.

with Bogut getting screwed with the Magloirepick-up would you drop Bogut and pick up Nene? Nene is gonna have a career year tis year am I right????

with Bogut getting screwed with the Magloirepick-up would you drop Bogut and pick up Nene? Nene is gonna have a career year tis year am I right????

Nene is predicted to get big minutes this year but to be honest he is a crap shoot. He's been dealing with health problems the past couple of years.

If I had to choose...I would probably say that Nene is going to be more productive this year. Magloire should have a great season this year in Milwaukee and Bogut will be brought along slowly.

On another note, Paul is looking like a clear favorite for rookie of the year now.

would you rather have Marquis Daniels over Jim Jackson and Bonzi Wells. I know Im gonna lose in the 3 pointers if I give up on Jackson but Daniels just might be better than those 2 guys, what would be the downsides of getting Daniels over Wells or Jim Jackson

I'm looking to trade either Jalen Rose and Donyell Marshall or Jalen and Caron Butler for a centre, which centres could I target for either pair????

I'm looking to trade either Jalen Rose and Donyell Marshall or Jalen and Caron Butler for a centre, which centres could I target for either pair????

sorry looks like this question slipped through the cracks.

It will be difficult to get fair value for your combination of players as Centers are a rarity in most leagues escalating their value.

Your best bet might be....

Emeka Okafur - currently slumping but will definitely turn it around

Good luck to you.

what to do about Tyson Chandler???? Earlier in the year I picked up Chandler for Rip.....boy am I regreting that now, however we all know that Chandler is stinking it up, how much longer should I hold on to him, and what are some possible replacements via trade or free agency?? thanks

would you give up Caron Butler to get Okafor

would you give up Caron Butler to get Okafor

I would, but I'm not sure if Okafor is going to be back before the All-star break. I'd wait as long as you can, maybe a week or two...

would you give up Caron Butler to get Okafor

my bad. I slept on this one...

Butler for Okafur?

hmm...well...

Butler is ranked slightly ahead of Okafur for the season. Bulter appears to be more injury-reliable. In nine category leagues, Butler is superior to Okafur in 6 stats by average:FG%, FT%, 3PTS MADE, PTs, ASTs, STLs, and TOs.

Talent for Talent...I keep Butler.

If you have a dire need for a center and you can afford to wait for his return...I would probably pull the trigger as Okafur's initial stats for the season have been unpredictably inferior to his rookie campaign. Look for Okafur to rebound with strong a second half.

Keep in mind that if you do go this route you could have alot of DNPs in your future as Okafur's return has yet to be announced. Be careful. Number one rule (as my colleague JDMISER says)...make the playoffs!

hey micro,
can we split this off? its not about artest and its interesting enough if someone wanted to look at okafor/butler comparisons. :confused:

hey micro,
can we split this off? its not about artest and its interesting enough if someone wanted to look at okafor/butler comparisons. :confused:

So it is written, so shall it be done. ;)

I have jermaine o'neil in one of my fantasy leagues and he went down for 8 weeks with a groin tear. he is claiming that it is partly because he came back from pneumonia to soon. anyway should I cut him and pick up say juwan howard who is doing ok or should I go for foster who will pick up most of o'neils minutes. I have 3 other centers to pick up some of the slack so going for howard could work or should I go with foster :frusty: :frusty: arrrrrr my head hurts already

I have jermaine o'neil in one of my fantasy leagues and he went down for 8 weeks with a groin tear. he is claiming that it is partly because he came back from pneumonia to soon. anyway should I cut him and pick up say juwan howard who is doing ok or should I go for foster who will pick up most of o'neils minutes. I have 3 other centers to pick up some of the slack so going for howard could work or should I go with foster :frusty: :frusty: arrrrrr my head hurts already
Here is the thing to consider.

Will you make the playoffs? That's the most important thing right now. Waiting 8 weeks for JO (he'll probably come back sooner because if anything, he's a warrior and will play with pain) could kill you if you still have Amare as well.

I don't have anyone to trade for Amare anymore but maybe you can make a trade for someone who plays NOW (elsewhere in the league) and then keep JO while adding one of his backups to replace the weakest man on your roster.

That's the kind of move I would consider.

Don't waive guys. If my roster was just a little bit fresher, I would trade for an injured JO but right now I've got Radmanovic, Pachulia, Wells, Rahim, and Hughes (off the top of my head) all banged up or out.

Here is the thing to consider.

Will you make the playoffs? That's the most important thing right now. Waiting 8 weeks for JO (he'll probably come back sooner because if anything, he's a warrior and will play with pain) could kill you if you still have Amare as well.

I don't have anyone to trade for Amare anymore but maybe you can make a trade for someone who plays NOW (elsewhere in the league) and then keep JO while adding one of his backups to replace the weakest man on your roster.

That's the kind of move I would consider.

Don't waive guys. If my roster was just a little bit fresher, I would trade for an injured JO but right now I've got Radmanovic, Pachulia, Wells, Rahim, and Hughes (off the top of my head) all banged up or out.

great advice.

I am in a similar dillema as I have J.O on all of my fantasy teams. Win now or stack up for the playoffs? Tough call. I would say, if you think your team is strong enough w/o J.O to make the playoffs go for it! Otherwise drop him and use the spot to secure a playoff birth.

I just offered Himat RP from Portland. He has been avg about 15 PPG over the last month and a half and shooting over %50. I was going to offer Channing Frye, but then I read JO may not be ready till playoff's, and I believe league is over by then.

great advice.

I am in a similar dillema as I have J.O on all of my fantasy teams. Win now or stack up for the playoffs? Tough call. I would say, if you think your team is strong enough w/o J.O to make the playoffs go for it! Otherwise drop him and use the spot to secure a playoff birth.

I am currently in 3 leagues. Here is how I handled the J.O situation.

Black Brook League -

currently tied for 1st place, 16 owners, Head 2 Head format

Traded J.O for Ron Artest just prior to J.O's last injury and Ron Artest's trade to Sac-Town. How's that for dodging a bullet? :)

Yahoo Public League (competitive) -

currently in 1st place by 7 games, 12 owners, Head 2 Head format

Kept J.O on the squad to reserve him for playoff run. Had Emaka Okafur on injured list as well. Dropped Okafur and picked up Tyson Chandler. Chandler has responded with a double double in his last 3 games.

PistonsForum.COM (advanced) -

currently tied for the last playoff spot, 12 owners, Head 2 Head format

Dropped J.O. Picked up Melvin Ely who has just returned from injury and starting for the Bobcats in Okafur's absence. Actively looking for trades to offset loss of O'Neal. Placed Duncan on the block with the hope of grabbing two quality players.

My streak of earning a playoff appearance in every fantasy league I've played in is in jeopardy this year. It will be interesting to see if I can fight to keep my spot in the playoffs.

I got Mo Williams http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3750
but Telfair Sebastian Telfair - Boston Celtics - NBA - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3830) is available both are starters this year, I think Telfair will put up more points and assists but I think Mo will be better % wise who do I go for?

What does your team look like sausage king?

You want to strengthen your best categories. That should help you decide who fits.

here is the team
B. Gordon (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3820)
M. Redd (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3442)
R. Hamilton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3330)
L. Deng (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3824)
C. Bosh (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3707)
D. Milicic (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3705)
B. Miller (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3305)
N. Mohammed (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3272)
E. Griffin (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3517)
M. Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3750)
N. Krstic (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3622)
R. McCants (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3940)
E. Curry (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3514)
I thought about cutting curry and picking him up as a FA but because I have so many centers I figured I might get some deals thown my way

Grab Telfair and drop McCants. I am pretty sure he had knee surgery and isn't expected back this year.

sweet
What about okafor is he hurt?

sweet
What about okafor is he hurt?
nope he's back and starting to play pretty well.

I found a recent article that says McCants is scheduled to return in early 2007. But it's the same microfracture surgery that Amare had. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for him.

I think Okafor is healthy.

CHARLOTTE BOBCATS: Chat Transcript: Forward Emeka Okafor (http://www.nba.com/bobcats/news/chat_okafor_061004.html)

I usually look for this stuff (outside of sports or fantasy sites) by searching Google News with the player's name in double quotes.

"Emeka Okafor"

Google News (http://news.google.com/nwshp?ned=us)

Hope that helps...

ok now here is another question should i dump someone to pick up barbosa and who should i can?

I'm not a big Barbosa fan but if anything you want to think about cutting Eddie Griffin loose.

When he gets pt he gets a ton of blocks last year he was 10th in the league in blocks and he only played 20 min a game. so I kinda want to keep him.

Right on.

I am in 2 other fantasy leauges and there are a ton of rookies still out there examples

Stuckey
Brewer
Yi
Noah
both Wrights
Thaddeus young
Cook
Almond

My question is how many of you have had succses with adding rookies to your fantasy teams? And if so would you take some of these guys over guys like Mcdyess, Richard Jefferson, Bargnani, Jamal Crawford or Calderon?

My teams should do pretty good but if I can snag one of these rooks and have them make a impact should I jump on them now or wait ?????????????

Too many question marks...you really should look at bargs. If you want to roll with rookies, Brewer and Young could be taken ahead of Mcdyess and calderon.

I had rookie of the year Brandon Roy. He was awesome. I also had Andrea Bargnini, who wasn't bad, but he was inconsistent.

I also placed somewhere around number 8 or 9 in a 10 person league.

i had bargnani for a stretch and aldridge after the new year. point being i guess is that i'd rather someone else waste a mid-round pick on a rookie. most rookies become waiver-wire fodder at some point during the season after their owner becomes sick of them anyway.