http://www.hoopsworld.com/printer_14487.shtml

That's an article on the new NBA dress code (which no one appears to be 100% clear on). Apparently players are expected to dress professionally at all times including pre/post-game, the flights, interviews etc.

A lot of the new-generation ballers are not so hot on it, and I can see how some standard should be set seeing as how some guys plain look dumpy or ridiculous. They make enough money.

On the other hand, the NBA has basically become a superstar's league since the Showtime Lakers. It's all about personalities, as individual matchups are marketed with more passion than organization vs. organization.

I will be sad to see the end of Ben Wallace sporting a Tiger's cap on the way to the San Antonio arena for a Finals game, and wonder when the NBA starts to legislate hair, jewellery and running shoes next. After all, doesn't Nike et al want their shoes on these heavily marketed players at ALL times? Since when did Air Jordans go with grey polyester?

I for one would enjoy seeing guys dressed like pimps and the role players on min contracts wearing thrift store tuxes.

Can you see Rasheed showing up to an interview in this?

http://www.pistonsforum.com/images/micro/blue_tux.jpg

Worst idea ever. The league shouldn't have the right to control the players so much. Its a fundamental freedom of theirs to wear whatever they want; maybe if they were on the job (heading into the arena and out) then it'd make sense but this doesn't.

I heard A.I. is pissed. No more throwback jerseys.

Yes A.I. is ticked. So is Sheed, antonio Davis, josh Childress, and many others.

I think its totally unnecesary.

I think its totally unnecesary.

You know, usually when they make unpopular (stupid?) rules like this it's because one or two people are making them look bad and they can't just single them out (players Union) so everyone has to suffer with a blanket policy. (Maybe they were mad about Maxiell sporting the pink hat) :laugh:

what a meaningless rule.

we are talking about adults for heavens sake!

Agree to disagree on Davis and dress code? Who is in charge?


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/353330p-301227c.html

I have thought for a long time that the NBAers when they are not dressed for games, are without a doubt the best-dressed athletes of all the sports. They virtually always show up dressed like fashion plates.

And when they dress in things like IA, they are usually making some sort of statement.

Leave them alone, Stern. Just leave them alone when they are on their own time. They usually look better dressed than you do, anyway :eyebrows: .

This is all about the image of the NBA. Stern probably still recoils at the thought of Pacers players going into the stands and pummeling fans. Also, I feel Stern thinks there is a racial disconnect in the NBA. He sees a lot of young tattooed black players wearing throwback jerseys and bling and he sees that as "turning off" all the white, suburban fans. I hate to bring race into this, but I think that's a large part of this dress code deal. Of course, a lot of the white, suburban fans wear the throwback jerseys, too. So what's your problem, Dave? :ohwell:

Yeah, I heard about that the other day. I love it!

I can't see there being enough room in NY for Thomas, Brown, Marbury and their egos.

Zeke is a better coach than a GM. That's stupid to force a guy to play if he doesn't want to. He says it's not charity, but it will be when Davis sulks or doesn't bring 100% and still earns his paycheck.

That's one thing about Joe D. If you don't want to be here, SEE YA LATA!

Who cares?? Larry wants to bring in another guy instead of Davis.

Who cares?? Larry wants to bring in another guy instead of Davis.
Actually, Larry wants Davis. Davis is an LB guy (from Indiana), a veteran, a pro and a locker room leader.

But in an interview I heard on Jim Rome during the summer, he really wants to be in Chicago because his wife is there now, and (knowing him from when he was in Toronto) his wife is the boss.

Actually, Larry wants Davis. Davis is an LB guy (from Indiana), a veteran, a pro and a locker room leader.

But in an interview I heard on Jim Rome during the summer, he really wants to be in Chicago because his wife is there now, and (knowing him from when he was in Toronto) his wife is the boss.

You are lucky I couldn't find the source of my comment. If Davis doesn't not stay with New York, Brown has already plugged in a name for his replacement. Has anyone else seen it??

will sheed be able to wear his championship belt??

the league tries to make money off of inner city youth. but once you start making the money they want you to convert/sell out. most of these players never wore suits in thier normal day to day life. why should they have to wear a suit to go play basketball.

the dress code is deep down racist. it specifically targets the way african american athletes dress. it targets the culture that they were raised in. i don't know any white specific clothing attire. but if the nba said white athletes had to wear cornrows all of america would be up in arms.

neck tattoos aren't professional either. but the league doesn't have a problem promoting iverson and making money off of him.

what about new zealand. don't they wear a unitard on the court or something?? that's unprofessional if i ever seen it.

when stern goes to visit the youth in detroit or something should he be made to wear a throwback so he can fit in??

will sheed be able to wear his championship belt??

Hopefully, Sheed will put that thing away and not bring it out again unless the Pistons win another one. I thought it was ridiculous to wear that thing during the playoffs. The Patriots (of the NFL) have the right idea. After winning a Super Bowl, they don't make references to it during the new season. They realize they haven't won anything. The Pistons and more specifically, Sheed, should have done that last season.

will sheed be able to wear his championship belt??

the league tries to make money off of inner city youth. but once you start making the money they want you to convert/sell out. most of these players never wore suits in thier normal day to day life. why should they have to wear a suit to go play basketball.

the dress code is deep down racist. it specifically targets the way african american athletes dress. it targets the culture that they were raised in. i don't know any white specific clothing attire. but if the nba said white athletes had to wear cornrows all of america would be up in arms.

neck tattoos aren't professional either. but the league doesn't have a problem promoting iverson and making money off of him.

what about new zealand. don't they wear a unitard on the court or something?? that's unprofessional if i ever seen it.

when stern goes to visit the youth in detroit or something should he be made to wear a throwback so he can fit in??

There is alot of truth to what you are saying and I applaud you for your boldness. You've got my respect. :thumb: I agree with pretty much all of your points, except we sometimes forget that when you really look at it this is a business. If Commissioner Stern thinks that everyone should wear bunny rabbit suits your option is to comply by the rules or leave. Unfortunately, there is no competitive alternative so the athletes hands are tied. That is of course, unless they decide to pull there resources together and come up with an alternative themselves creating a league where the ownership matches the faces of the players. Since that isn't happening...well quite frankly...they need to just suck it up and put on the suit. I don't find the dress code to be meaningful, but the league has every right to dictate what they consider to be in ther realms of proffesionalism for their company.

I'm curious to know what people think about the approach that should be taken.

Is it better to make clear what should NOT be worn, or what should be?

Which is more restrictive? Which targets a particular demographic (think both ways) here?

Interesting question. Who is the real DEMOGRAPHIC. Adoring kids & young adults, season ticket buying adults, suite & bulk ticket buying corporations, or mega millions corporate advertisers. Does it matter and why should it. Each segment has a specific set of expectations of the league and perceptions about the league. If the league perceives or wishes a demographic shift, shouldn't it react accordingly.

I personally don't see what the big deal is. There is room for some compromise but there should be a dress code. I agree wearing a suit on your way to the game and before the game and after the game is crazy but if you are making an apprearance on a TV show or a charity function and even if you are injuried or not playing and are on the bench you should be in business casual wear. I think you should dress appropiately. Some of these guy's simply just don't know what is appropiate to wear so they have to be told. They are getting paid an awlful lot of money to play basketball so if the league says suit up fellas I don't see the big deal.

Like I said there should be a compromise but I think there should be some form of a dress code and it should not be a big deal. It is not a real big deal like some of the players are making it out to be. It is more of an image issue the NBA is trying to change. Is it the right thing for them to try address and is the dress code really the answer??? Well that is another subject totally.

What are we talking about here? The right to wear throwback jerseys? This is nothing more than another example of NBA players being pathetically immature. Where's the travesty, in having to don a suit? You give me the opportunity to play in the NBA, pulling down that kind of Jack, I'll wear a dang Tu-Tu to and from games. They're acting like they're asking them to show up in their underwear, for goodness sakes.

We're right in the middle of people dying in hurricanes and earthquakes and these numbskull's want to fight for the right to wear Rip city or Philadelphia Flyer jerseys? They should be more worried about pulling down a dang rebound in game seven or getting Bruce Bowen off their back side.

If it's good enough for the best player in the history of the NBA, to show up looking presentable, then it should be good enough for the rest of these guys. I would think there is more important things for these cats to be worried about, like getting off on a fast start to start the season, as opposed to getting embarrassed by the likes of the Bobcats and the Hawks.

This is one of the examples of picking your battles. Save it for something a little more worthwhile.

I'm forced to wear a suit and I'm not happy about it either. However, I don't think that I'll be complaining too much to Corporate Headquarters.

Pick your battles is a good suggestion for them. The league probably picked this issue to keep all the players busy on something meaningless.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/printer_14487.shtml

That's an article on the new NBA dress code (which no one appears to be 100% clear on). Apparently players are expected to dress professionally at all times including pre/post-game, the flights, interviews etc.





I'd like to know what the actual policy will state. It's a question of breadth for me.

If it really is just for interviews, flights, walking in and out of the arena, etc. I have no problem with it at all and I think the NBA is well within their rights to request that of players.

But if Sheed is in San Antonio next year for game 4 (he he...an away game this time) of the NBA finals and he wants to go to the 7-11 and grab a banana slurpee 3 hours before or after the game then I think it is highly unreasonable to force him to put on a suit to do that.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/pistons/0510/18/D05-352477.htm

Is Stern outta his mind? How he came up with this is beyond comprehension. What's next? Limitations on tatoos and piercings? (neither of which I favor for MYSELF...what OTHER people want to do is not my business) Or will it be facial hair or hairstyles?

The article states that Stern will announce penalties next week. Here is my idea. Make the penalty a small fee (by player standards)...maybe a $100 per public appearance infraction. Then have the NBA direct that money to a charity of that player's choice.

BTW...I nominate Chauncey for best-dressed in the NBA

http://www.detnews.com/2005/pistons/0510/18/D05-352477.htm

Is Stern outta his mind? How he came up with this is beyond comprehension. What's next? Limitations on tatoos and piercings? (neither of which I favor for MYSELF...what OTHER people want to do is not my business) Or will it be facial hair or hairstyles?

The article states that Stern will announce penalties next week. Here is my idea. Make the penalty a small fee (by player standards)...maybe a $100 per public appearance infraction. Then have the NBA direct that money to a charity of that player's choice.

BTW...I nominate Chauncey for best-dressed in the NBA

If Stern wants the players to abide by that dress policy there is no way, IMO, he is going to come up with anything as minimal as a $100 fine. If it's going to cost them money it is going to cost them a whole lot more. Maybe more each time they get caught.

The charity idea would be workable though, and is a really nice idea.

If Stern wants the players to abide by that dress policy there is no way, IMO, he is going to come up with anything as minimal as a $100 fine. If it's going to cost them money it is going to cost them a whole lot more. Maybe more each time they get caught.

The charity idea would be workable though, and is a really nice idea.

You're right about Stern. The hundie was my idea to give the players freedom to express themselves while supporting worthwhile causes. It would probably be a nightmare for Stern/NBA to keep track of, but what the hell else do they do besides deal with Artest?...the CBA's done

You're right about Stern. The hundie was my idea to give the players freedom to express themselves while supporting worthwhile causes. It would probably be a nightmare for Stern/NBA to keep track of, but what the hell else do they do besides deal with Artest?...the CBA's done

LOL @ dealing with Arsetest.

There is no reason that I have seen for a dress code. The NBA players generally, whenever you see them, actually athletes in general, look good when they are out in public. They are a bunch of young millionaires and they dress like it, for the most part.

But the real dunderhead move was to ban headphones. What could possibly have brought that on?

I have wished Sheed would not wear them so much because it kind of makes it look like he wants to ignore the fans. but I really do not think that is on his mind. I believe that mainly he is trying to get his mind centered on what he wants at the time, like getting his thoughts on the game.

The dress code is bad enough :frusty: , but the ban on phones just sucks.

Since its here its rumored that AI caused this by showing up for an interview on ESPN wearing army fatigues.

Just another case of Sterns shot-gun approach to managing the NBA.

But what does this really matter? So they have to spend an extra 5-10 mins dressing and undressing before/after games.

Since its here its rumored that AI caused this by showing up for an interview on ESPN wearing army fatigues.

Just another case of Sterns shot-gun approach to managing the NBA.

But what does this really matter? So they have to spend an extra 5-10 mins dressing and undressing before/after games.

Is Stern trying to control player advertising/endorsement contracts? What does Stern really care about what his young millionaire's wear?

Stern's need to dominate is what pisses me off. I bet he tried to slide the dress code thing into the CBA negotiations and was rejected. None of the players like it...most of the fans either don't like it or don't really care...why does Stern feel the need to impose his will? Seems to me he feels demeaned by the players union for one reason or another, and he's striking back.

BTW...replay of last nights game right now on FSN, in case you missed it

detteam. anything making Stern look bad I am all for but there are larger issues out there. Like in last nights game why do the Dirks always get the cheap calls against guys like Darko?

But yes, every so often Stern seems to feel the need to create some dumb rule or restriction just to let the players know he is in charge.

Complete egomaniac. Like in his "Stern Rules" responce to the brawl.

Dirk's established a star presence in the NBA. The officials/Stern don't know Darko...yet

some of these rules are just ridiculous.

no headphones or medallions? Brotha can't wear a crucifix now? Not proffesional to wear headphones to work? whateva Stern. whateva.

in the video interview with chauncey last night you could tell he was really upset at the dress code. then he was asked what sheed and rip would do now that they can't wear throwbacks, and he said "oh you might still see them" with a wink/smile ... i'm thinking sheed and rip will just ignore the dress code. :)

Yeah, how far can they take the threat anyway?

Suspend players for violating the dress code?

I was back and forth on it. Now I am against it. Fining players for their fashion sense is juvenile and unproductive IMO.

Calls jewelry ban "racist"


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2197001

I wonder how Stern will deal with Roscoe's belt next spring.

I wonder how Stern will deal with Roscoe's belt next spring.

The real question is: What will Roscoe do with the belt? Wrap it around Sterns neck or shove it up...

This is great...

Utah center Greg Ostertag, who claimed he doesn't even own a sports jacket, said he's not just mad about the dress code. He plans to get even. "I don't mind if they clean it up a little bit," Ostertag said, "but they can go without them -- sport coats. They're going to get the worst-looking one they've ever seen on me. I'll go buy one off a guy on the street."

Full Article (http://www.nynewsday.com/sports/basketball/ny-sphow194475632oct19,0,4741715.column?coll=ny-basketball-headlines)

Dirk's established a star presence in the NBA. The officials/Stern don't know Darko...yet

Still does not make it right. All calls should be the same no matter who its for/against. Superstars are already the best players they do not need extra help from the refs.

Dress Code: If I were a player I would have fun with it and dress up in something like a Tuxedo and top-hat or the brightest gaudiest suit I could find with bright orange socks.

Still does not make it right. All calls should be the same no matter who its for/against. Superstars are already the best players they do not need extra help from the refs.

Dress Code: If I were a player I would have fun with it and dress up in something like a Tuxedo and top-hat or the brightest gaudiest suit I could find with bright orange socks.

LOL!! I was just thinking the same thing. I would be wearing beat up shoes and plaid sport coats. I would also call Craig Sager and get him to hook me up with his tailer. :laugh:

LOL!! I was just thinking the same thing. I would be wearing beat up shoes and plaid sport coats. I would also call Craig Sager and get him to hook me up with his tailer. :laugh:

too funny! :laugh:

Check out C-Note and Rip.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/index

Sorry, here's the pic




http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nba/2005/1018/photo/g_billups_412.jpg

Sorry, here's the pic




http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nba/2005/1018/photo/g_billups_412.jpg

that's a nice suit Chauncey is sportin'. I need to add something like that to my collection. :eyebrows:

Quote from AI

"I feel like if they want us to dress a certain way, they should pay for our clothes,"

http://www.detnews.com/2005/pistons/0510/20/nba-355357.htm

Quote from AI

"I feel like if they want us to dress a certain way, they should pay for our clothes,"

http://www.detnews.com/2005/pistons/0510/20/nba-355357.htm

umm...look at your paycheck AI. They do. lol.

I say wear the draft day suits. Most of these guys probably only wear these suits one time....like a Prom dress..so why not get some more use out of them. I mean do you think Jalen really wore this suit anywhere else?

http://www.jalenrose.com/images/draft_fashion_rose94.jpg

I say wear the draft day suits. Most of these guys probably only wear these suits one time....like a Prom dress..so why not get some more use out of them. I mean do you think Jalen really wore this suit anywhere else?

http://www.jalenrose.com/images/draft_fashion_rose94.jpg

I hope he stayed away from any crosswalks that day. I'm sure that there were alot of stray dogs in Detroit that would have had a field day with him . lol.

I hope he stayed away from any crosswalks that day. I'm sure that there were alot of stray dogs in Detroit that would have had a field day with him . lol.

LMAO! Good one.

I have only retyped this like 3 times now because i dont want to sound like a jerk but get over it. When i was in high school players had to dress up on game days and if they didnt they got punished. To bring race into it just made the whole situation uglier. Why act like you are to poor to by a suit. Why act like they are asking you to do something so horrible that you bring up race. Players are making way to big of a deal out of it. If they dont agree with it shut up pay the fine and make your statment that way.