Authorities have found the meticulously groomed corpse of Motown Pride amid the drafts of his opus: How to Utterly Destroy your friends and enemies in fantasy basketball.

"This is a sad day for advanced league Fantasy basketball," said the police spokesperson, "Motown was the veritable voice of that league."
The remaining members of advanced league issued a resounding "No Comment" regarding the death. "we like to keep to ourselves," said one GM who spoke anonimously.

"Who ever killed motown pride either wanted to take his pristine Air Force Ones OR just had no pride in motown and wanted to send a message."


Swift justice! blah blah blah!!!!

Oh yeah, clue letter A.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Not MO.:hurt:



My first buddy ever in the forum. Our expert fantasy basketball guru and commissioner. Dead.:rip:

OK, Murderer. This time you've gone to far. Killing TFD:dancingparty:and Maverick :confused: are one thing...BUT killing MO? :swear2:



Mark my words. You will pay dearly for this one.:cop:

no evidence to present here of course, so "down boys" in the lynch mob...

but it's weird isn't it that Tater was posting yesterday with a sign that he expected the murderer to strike.... coincidence? superb intuition? could be... but then... how'd you know Darth? just a feeling?

I'll wait for the more persistent sleuths in the bunch to begin to comb posts and see what they turn up before i jump on any bandwagon.....

In case you guys were wondering.

TuPac, Biggie and Elvis are not still alive.

God doesn't look like George Burns.

The Victoria Secret Models are worth the price of admission! :)

no evidence to present here of course, so "down boys" in the lynch mob...

but it's weird isn't it that Tater was posting yesterday with a sign that he expected the murderer to strike.... coincidence? superb intuition? could be... but then... how'd you know Darth? just a feeling?

I'll wait for the more persistent sleuths in the bunch to begin to comb posts and see what they turn up before i jump on any bandwagon.....
Not to tamper with the game but the murders this game are generally on schedule to be 3 days after the lynching.

no evidence to present here of course, so "down boys" in the lynch mob...

If evidence were required, it wouldn't be a lynch mob, it would be a court of law. :rolleyes: Looks like you slept through Vigilantism 101, professor.

Let the unfounded accusations begin!

but it's weird isn't it that Tater was posting yesterday with a sign that he expected the murderer to strike.... coincidence? superb intuition? could be... but then... how'd you know Darth? just a feeling?



Prof,

I honestly don't understand why people think it is so unusual that I knew there would be another killing last night:

(1) The rules state the killer MUST kill within three days after a hanging. Linwood hanged on September 8th. Therefore, if one killer was still alive he had no choice but to kill again last night (September 11th) at the latest.

He will kill again September 15th at the very latest since someone will be hanged tonight (Sept 12th). The killer seems to be waiting as long as possible.

It only makes sense. Why? Because he wants as many people to post as possible during the interim. Low did the same thing, if I recall.

To me it's just logic. The only way the killer could not kill last night is if Slippy didn't post the death for some reason or if the killer broke the rules. I know Slippy well enough to figure he would impose some kind of penalty on the killer(s) if they broke the rules. Slippy don't play dat. LOL.

Also, I figured there WOULD be another killing because I believed and still believe we missed on Dlev. I think Linwood was a killer, but I thought his accomplice was still around based on what transpired over the last few days.

If I were really the killer do you think I'd be running around telling people "MURDER WILL HAPPEN TONIGHT AT "X" PM"????

Are we trying to catch "a" murderer with this poll or the one who specifically killed Motown?

I just noticed that Darth hasn't been posting much outside of this thread, making him unlikely to be the murderer in this case, but possibly the murderer in previous instances.

Here is the evidence I've gathered.

Remember, it only takes one post to kill:

9-9-06 "Shock win it all thread". 9-9-06 is the first day within the three day window period Sept 9 - Sept 11) where he can murder. (Easier to bury an older post).

Roscoe posted two words that could knock someone (Motown) off:

Championship =generic basketball word.

Laimbeer =Piston word.

L, A, E, are the clues we have. All fit in Laimbeer.


Guys, please take my background and training into account before assuming that because I understand the rules I must be guilty. I was trained to understand rules backwards and forwards. I can't help it. I have to pay attention to even the most minor details. That's why I understand the rules. I don't understand a single word in that "dreamweaver" thread, but I do understand this stuff.

Nice try Darth. If I wasn't quoting Laimbeer in almost real time from the game 5 post game press conference. And as far as burying a post, I'm not the damn killer (for the 1 millionth time).

You've killed Dlev and linwood. And there is still a murderer (or two) at large.

Your credibility as an investigator is shot. How many innocent people have to hang, falsely accused by YOU with each murder?

You're the best killer this game could have. You take a victim, and then you hang another one each time for a crime they didn't commit.

Now you want to put on your cape and monocle to accuse me? HA! I laugh in your general direction.

Roscoe,

Well, I know I didn't do it. If you are innocent...then who did it?

You didn't kill Motown or you aren't a murderer?

I wonder if there's cable up here? My wireless connection for internet access has some remarkable range, huh?

You didn't kill Motown or you aren't a murderer?

I'm not a murderer.


I'm also not hell bent on trying to lynch you if you are innocent. In fact, I don't want to.

But SOMEBODY had to kill him. There must be some evidence within the last 3 days of who did it. All I've been able to dig up is your stuff, although I did just find something else on a different person.

Slippy...can the murder words be in the actual title thread ? So in other words, the word isn't in the post but rather in the heading?

current rules are: clue words can exist anywhere in the post.

Motown, I have seen your team in the Afterlife Fantasy Basketball league. '69 Kareem Abdul Jabar. '89 Michael Jordan. '89 Joe Dumars. '86 Larry Bird. Great drafting man.

Prof,

I honestly don't understand why people think it is so unusual that I knew there would be another killing last night:

(1) The rules state the killer MUST kill within three days after a hanging. Linwood hanged on September 8th. Therefore, if one killer was still alive he had no choice but to kill again last night (September 11th) at the latest.


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yup, slippy said the same thing. i forgot about that rule.

does anybody feel they have a decent idea of what prime candidates for "clue words" might be at this point?

It can't be Warthog or majestik. Neither has posted in the last 3 days.

It can't be Warthog or majestik. Neither has posted in the last 3 days.

I have another prime suspect. It's not them. I'm getting gun shy though. When I come up with evidence...I get blamed. :violin:

Motown, I have seen your team in the Afterlife Fantasy Basketball league. '69 Kareem Abdul Jabar. '89 Michael Jordan. '89 Joe Dumars. '86 Larry Bird. Great drafting man.

Thanks Slippy! lol. If only I could resurrect and use that team in the Advanced League. Now that would be awesome! :)

Thanks Slippy! lol. If only I could resurrect and use that team in the Advanced League. Now that would be awesome! :)

Question from the quick.

Can you go back in time and stuff? Like, to go hang out in ancient Egypt or anything like that?

Eh, Darth don't play scared. I'll die with my head held high if that's what ka dictates. Here is what I have:

Based on a series of pm's I had with Roscoe the other day(trying to glean more insight into his motives) I am reluctant to cast a vote against him when there are other options. He MAY be innocent.

However, I found some things that made me highly suspicious of Webz.


Laimbeer in wnba playoffs thread : webz #77 (word
playoffs in title)


Notice the words Laimbeer AND playoffs. Also notice
players,WNBA and Shock.

Laimbeer being the Piston word and the others are
possible general basketball words. Here is the
suspicious post:

Re: Laimbeer in WNBA Playoffs
Congrats to Bill and the Shock.

I'm not sure it would be fair on Laimbeer to bring him
straight into the head coach position. Imagine the
pressure he would face. I think if it was going to
happen he should have a season as an assistant at
least to get used to to everything, then if there was
a position open, look at giving him the reigns.
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So I looked at his posts since the murders began. First he accused Jammer and voted to hang him. Then Aurora, then jumped on the hang Darth bandwagon.

Always apologetic and always in the shadows.

This guy is smart enough to pull this whole thing off.
I know. I saw the basketball team he drafted!

Webz...I think maybe you did it.

I'm at work. Can anyone cross reference the murder words to see if he could have done the other murders, or if his partner (perhaps hanged) could have done so.

I'm only going with the evidence. I wish I had more time to check everything.


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And by the way folks, if I were a murderer, my partner must still be alive (since I voted to hang the dead guys), so don't you think I would have my partner posting these theories???? Of course I would. But I ma doing it because I don't have a partner. I'm innocent.

Eh, Darth don't play scared. I'll die with my head held high if that's what ka dictates. Here is what I have:

Based on a series of pm's I had with Roscoe the other day(trying to glean more insight into his motives) I am reluctant to cast a vote against him when there are other options. He MAY be innocent.

However, I found some things that made me highly suspicious of Webz.


Laimbeer in wnba playoffs thread : webz #77 (word
playoffs in title)


Notice the words Laimbeer AND playoffs. Also notice
players,WNBA and Shock.

Laimbeer being the Piston word and the others are
possible general basketball words. Here is the
suspicious post:

Re: Laimbeer in WNBA Playoffs
Congrats to Bill and the Shock.

I'm not sure it would be fair on Laimbeer to bring him
straight into the head coach position. Imagine the
pressure he would face. I think if it was going to
happen he should have a season as an assistant at
least to get used to to everything, then if there was
a position open, look at giving him the reigns.
-----------------------------------------------------------


So I looked at his posts since the murders began. First he accused Jammer and voted to hang him. Then Aurora, then jumped on the hang Darth bandwagon.

Always apologetic and always in the shadows.

This guy is smart enough to pull this whole thing off.
I know. I saw the basketball team he drafted!

Webz...I think maybe you did it.

I'm at work. Can anyone cross reference the murder words to see if he could have done the other murders, or if his partner (perhaps hanged) could have done so.

I'm only going with the evidence. I wish I had more time to check everything.


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And by the way folks, if I were a murderer, my partner must still be alive (since I voted to hang the dead guys), so don't you think I would have my partner posting these theories???? Of course I would. But I ma doing it because I don't have a partner. I'm innocent.

If i'm not mistaken, detteam also has several posts within the timeframe (especially on 9.10.06) and in the "laimbeer in WNBA playoffs" thread that use the word "Laimbeer" (and not just in the thread title) as well as any number of other words that could be the generic basketball words.

I was also trying to brainstorm other possible Pistons words that include the letters "L" "E" and "A". "Maxiell" came to mind, but then there's no posts that use that word -- if I used the search function correctly -- within the murder time frame.

Anybody out there feel like trying to help widen the list of possible Pistons key words? Laimbeer fits, as Darth said, but there could be others we haven't thought of.

Some others I've thought of without even checking to see whether they've even been used in any posts

Alex (as in Acker)
Salley (as in John)
Palace


anybody else?

However, I found some things that made me highly suspicious of Webz.


Laimbeer in wnba playoffs thread : webz #77 (word
playoffs in title)


Notice the words Laimbeer AND playoffs. Also notice
players,WNBA and Shock.

Laimbeer being the Piston word and the others are
possible general basketball words. Here is the
suspicious post:

Re: Laimbeer in WNBA Playoffs
Congrats to Bill and the Shock.

I'm not sure it would be fair on Laimbeer to bring him
straight into the head coach position. Imagine the
pressure he would face. I think if it was going to
happen he should have a season as an assistant at
least to get used to to everything, then if there was
a position open, look at giving him the reigns.
-----------------------------------------------------------

You can't use this line

Re: Laimbeer in WNBA Playoffs
It's automatically quoted from the thread title.

You can't use this line


It's automatically quoted from the thread title.


I asked slippy that question earlier today, but maybe I misinterpreted his response.

If you are correct, than that clears webz because Laimbeer is in the post but no other bball word is unless you use "assistant" and that seems a far stretch.

If i'm not mistaken, detteam also has several posts within the timeframe (especially on 9.10.06) and in the "laimbeer in WNBA playoffs" thread that use the word "Laimbeer" (and not just in the thread title) as well as any number of other words that could be the generic basketball words.

I was also trying to brainstorm other possible Pistons words that include the letters "L" "E" and "A". "Maxiell" came to mind, but then there's no posts that use that word -- if I used the search function correctly -- within the murder time frame.

Anybody out there feel like trying to help widen the list of possible Pistons key words? Laimbeer fits, as Darth said, but there could be others we haven't thought of.

Some others I've thought of without even checking to see whether they've even been used in any posts

Alex (as in Acker)
Salley (as in John)
Palace


anybody else?

I thought of "Palace" but nothing came up in my searches. "Alex" is good, but awfully short. The murderers would run out of clues after 4 killings.

Carlisle???? Can someone check that out?

I thought of "Palace" but nothing came up in my searches. "Alex" is good, but awfully short. The murderers would run out of clues after 4 killings.

Carlisle???? Can someone check that out?

carlisle doesn't come up after september 7...now i understand better the fun of vigilantism -- actually trying to sift through evidence and be logical takes a lot of darn work!

Question from the quick.

Can you go back in time and stuff? Like, to go hang out in ancient Egypt or anything like that?

Sounds very Quantum Leap 'ish! I'll have to check it out and get back to you. Perhaps thats what was in that Orientation booklet I used as scrap paper to work on my fantasy draft strategies. Crap!

carlisle doesn't come up after september 7...now i understand better the fun of vigilantism -- actually trying to sift through evidence and be logical takes a lot of darn work!

Ok...who used it?

Remember...the killers don't even have to use that word every time.

They can switch off between the 3 words. It's possible it was never used. But did one of us use it? That's possible evidence for a past murder (TFD's, I think...not sure who was killed during that time frame).

It was buried under the part where it is suggested people draft Centers first. Look in the trash.

Ok...who used it?

Remember...the killers don't even have to use that word every time.

They can switch off between the 3 words. It's possible it was never used. But did one of us use it? That's possible evidence for a past murder (TFD's, I think...not sure who was killed during that time frame).

gotcha. no, it wasn't any of us playing the game. it was in the what will the pistons record be thread and it was BillLaimbeer, PimpMasterRodman and DBA, who used it, all on the 7th.

gotcha. no, it wasn't any of us playing the game. it was in the what will the pistons record be thread and it was BillLaimbeer, PimpMasterRodman and DBA, who used it, all on the 7th.

Guys, nobody has voted. I assume it is for the same reason I haven't voted. We don't have enough real evidence to hang any individual and the few that we do suspect, are people who are either participating in this particular thread or on the forum overall.

We want to encourage participation. Not punish it. I suggested long ago that we hang a person who really doesn't care or who is sandbagging. We have a couple of those people remaining while the rest of us are trying to figure this out. The sandbaggers very well may be innocent, but I think someone (NOT ME) should suggest a couple of names, and we discuss it and hang one. That will buy us time and increase participation.

By sandbaggers I mean people who don't vote, don't discuss or solve the crime, and don't post otherwise.

The clue letter the murderer leaves us next time should give us a big clue as to the Piston word. Assuming it's been used in the murder posts once or twice should help us make the right choice if we hang an active participant.

So we should vote for someone who doesn't post? Forget that. You may like having the blood of innocents all over your hands, but I do not.

It is said that he who is without sin should cast the first stone.

I am almost ready to cast a ballot. My gut tells me something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

So we should vote for someone who doesn't post? Forget that. You may like having the blood of innocents all over your hands, but I do not.

It is said that he who is without sin should cast the first stone.

I am almost ready to cast a ballot. My gut tells me something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Well, find a good baked potato picture. That should incite the crowd.

Anybody out there feel like trying to help widen the list of possible Pistons key words? Laimbeer fits, as Darth said, but there could be others we haven't thought of.


I'm kinda slow or lazy.Kinda lost, been scanning through this trying to figure out the rules and who to blame.Carlos Delfino?Sheed Wallace?
Not sure if that's any help or even right on what to look for.

Maybe we should all listen to Darth the Pied Piper who leads everyone to hang the innocent. Yeah.

NO!

Have it your way

Not a bad idea. We just might get it right this time!

And so it begins. The Darth Tater self preservation tour.

"Vote to hang people who may not have done it because they are fodder"

"Dlev and linwood must hang" *At least one was innocent*

"Woe is me. Everyone is tossing rotten 'taters at Ol' Darth. Boo Hoo"

I can't wait to see how much credibility you have after your alliance of murder conspirators does me in and the murders continue.

HOW MANY TIMES WILL THIS POTATO HEAD BE ALLOWED TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE?

Btw, I voted for detteam.

Darth does all of his crack (hahaha) investigation on webz, and completely overlooks at least 2 of detteam's posts in the same thread that qualify.

Since DT is like a bloodhound with no sense of smell, I could chalk it up to his ineptitude as a detective.

But of course, someone posted the obvious and he chose not to even respond.

Something is stinky around here. I bet if research is done on the first and second murders, other ties to detteam can be made. Me, I went with instinct. If Darth overlooks it, then based on the last two guys he killed innocently, the evidence is nearly conclusive.

Don't let the politicians cloud your judgement.

current rules are: clue words can exist anywhere in the post.

Just for the record, this sucks. :( Clue words should not be in someone else's quote or the title of the thread. Slippy, it's just very LAME.

This screws up all my previous evidence gathering and the list of possible suspects and possible murder posts is much longer.:rolleyes:

I know, I know I should have clarified it sooner. AARGH.

I'm with darth on this one, as conclusified by my vote.
obviously it's the ones who are physically incapable.
for sure!
i did it because i haven't posted about basketball!!!!

5 minutes left online at the computer lab...

1. There is no evidence against Darth for the murder of Motown Pride.
2. Roscoe has some evidence against him, but it's largely circumstantial in the sense that he posts so much in the basketball threads that he's bound to look suspicious. Not enough to time to further investigate.
3. Detteam has several posts that look suspicious to me. I don't have my paperwork from the TheeTFD murder with me, but I recognize some re-occurring words, but they are lame words like: roster,starter.
4. The one post from WebZ is suspicious, however he didn't have any evidence in the previous two murders that I found.

I'm going with my gut and I'm voting to hang detteam. Both Roscoe and the Prof found the same evidence I did and so...:rolleyes: detteam it is for me.

I just want to say that I love PistonsForum.com. :inlove:

Btw, I voted for detteam.

Darth does all of his crack (hahaha) investigation on webz, and completely overlooks at least 2 of detteam's posts in the same thread that qualify.

Since DT is like a bloodhound with no sense of smell, I could chalk it up to his ineptitude as a detective.

But of course, someone posted the obvious and he chose not to even respond.

Something is stinky around here. I bet if research is done on the first and second murders, other ties to detteam can be made. Me, I went with instinct. If Darth overlooks it, then based on the last two guys he killed innocently, the evidence is nearly conclusive.

Don't let the politicians cloud your judgement.

I didn't play the first game and have been watching this game to get a feel for it.

Yeah...I posted my thots on a few subjects...you wanna hang me for it? Go right ahead. You wanted me to come out and defend my posts...here it is...go back and read them. If you expect me to stop posting my thots because of this game...not gonna happen.

You're right...something is stinky around here.


The truth will wash out in the end, and everyone giving me the evil eye will feel pretty darn foolish because if there is one thing I know, it's that I am not guilty.

This is no way to treat your friendly neighborhood administrator. :Cry:


You've really put up a flurry of Tater-mashing stuff. When I look at the fact you voted for yourself to be hung after TFD went down...and now your trying to fry someone else with no evidence...I'm very suspicious. Yeah...no one would suspect "your friendly neighborhood administrator". :rolleyes:

I'm torn between voting for 2 people.

I had a hunch that if something specific happend, I was convinced this person was the killer. My hunch was confirmed recently, but now I can't remember the original reason I had the hunch! :frusty:

When is the deadline for voting? I have some more investigating to do!

I'm with darth on this one, as conclusified by my vote.
obviously it's the ones who are physically incapable.
for sure!
i did it because i haven't posted about basketball!!!!


You weren't on my list of non-participants Tay. You voted and gave feedback in this thread.

Sorry, I'm at work so I can't respond to everything right now, but I hope we all remember this is FUN. :)

Just for the record, this sucks. :( Clue words should not be in someone else's quote or the title of the thread. Slippy, it's just very LAME.

This screws up all my previous evidence gathering and the list of possible suspects and possible murder posts is much longer.:rolleyes:

I know, I know I should have clarified it sooner. AARGH.
You are free to state any opinion you wish. For my part, I will simply state that the rules were designed to promote lateral thinking on the part of the killer since all you really had to do was look at post traffic and adv. search keywords to narrow it down to 2-3 people.

Thanks for playing.

You are free to state any opinion you wish. For my part, I will simply state that the rules were designed to promote lateral thinking on the part of the killer since all you really had to do was look at post traffic and adv. search keywords to narrow it down to 2-3 people.

Thanks for playing.

the rules are fine slippy... chill everyone... it's just a game, nobody's really dying and if we don't get it perfect, it's all good. whatever level of effort we put into it is the result of our choice. obviously, everyone's gonna bring the attitude they feel like bringin' to the game. maybe we can enjoy those differences and the ribbing that goes along with that. (in tearful rodney king voice): can't we all just get along?

Ahem, now then,

a question (and sorry if I've missed this answer somewhere else): can a first and last name count as a single pistons word? for example yesterday, i was thinking of "Laimbeer" and of "Alex" as single words that included "a" "l" and "e", but I was excluding "Carlos Delfino" or "Kelvin Cato" (where you'd need first and last to get the letters covered).

what say, judges?

no. its one word.
obit for detteam coming up.

It was known as the Linwood Memorial Coal Burning Oven - a man-sized brick oven designed to efficiently turn out baked starches in mere seconds so that the condiment industry could reverse its financial woes. Linwood was its unfortunate first victim. And he didn't taste that good with ketchup. It was more like pork rinds and it didn't go over too well with the culinary guru's like Roscoe and Superstarov.
The noose itself was a passe item. Sure you could hear shouts of "Hang him!!!" but that was rhetoric - a rhythmic alliteration that was much easier to say than "Cook him in the oven!"

Detteam was selected this time to pay for the murder of Motown, the forums pre-eminent fantasy basketball expert. The coal was heated up when someone shouted, "This is inhumane!!!! You bunch of animals! Cooking your peers. This is 2006. We should know better. We shouldn't have to witness cannibalism. WE shouldn't have to witness mob justice! We shouldn't have to sit through an entire season of sideline twitching and a mid-range focused offense! Well, that may have to happen but not this!!"

"Well what should we do," the reply was in unison.

"Banish him!!!!"

"To where?"

"A NASA constructed facsimile of the moon! Complete with floating United States flag."

"hmm," said jammertime, "that may work. it possibly doesn't exist so he probably couldn't escape from it."

"Yes YES!" cried Detteam, "I'll even swear on the bible that I won't even TRY to escape."

"Nah, there's no room on the server for a conspiracy theory that doesn't involve David Stern," said Roscoe, "we'll turn him into chili using this"
http://www.vulcanhart.com/images/products/389.jpg

"YIKES!" cried deteam. "I think banishment is a LOT healthier for the group."
"You're right my cholesterol conscious compadre," said Prof, "but with Flip still at the helm, we'll need all the Free Chili we can get. NOW GET IN THE POT!!"

And so it was that Pistons Fans were ready for the season. Finally.

LMAO! :pound:

You are a talented writer my friend. I never thought it would be this enjoyable to be a murder victim. :)

Jeez...is it getting hot in here or is it just me? Could someone open a window please?

However, I found some things that made me highly suspicious of Webz.

Laimbeer being the Piston word and the others are
possible general basketball words.

Yeah its a bit late to come back and defend myself seeing as the hanging/baking/steaming has taken place, but anyhow:

You know darth, there is an entire thread on Laimbeer, its a bit un-detective-like to just pluck a name out of thin air like that.

I'm doing more research next time, this round i didn't have enough time. i think detteam was on my 'to-hang' list in the first round.

But i have my eye on a few others too. :wacko:

As a follow-up after my long, slow simmer, I only have one thing to say to my detractors:



BITE ME! :peace:

So what's the deal Slippy. You made it sound like it was over, but it's been a while. So was det guilty or what? At least tell us that much.

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:swear2: management! Management can :censored:

TELL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

you know Darth, your mumbling is really starting to bum me out. do try to type clearly next time.