Hey folks, thought I'd let you in on something cool.

A while back when I was first registering the trial league I noticed another offering by NBA.com called the Premier Fantasy Championship. This is a league where the best fantasy basketball minds in the world get together to duke it out and determine who is the greatest. Over 9,000 people would submit entries and compete for 30 spots. Selections would be determined based on essay and prior success in fantasy basketball competitions. Yes, they even requested information so that they could validate your performance. Unfortunately, I did not make the cut. I was however chosen to be one of the 360 entries assigned to the Premier Fantasy Championship D-League.

Here's how it works:

Each NBA team in the Premier League is represented by a GM. Every month the performances of the GMs in the Premier League will be evaluated and any GM with a losing record will be eligible to be voted off by the other GMs in the Premier League. Once a GM is voted off, their team becomes available and the GM that sports the best record for that team's development league affilate becomes the new team owner. Each NBA team has a D-League affiliate league that is comprised of 12 teams. Currently, I've been assigned to the Pistons D-League where I compete against 11 other teams as the Sioux Falls Skyforce. So basically, I'm hoping that the current Detroit Pistons owner gets voted off so that I will have an opportunity to be a part of the 30 owners. Make any sense?

If I do not get an opportunity to replace the current Detroit Pistons owner, all is not lost. The top 26 winners of the D-League affiliate leauges will automatically have a spot in the elite 30 next year. The other 4 spots will be awarded to the top 4 GMs from this year's elite 30.

If I've confused the hell outta you I apologize. lol.

I'll be updating the forum as I pursue my dream to be World Champion. Wish me luck. :)

Wow, this fantasy stuff really is getting serious these days. What about prize money? I've heard of kids in japan making money off playing video games as a full time job, so what about fantasy bball?

Good luck Mo.

yeah, good luck!! you'll be the amir johnson of fantasy basketball

There are a lot of professional gamers in this world Web. With endorsements, their own branded goods etc.

I can't seem to track down what the winner gets. So far it looks like they get inducted into the first NBA.Com Fantasy Basketball Hall of Fame. I'll let you know when I find out more info.

I'm happy you will be focusing a league that you actually have a chance winning. It was really pointless for you to invest much time into competing with me. :)

and me!

ok. I just wanted to jump on the 'bust on motown' bandwagon

I'm happy you will be focusing a league that you actually have a chance winning. It was really pointless for you to invest much time into competing with me. :)

I'm sure our league could use a water boy. Interested? :)

and me!

ok. I just wanted to jump on the 'bust on motown' bandwagon

Oddly enough, I'm probably more excited about Trial League. :)

Me too Motown. I am looking forward to the start of it all.

Wow, this fantasy stuff really is getting serious these days. What about prize money? I've heard of kids in japan making money off playing video games as a full time job, so what about fantasy bball?

in Korea they don't have traditional sports. starcraft is like the national sport, and the best players not only make tons of money, they're treated like hollywood celebrities are treated in america.

in the US, there is 'professional gaming' to some degree, but very few can make a living off of it, and even then they're not making much. to see an example of what i mean visit GotFrag eSports - Competitive Gaming News, Features, Movies, Content and Community (http://www.gotfrag.com) - that's a site i work for (and check out the part i made w/statistics @ GotFrag eSports - GameSense 2 Beta - Home (http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/stats/))

not to hijack the thread...just giving a sidenote to webz :O

Wow congrats Mo. But you just made the bullseye on your back even bigger. Someone who is good enough to be 1 phone call away from the premier league should have no problem with our lowly Trial League.

Wow congrats Mo. But you just made the bullseye on your back even bigger. Someone who is good enough to be 1 phone call away from the premier league should have no problem with our lowly Trial League.

I don't win all of the time, just most of the time. ..and trust me, I'm just as worried about the competition here as I am in the Premier League. There are so many factors that go into winning a fantasy bball league. That said, you should still be prepared to get a whippin'. I am determined to be PF.com champ. :)

Me too Motown. I am looking forward to the start of it all.

Everyone is excited now. That will change a couple of weeks in when everyone realizes how far behind ME they are. :winner_first_h4h:
:king:<-------Linwood
:hail:<------Everyone Else

more like:
:crutch: <----Linwood
:violin: <-----Everyone else.

Okay here is an update.

We are entering the final two rounds of the email draft that has lasted almost two weeks. To call this an exercise in patience would be an understatement. Essentially each team, which can be anywhere in the world was given 10 hours to make a draft pick. Noticing that little progress was being made, a little over a week ago they changed the time to 5 hours. So far I think I've done pretty well.

Here are my picks:

ROUND PICK PLAYER POS
1 5 Dirk Nowitzki PF
2 8 Michael Redd GF
3 5 Carmelo Anthony SF
4 8 Antawn Jamison F
5 5 Mike James PG
6 8 T.J. Ford PG
7 5 Chris Wilcox FC
8 8 Zach Randolph PF
9 5 Wally Szczerbiak GF
10 8 David West PF
11 5 Damon Stoudamire PG
12 8 Eddy Curry C

I'm hoping to finish off with Steve Francis and perhaps Kendrick Perkins if he is stilll available.

A fellow Perkins fan? Darth Tater gets down on my boy and favors Dampier but that KP fella got me some nice numbers for a 12th or 13th round pick.

A fellow Perkins fan? Darth Tater gets down on my boy and favors Dampier but that KP fella got me some nice numbers for a 12th or 13th round pick.

Absolutely. His rebounds and blocked shots are nothing to snooze at! I had him on my team last year as well.

Here's an update:

Eastern Division W L T GB WAIVER
Sioux Falls Skyforce 11 5 0 -- 8
Fort Worth Flyers 9 7 0 2 9
Dakota Wizards 9 7 0 2 10
Austin Toros 8 7 1 2 11
Arkansas RimRockers 8 7 1 2 12
Tulsa 66ers 7 9 0 4 7

Western Division W L T GB WAIVER
Anaheim Arsenal 10 6 0 -- 5
Albuquerque T-birds 8 8 0 2 6
Los Angeles D-Fenders 7 9 0 3 1
Colorado 14ers 7 9 0 3 3
Bakersfield Jam 7 9 0 3 4
Idaho Stampede 4 12 0 6 2

The formatting is screwy...but as you can see I'm (Sioux Falls) in first place after two weeks!!!!!

Tied for first place and playing the other division leader this week. I'm currently up 6-2. If I win this league, I am automatically invited into the big league next year where I can actually make some money.

If only my PF.com leagues worked out this well. Currently, I am in five leagues. I am in first place in all of them with the exception of the two PF.com leagues. Kudos to you fellas for playing at such a high level!

Made it to the championship! If I win this matchup I make it to the big boy league next year where I battle against 26 of the best GMs in the world! Based on last weeks stats I am the favorite. Wish me luck!

You are the man. Good luck big guy!

That's awesome! Good luck man.

If things are looking bad mid week, I recommend Darth Tater's Signature Rent-A-Player Strategy!:pound:

That's awesome! Good luck man.

If things are looking bad mid week, I recommend Darth Tater's Signature Rent-A-Player Strategy!:pound:

LOL. Seriously, I was reading some good banter today going on in Yahoo over that. (you click on home page and you click the message board link by your team name to get there...it was in the hockey one). Well, some of the people posting were idiots, but still some interesting thoughts on the matter came up.

One side calls it lame and cheating.

The other side calls it common sense & strategy.

I think it's like you said in another thread, if we want to prevent the rent a player (streaming) and last minute trades and other stuff we need to implement maximum move limits and trading deadlines.

I don't care either way.:) I honestly see both sides of the debate. No matter what we decide I'll figure a way to bring it on home! :first:

Anyhow, congratulations to Mo for making it big time.:thumb[1]:

That's awesome! Good luck man.

If things are looking bad mid week, I recommend Darth Tater's Signature Rent-A-Player Strategy!:pound:

I would, but I can't. We are only allowed to change lineups weekly so I have to pray for good health.

Oh, and thanks Jammer, DBA and Tater. I appreciate the support. :thumb[1]:

I'm very proud of you Motown. And I hope you are letting all of those guys know that you sharpen your fantasy skills at pistonsforum.com... :)

I'm very proud of you Motown. And I hope you are letting all of those guys know that you sharpen your fantasy skills at pistonsforum.com... :)

No doubt. lol.

I can hear it now. As you are whupping up on those guys, start tossing out names from here.

You're good, but you got nothing on FD.

#1 would wipe the table with your behind.

LA Dre eats guys like you for lunch.

Griffin invented fantasy basketball.

webz wouldn't touch that free agent with a ten foot pole.

LOL. Seriously, I was reading some good banter today going on in Yahoo over that. (you click on home page and you click the message board link by your team name to get there...it was in the hockey one). Well, some of the people posting were idiots, but still some interesting thoughts on the matter came up.

One side calls it lame and cheating.

The other side calls it common sense & strategy.

I think it's like you said in another thread, if we want to prevent the rent a player (streaming) and last minute trades and other stuff we need to implement maximum move limits and trading deadlines.

I don't care either way.:) I honestly see both sides of the debate. No matter what we decide I'll figure a way to bring it on home! :first:

Anyhow, congratulations to Mo for making it big time.:thumb[1]:

I don't particularly like it (mostly because it's too much work!), but it isn't cheating or lame. If the rules allow it, it's fair game. It's strategy to me and you executed it to perfection. Nothing wrong with that my good man!:thumb:

Champion!!!!!!!!!!!

I am the Detroit Pistons NBA.Com Developmental League Champion!

Next year I face 29 of the best GMs in the world! Let's Rock!!!!!!!!!

congratulations

Nice work Motown. Now if only you could beat us you would be a real champion.

:stirthepot:

Nice work Motown. Now if only you could beat us you would be a real champion.

:stirthepot:


I have an Open League Title on the books. Recognize, bro!

Congrats Motown. I am very proud of you as always.

Congrats Motown. I am very proud of you as always.

Thanks my brotha' from anotha motha'.

Nice work Mo. Looks like all those PM's to me for advice have paid off!

Champion!!!!!!!!!!!

I am the Detroit Pistons NBA.Com Developmental League Champion!

Next year I face 29 of the best GMs in the world! Let's Rock!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations, wish I could have gotten in that.

Nice work Mo. Looks like all those PM's to me for advice have paid off!

uuuhhhh...right. lol. :)

uuuhhhh...right. lol. :)

So let me get this straight...you are one of the best so WHEN I knock you off next year I also get your place in the premier championship right?:eyebrows:

Mo, let be the last to congratulate you on winning this one too:MusicBigGrin:

So let me get this straight...you are one of the best so WHEN I knock you off next year I also get your place in the premier championship right?:eyebrows:

Helllllll to the no. (You won't beat me and even if you did, noway I give up my spot) lol.

Draft for the Premier League starts on Oct. 15th.

Check NBA.Com to watch PF.com's resident fantasy guy take on the Fantasy B-ball giants across the world.

So far, we've had to select a team (out of the 30) and a franchise player from that team. The rating of the franchise player you selected determines your order in the the draft. GMs that selected a lower rated franchise player get a higher draft pick. I selected...The Detroit Pistons! My franchise player is Chauncey Billups. I attempted to land a Kobe/Laker type combo but by the time I was able to select they were all taken. Thought it was for the best anyway because I didn't want to play against our boys. If anyone from PF.com is following the league throughout the season and feels compelled to offer some advice, I definitely welcome it. All info on the league will be visible to the masses just like last year.

Wish me luck!

Good luck! I'll keep an eye out.

P.S. Win now.

Good luck, I'll check in to see how you're going!

Billups is a PG which is a good start. But it looks like some people went for strategy and selected not so good players to get a higher draft pick. Still, I think you've made a good choice to pick a known quantity with your franchise player.

Who are you looking at with your #20 pick?

Good luck, I'll check in to see how you're going!

Billups is a PG which is a good start. But it looks like some people went for strategy and selected not so good players to get a higher draft pick. Still, I think you've made a good choice to pick a known quantity with your franchise player.

Who are you looking at with your #20 pick?

Still doing some draft anlalysis. I'll PM you what I'm thinking. I don't want to risk any of the opposing GMs doing a search and finding out my trade secrets. :)

Hmm...

So the Commissioner failed to mention that the draft would be a flat draft versus round robin. That would have definitely affected my selection of franchise player. I would have went for a sleeper pick to get a higher pick versus the best player on the team selected. Looks like I'm stuck with the 20th selection every round now. Do you think I have a legitimate gripe?

Hmm...

So the Commissioner failed to mention that the draft would be a flat draft versus round robin. That would have definitely affected my selection of franchise player. I would have went for a sleeper pick to get a higher pick versus the best player on the team selected. Looks like I'm stuck with the 20th selection every round now. Do you think I have a legitimate gripe?
Absolutely. Getting stuck with the 20th pick in each round is a pretty big price to pay to have CB. I love him and all, but that's a bit too big of a price to pay IMO.

Absolutely. Getting stuck with the 20th pick in each round is a pretty big price to pay to have CB. I love him and all, but that's a bit too big of a price to pay IMO.

I asked the commish about it and he said that they drafted like that in the league last year so I should have known. lol. The D-League that I won was done in round robin fashion. I think they should have pointed out the difference or restated the rules verbatim from last year. They didn't even have the old rules posted on NBA.com. Oh well, nothing like a lil' controversy to start the season.

lame-ness. so its not a snaking order?

lame-ness. so its not a snaking order?

Nope. Can't see how that is fair. I asked the Commish how the GMs faired last year that had the top draft selections in the draft. He admitted that the GM in the first draft slot won the entire league but he isn't sold that draft positioning affected outcome that much. To which I answered....yeah, okay.

Nope. Can't see how that is fair. I asked the Commish how the GMs faired last year that had the top draft selections in the draft. He admitted that the GM in the first draft slot won the entire league but he isn't sold that draft positioning affected outcome that much. To which I answered....yeah, okay.

the guy is a tool. i reckon if you had your chance again you could have got someone like maxiell and got 2nd or 3rd pick. which would have been sweet.

the guy is a tool. i reckon if you had your chance again you could have got someone like maxiell and got 2nd or 3rd pick. which would have been sweet.

Exactly.

We can trade draft picks though so I need to figure out how I can use that to my advantage.

Use coercion and strong arm tactics. Usually works for me. ;) :D

So here's an update.

I ended up drafting pretty well and cashing in on some sleeper picks.

My current team really lacks a power forward, but my guard/small forward combination is sick! Here it is!

Chauncey Billups
Manu Ginobili
Kelenna Azubuike
Joe Johnson
Mikki Moore
Eddy Curry
Damien Wilkins
Kendrick Perkins

In a league with 30 teams, that's not too bad.

In the Week 2 standings I am currently sitting in the 1st place slot of my division.

CENTRAL
Detroit Pistons (me) ~ 11-4-1
Chicago Bulls ~ 6-10-0
Indiana Pacers ~ 5-11-0
Cleveland Cavs ~ 5-11-0
Milwaukee Bucks ~ 3-12-1

There are 4 other teams with a better record in the league but only by a game or two.

Not bad, considering I didn't know the rules fully prior to the franchise player selection.

This week we play Chicago. Hopefully I can stretch this lead out more.

MOOOOOtown BASKETball!!

MOOOOOtown BASKETball!!

lol. Thanks, bro! :)

Check me out!

NBA.com: Premier Fantasy Championship II (http://www.nba.com/fantasy/features/pfcII_home.html)

http://ufc2.nba.com/basketball/pfc/league_overview.asp

I'm the Pistons!

Nice job so far Mo. Keep up the good work! :)

Pulled off a major trade last week that is paying dividends for me now.

Traded C. Billups (Detroit) and K. Perkins (Boston) for

M. Ellis and S. Jackson (from Golden St.)

My new team is:

PG - M. Ellis (Golden St.)
SG - M. Ginobili (San Antonio)
SF - D. Wilkins (Seattle)
PF - S. Jackson (Golden St.)
C - E. Curry (Chicago)
Util - J. Johnson (Atlanta)
Bench - K. Akuizabe (Golden St.)
Bench - M. Moore (Sacramento)

Currently, I'm still in first place in my division with the second best record in the league. However, this week I play a team with a pretty good record as well. New York leads their division. Should be a close one.

Since you can only set your lineups up once a week, I need to determine which is a better play.

Ginobili for 2 games
or
Akuizabe(sp?) for 3 games
or
M. Moore for 5 games

The critical cats I need to win are 3 pointers, Steals and FG%.

Dude, you I reckon you should try and trade Curry off your team. He doesn't contribute in anything other than points and FG%. He doesn't even grab 6 boards a game, he has pretty high TO's for a big man and his AST, STL & BLK numbers combined is a paltry 1.5! You might be able to swindle someone based on his name and points production.

I think your trade was pretty good. However owning 3 GSW players can be pretty nerve-wracking considering how Nellie likes to mess with his lineups constantly.

I'd probably go with Ginobili even though its only 2 games. With Duncan being out his production should increase, while Azubuike is a bit of a gamble right now. Moore isn't much chop despite playing 5 games.

Good luck bro!

Dude, you I reckon you should try and trade Curry off your team. He doesn't contribute in anything other than points and FG%. He doesn't even grab 6 boards a game, he has pretty high TO's for a big man and his AST, STL & BLK numbers combined is a paltry 1.5! You might be able to swindle someone based on his name and points production.

I think your trade was pretty good. However owning 3 GSW players can be pretty nerve-wracking considering how Nellie likes to mess with his lineups constantly.

I'd probably go with Ginobili even though its only 2 games. With Duncan being out his production should increase, while Azubuike is a bit of a gamble right now. Moore isn't much chop despite playing 5 games.

Good luck bro!

Yeah, Curry has slown down a bit. His value is not as low in our league as in Yahoo because turnovers are not factored in. Its a 8 cat league. I've already conceded the blocks category so he really is only killin' me with inconsistent rebounding and FT%.

The waiver wire is very thin so there's not much I can grab. (which explains why Mikki Moore is still on my roster) I've been actively searching for an Azubuike, Curry taker but it hasn't happened yet.

On the trade, it was definitely a sell high for Billups. I feel fairly confident that Ellis's and Jackson's place in the lineup is secure.

Oh yeah, I opted to play Ginobili based on the same criteria you mentioned. (I guess great minds think a like) Thanks for the feedback webz. Its appreciated. :)

Just pulled off a trade.

Moved Curry and Azubuike for Okur and D. Stevenson.

Now my starting lineup looks like this:

PG - M. Ellis
SG - J. Johnson
SF - D. Wilkins
PF - S. Jackson
C - M. Okur
Util - M. Ginobili

Bench - M. Moore
Bench - D. Stevenson

Not bad considering my starting lineup at the beginning of the season was:

PG - Billups
SG - J. Johnson
SF - Azubuike
PF - M. Moore
C - E. Curry
Util - M. Ginobili

Bench - K. Perkins
Bench - D. Wilkins

I'd have to say that you got the better end of that deal for sure.

That's a great trade Motown. Now you just have to hope Okur stays healthy. Stevenson has been stepping up with Arenas out as well. Good job. :thumb:

Just been checking out this league you're in Motown. First in your division, doing well. Looks like you have this weeks matchup in the bag against another division leader. Way to go!

Did you recently trade Joe Johnson for Turkoglu? I reckon thats a pretty good trade, the only downside I see is that Orlando's schedule of games during the fantasy playoffs is pretty brutal. Do you have a trade deadline in this league?

I'll have to see about applying for the D-League next year. I think you put in a good word for me too considering you've never beaten me in a head-to-head matchup. haha.

Just been checking out this league you're in Motown. First in your division, doing well. Looks like you have this weeks matchup in the bag against another division leader. Way to go!

Did you recently trade Joe Johnson for Turkoglu? I reckon thats a pretty good trade, the only downside I see is that Orlando's schedule of games during the fantasy playoffs is pretty brutal. Do you have a trade deadline in this league?

I'll have to see about applying for the D-League next year. I think you put in a good word for me too considering you've never beaten me in a head-to-head matchup. haha.

Ha.... lol.

Thanks for following my squad, bro! The trade deadline passed last week... The primary reason for the trade was to give myself more flexibility with my lineup given that I had so many SGs on my team. I also get a boost in FG% and 3's (slightly). Not to mention, I was expecting a drop in assists from Johnson due to the Bibby trade. The schedule difference is a bit of a concern, but I think that my team is so stacked compared to my competition that the differential will be neglible. Considering we have so much offensive guard-oriented heat, its remarkable that we've lingered around the 50% FG mark for three weeks straight. Having checked the stats, there is noone in the league able to beat us at this point. We are just praying for good health in the playoffs. I'm also "banking" on the fact that Marcus Banks will evolve into a more prominent role in Miami come playoff time. It will give me a nice secret weapon along with Stevenson from the bench. Thaddeus Young was a great wire pickup for me as well.

My lineup for the playoff run:

PG - M. Ellis
SG - M. Ginobili
SF - H. Turkoglu
PF - S. Jackson
C - M. Okur
Util - T. Young

Bench - M. Banks
Bench - D. Stevenson


Not sure what the D-League entry requirements are anymore. I will definitely shoot you a recommendation if its possible. ...right after I finally whip your butt this week! :)

I'd have to say that you got the better end of that deal for sure.

Been kinda out of it lately. I apologize for the late reply. Thanks for the support Jammer!

Finished with the league's top record. Number one seed in the playoffs.

Wish me luck!

Way ta go Mo! :thumb:

16 playoff spots?

Way ta go Mo! :thumb:

16 playoff spots?

Yep. Just like the NBA...

Thanks!!!!

Only higher seed to make it to round 2 in the playoffs off the strength of a 10-10 night from the free throw line courtesy of Manu.

Just a couple more weeks to the promised land...

So, just in case I didn't tell you guys....

I ended up losing in the semis. My team literally did not show up to play. So is the risk when playing the fantasy b-ball playoffs at the end of the regular season. As a semi-finalist, I did however qualify for NBA.com Premier Championship III! I am deemed a "Legend" this time around and will be playing against a brand new group of managers (minus the other 3 managers from last year's final four)

This year they have a couple new rules, but most remain the same:

Going Head-to-Head (Most Fantasy Points is a Win) this season. Reason for that is simple: Ties. No one wants to lose because of a tie-breaker, especially in the playoffs. The scoring is the same as the standard scoring format for UFC leagues as well as the one used on NBA Stock Exchange.

Points Scored 0.5
Total Rebounds 1.5
Assists 2
Steals 3
Blocked Shots 3
Turnovers -2
Field Goals Made .54
Free Throws Made .25
3 Pointers Made 1
Field Goals Missed -.46
Free Throws Missed -.75

Roster will be:
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
UTL
BENCH
BENCH

The draft will not be snake. The draft order will be the same each round. Draft order is determined by each manager choosing a team and a franchise player. Those managers who choose lower ranked players will receive a higher draft spot.

So to me the strategy is simple. Attempt to get a strong sleeper pick so that you can pick high each round. Player rankings have already been determined (using rotowire's current draft kit).

I'd love to get some suggestions from you guys.

Since I am a legend, I luckily get 3rd pick (for team selection).

So which team would you select and who would you make your franchise player?

I don't understand picking teams.

I don't understand picking teams.

Oh, okay I will explain.

In this league, there is a manager for each actual NBA Team meaning that 30 managers compete together in the same league. Team selection order is based on performance from the previous year. The top 4 from last year get to pick their teams first. The new managers who were selected based on winning their respective D-Leagues last year, then pick. Their team selection order is based on winning percentage from the previous year.

When you select your team, you then need to chose a franchise player. That franchise player must play on the actual team you selected in real life in order to be eligible.

Here is an example:

Based on my record from last year (3rd Place), I get to pick my NBA team 3rd.

(1)Cleveland - Franchise (Lebron James)
(2)Boston - Franchise (Rajon Rondo)
(3)
I pick the Detroit Pistons.
I then choose Rasheed Wallace as my franchise player.

Based on the picks.

Cleveland, Boston and Detroit can no longer be selected
The draft order throughout the entire draft will be Boston, Detroit and then Cleveland based on our franchise player's rating
There are no restrictions to eligible players after the first round has been completed (franchise player round)Does that make sense?

Do you get to see player rankings before you choose your franchise player?

I think the best way to do it would be pick the team last. Get yourself together 10 or so sleepers who you think are likely to break out, do some research, see where they are ranked, then when you have picked your super sleeper the team choice takes care of itself.

I'd go with Amir as your franchise player...he should put you at the top of the draft :MusicBigGrin:

Do you get to see player rankings before you choose your franchise player?

I think the best way to do it would be pick the team last. Get yourself together 10 or so sleepers who you think are likely to break out, do some research, see where they are ranked, then when you have picked your super sleeper the team choice takes care of itself.

Exactly! That's the strategy I'm taking. The listing has already been posted so I'm checking them all out now. If you're interested I can send you the excel spreadsheet. I'm soliciting all the feedback I can.

Amir Johnson is barely on the list so he would be an instant high pick but I'm looking for a player with a much better upside. A player that will be sharing time with multiple players is not a good look. I need to predict a starter. Someone who could turn to a Monte Ellis or somethin'.

Exactly! That's the strategy I'm taking. The listing has already been posted so I'm checking them all out now. If you're interested I can send you the excel spreadsheet. I'm soliciting all the feedback I can.

Amir Johnson is barely on the list so he would be an instant high pick but I'm looking for a player with a much better upside. A player that will be sharing time with multiple players is not a good look. I need to predict a starter. Someone who could turn to a Monte Ellis or somethin'.

I wouldn't pick Amir. It maybe doesn't have to be a deep sleeper. Guys who are coming into good situations this year as well. ie.

Time-share guys now with the job to themselves - Jose Calderon comes to mind.

Guys behind injury-plagued guys on the depth chart - Spencer Hawes maybe? Brad Miller can't stay healthy...

It all depends on how they are ranked.

I haven't started doing any research for basketball yet, but yeah, send through the spreadsheet, I'd be interested to see who you are looking at.